Errlectric Concentration Station

CrazyDiamond

HAL is a StarChild
Is the regular ti nail worth it if you already have the herb nail?imnot using the Quartz as much as I used to and. I'm wondering if I should go with the ti. Thoughts ?
My thoughts on this are if it were me and I had the herbnail (which I do) I would not get the Ti nail...why, the herbnail is already a Ti nail on top, just drop into the little cup and enjoy vadab!

Ya I said it, vadab, from the darkside, to vape and dab at the same time, from the whatevah, lol, to bring the herb to it's vaporization point using an Errlectric Concentration Station and herbnail, whilst simultaneously using the essence of herb, in an oil/wax/shatter suspension which is dropped into the top receptacle and will be at a slightly higher temperature due to the direct heating of the Ti, drawn through the vaporizing material, through an individual's cooling mechanism of choice, and into the lungs.

....And yes I just did a couple of them, lol
 

Dr. Plutonious

Well-Known Member
Any idea what piece you want to see it in action on? I have several and will make a new vid. :)

Anything that can qualify as a big hitting piece really. I'd just like to see some more examples of it in action. It's a really cool idea and I'm always looking out for big hitting vapes.

Have you had any combustion problems with it?
 

NickDlow

Log Hog
Anything that can qualify as a big hitting piece really. I'd just like to see some more examples of it in action. It's a really cool idea and I'm always looking out for big hitting vapes.

Have you had any combustion problems with it?

The beautiful thing is u can make it hard hitting or make a session out of it. It's all in the temp control! I've vaped on 850 for thick CONVECTION clouds. That's the difference between this and the sub IMO. I've never used the sub but it looks like it's all SS or whatever metal. I'm no expert but I'd say there is a lot of conduction happening.

As far as combustion, NEVER! I've gotten my abv on the brink many times but it's easy to see how dark your bud is getting. I got a little flake on the rim of the chamber where the nail sits and combusted that lol. That happened once or twice to me. Just make sure it's clean and you're good to go.

Also the vortex carb cap gives some extra punch also with the herb.
 

jm78622

New Member
I got a great suggestion for glass - thanks. Is there a forum retailer I should buy from? Cannisour doesnt look like they have what I need in stock, and would want to chat with someone to make sure I get an adapter if needed. Got the errlectric fqn and herb nail
 

Chandlerson

Well-Known Member
Rocking the FQN on this glorious day ,just took my first dab of some tasty blue dream .before the dab ---:)
After dab----:whoa::D:rofl:
Turning the temp up today ,more testing is needed:science:
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polvoman

Active Member
For those with the herb-nail, can you give any comparisons to how it is compared to, lets say an EVO or a Sublimator?

There are very limited videos of it in action. The one video I found looked pretty good for white walling.


You found my video :) Apologies for the quality, getting the hang of it slowly!

Ive found that the Herb Nail like all pure convection vapes takes a while to get going, that vid was taken on the second pull at around 720 and to be honest I normally go lower now as the vapour output is ridiculous on higher settings.

Kind of reminds me of my LSV but doesn't lose the flavour after the first hit. Also use way less, literally a dusting over the screen and you'll get 3 monster clouds.

Compared to a Sub (which I love btw) I find the Herb Nail slightly more ergonomic and slightly better on taste. Has the exact same knockout effect though :)

Think I have said it before but it was the flavour that really blew me away and Im comparing this to the Evo.
 

Dr. Plutonious

Well-Known Member
You found my video :) Apologies for the quality, getting the hang of it slowly!

Ive found that the Herb Nail like all pure convection vapes takes a while to get going, that vid was taken on the second pull at around 720 and to be honest I normally go lower now as the vapour output is ridiculous on higher settings.

Kind of reminds me of my LSV but doesn't lose the flavour after the first hit. Also use way less, literally a dusting over the screen and you'll get 3 monster clouds.

Compared to a Sub (which I love btw) I find the Herb Nail slightly more ergonomic and slightly better on taste. Has the exact same knockout effect though :)

Think I have said it before but it was the flavour that really blew me away and Im comparing this to the Evo.

The flavour on the EVO is tough to beat.

If you don't mind me asking, how would you compare it to the EVO overall? I own the EVO, was one of the IndieGoGo supporters and thus far, I haven't found anything that I prefer over it. Though, this gives it some competition IMO.

I'd love to know more! Frankly, I love the design of it.

Also, your vid is fine! You are literally the only person with a proper video on YouTube that shows this thing in action. It's because of your video that I have interest in this vape!
 
The flavour on the EVO is tough to beat.

If you don't mind me asking, how would you compare it to the EVO overall? I own the EVO, was one of the IndieGoGo supporters and thus far, I haven't found anything that I prefer over it. Though, this gives it some competition IMO.

I'd love to know more! Frankly, I love the design of it.

Also, your vid is fine! You are literally the only person with a proper video on YouTube that shows this thing in action. It's because of your video that I have interest in this vape!
@Dr. Plutonious, You and I are in the same boat!!! I'm 0.2 seconds away from ordering this setup!! I'm an EVO snob as well. I'm honestly only considering this
because my wife has ditched flowers and taken to dabs exclusively. I still use flowers daily. She wants the EVO for dabs, I want it for flowers. So I'm thinking I'll buy her a dedicated dab rig. So now I'm debating on another EVO or this Beast!
 

DieHard

Accessory supplier
Accessory Maker
@Dr. Plutonious, You and I are in the same boat!!! I'm 0.2 seconds away from ordering this setup!! I'm an EVO snob as well. I'm honestly only considering this
because my wife has ditched flowers and taken to dabs exclusively. I still use flowers daily. She wants the EVO for dabs, I want it for flowers. So I'm thinking I'll buy her a dedicated dab rig. So now I'm debating on another EVO or this Beast!
Seems like the opposite of my situation. I would like an Evo but I'm seriously contemplating a second Errlectric unit because I have all three nail/coils. Me and the Mrs. Can never agree on which one to run at any given time.
 

Chandlerson

Well-Known Member
@Dr. Plutonious, You and I are in the same boat!!! I'm 0.2 seconds away from ordering this setup!! I'm an EVO snob as well. I'm honestly only considering this
because my wife has ditched flowers and taken to dabs exclusively. I still use flowers daily. She wants the EVO for dabs, I want it for flowers. So I'm thinking I'll buy her a dedicated dab rig. So now I'm debating on another EVO or this Beast!
In my humble opinion I would go with the errlectric.ive had the evo and this into blows it out of the water and straight into space. You could get the herb nail and either the ti or the Quartz for dabs ,a win win in my book :lol:
 

polvoman

Active Member
The flavour on the EVO is tough to beat.

If you don't mind me asking, how would you compare it to the EVO overall? I own the EVO, was one of the IndieGoGo supporters and thus far, I haven't found anything that I prefer over it. Though, this gives it some competition IMO.

I'd love to know more! Frankly, I love the design of it.

Also, your vid is fine! You are literally the only person with a proper video on YouTube that shows this thing in action. It's because of your video that I have interest in this vape!

Thanks for the kind words :)

Ok, first things first is that I love my Evo and have been in love with it since it launched in the UK at the beginning of the year.

Its always been my go to "start of the evening till bedtime" vape but the only problem I have with it is that imo I don't really rate the Vxnail set up for low temp dabs.

If im going to be consuming flowers and concentrates both in the same evening (and recently that's been the case more than ever :ko:) then I personally prefer the Herb Nail set up.

I tend to hit my Evo hard (have the 240v version that only whistles if you really hammer it, me no sipper!) and as the Herb Nail encourages you to have the same mentality I get the same lung busting clouds that I do with the Evo whilst being able to dab imo more efficiently, the Carb Cap is simply one of the best designed.

That said if you prefer smaller slower draws then the Evo would be more suitable over the Herb Nail. If anything the Herb Nail encourages you to go harder/faster than the Evo and could be too much of an intense experience for some.

For my needs as a heavy hitter vape and low temp dabs I now use the Errlectric more and would keep it over my Evo if forced to choose. That said I still think the Evo is the king when just looking at solely from a flower vape perspective.

I don't think its fair to compare the ergonomics of the two but needless to say you know what your getting yourself in to with the herbnail, a few times I've stupidly left the heater on the glass herb nail attached and have been so lucky it hasn't cracked (which is true testament to the thickness and durability of the glass herb nail itself) but the operation menu (I think some dude was complaining about it a few pages back which with respect I don't agree with) is easy to navigate.

I also got the firmware upgrade, the cleaning feature is brilliant.

Hope that helps :)
 

Chandlerson

Well-Known Member
It's hard to compare the evo and errlectric flower wise. I would agree the evo is easier to sip .
If anyone here also has a mighty I HIGHLY suggest putting a small dab on the stainless steel pad and putting that in the herb nail true convection dabs. I never liked the vxnails for the evo because you never really got those nice low temp dabs. Putting a pad in the herb nail changes all that. Crank the heat up and wait for flavor town !so tasty And so efficient. Seriously where is this mobile enail that's the only lacking feature I see
 

Dr. Plutonious

Well-Known Member
@Dr. Plutonious, You and I are in the same boat!!! I'm 0.2 seconds away from ordering this setup!! I'm an EVO snob as well. I'm honestly only considering this
because my wife has ditched flowers and taken to dabs exclusively. I still use flowers daily. She wants the EVO for dabs, I want it for flowers. So I'm thinking I'll buy her a dedicated dab rig. So now I'm debating on another EVO or this Beast!

I find myself in the same boat sometimes, especially when I'm with friends. Some wanna dab, others want flowers, and it's a headache to be switching between them on the EVO. Temp switches, glass switches, etc. Not only that I've always preferred the nail setup for dabbing personally.



Thanks for the kind words :)

Ok, first things first is that I love my Evo and have been in love with it since it launched in the UK at the beginning of the year.

Its always been my go to "start of the evening till bedtime" vape but the only problem I have with it is that imo I don't really rate the Vxnail set up for low temp dabs.

If im going to be consuming flowers and concentrates both in the same evening (and recently that's been the case more than ever :ko:) then I personally prefer the Herb Nail set up.

I tend to hit my Evo hard (have the 240v version that only whistles if you really hammer it, me no sipper!) and as the Herb Nail encourages you to have the same mentality I get the same lung busting clouds that I do with the Evo whilst being able to dab imo more efficiently, the Carb Cap is simply one of the best designed.

That said if you prefer smaller slower draws then the Evo would be more suitable over the Herb Nail. If anything the Herb Nail encourages you to go harder/faster than the Evo and could be too much of an intense experience for some.

For my needs as a heavy hitter vape and low temp dabs I now use the Errlectric more and would keep it over my Evo if forced to choose. That said I still think the Evo is the king when just looking at solely from a flower vape perspective.

I don't think its fair to compare the ergonomics of the two but needless to say you know what your getting yourself in to with the herbnail, a few times I've stupidly left the heater on the glass herb nail attached and have been so lucky it hasn't cracked (which is true testament to the thickness and durability of the glass herb nail itself) but the operation menu (I think some dude was complaining about it a few pages back which with respect I don't agree with) is easy to navigate.

I also got the firmware upgrade, the cleaning feature is brilliant.

Hope that helps :)

That helps a ton!

It makes me believe that if I pick one of these up, I'll probably get it with the intent to use it for oil primarily. I'm kinda with you that the Vapexnail is not the best on lower temps. I find it gets my unit much dirtier. In fact, it's the reason why I had to leave it in Canada for the time being when I moved back to the States...way to dirty to clean on the time frame I had.

Either way, this looks like a unit I really wanna put some firsthand experience on.
 
In my humble opinion I would go with the errlectric.ive had the evo and this into blows it out of the water and straight into space. You could get the herb nail and either the ti or the Quartz for dabs ,a win win in my book :lol:
I'm still gonna get an EEERLL ,but this statement i can't go for because there were so many underwhelmed EVO users. No disrespect intended, but you'd have to have my EVO, or a variation of it, for that statement to hold merit to me. The EVO is not the same. This isn't the thread for this, but I'll say I've had 3 or 4 versions of the EVO( not cloud, the EVO) and this one just simply put, it just doesn't play! Word on the street is, this EVO dropped out of Elementary School because it found out they had recess!
 

Chandlerson

Well-Known Member
I'm still gonna get an EEERLL ,but this statement i can't go for because there were so many underwhelmed EVO users. No disrespect intended, but you'd have to have my EVO, or a variation of it, for that statement to hold merit to me. The EVO is not the same. This isn't the thread for this, but I'll say I've had 3 or 4 versions of the EVO( not cloud, the EVO) and this one just simply put, it just doesn't play! Word on the street is, this EVO dropped out of Elementary School because it found out they had recess!
Maybe I was one of the underwhelmed. Ihad to send in my evo twice and it still wasn't close to the performance I had with my OG ticker. Back on topic, a question for anyone who has the case for the Errlectric. Is there enough room for two nails ?i desperately need to get one. I take my unit back and for between my girlfriends place and mine. Right now I'm stuffing them in a lsv bag but that's temporarily for sure. I'm a little ocd and just thinking about all the tangled parts makes me cringe. Any insight would be most appreciated.
Can't believe this thread isn't blowing up yet ,it's only a matter of time :party:
 

DieHard

Accessory supplier
Accessory Maker
Maybe I was one of the underwhelmed. Ihad to send in my evo twice and it still wasn't close to the performance I had with my OG ticker. Back on topic, a question for anyone who has the case for the Errlectric. Is there enough room for two nails ?i desperately need to get one. I take my unit back and for between my girlfriends place and mine. Right now I'm stuffing them in a lsv bag but that's temporarily for sure. I'm a little ocd and just thinking about all the tangled parts makes me cringe. Any insight would be most appreciated.
Can't believe this thread isn't blowing up yet ,it's only a matter of time :party:
You can get 2 in there. There are 2 in mine at any given time. It's tight though.
 

Chandlerson

Well-Known Member
You can get 2 in there. There are 2 in mine at any given time. It's tight though.
But manageable ? Any room after that for herb nail or FQN? I'm wondering if it might be better to buy another larger case or stick with the official one.
Have you preordered the Quartz cap/dabber? Once I get the funds it's on!


Don't want to double post so I'll type it here.
Is anyone else's herb nail not fit well on the bowl ?it doesn't help that my herb bowl has a few small chips on the rim ,for the life of me I cantget the nail to stay on there. Which is a big problem because I'd rather not worry about a piece of metal heated up hundreds of degrees falling on me or something else. A few odd times it actually got stuck ontop and I had to wait for it to cool down before I could get it unstuck.
 

NickDlow

Log Hog
Maybe I was one of the underwhelmed. Ihad to send in my evo twice and it still wasn't close to the performance I had with my OG ticker. Back on topic, a question for anyone who has the case for the Errlectric. Is there enough room for two nails ?i desperately need to get one. I take my unit back and for between my girlfriends place and mine. Right now I'm stuffing them in a lsv bag but that's temporarily for sure. I'm a little ocd and just thinking about all the tangled parts makes me cringe. Any insight would be most appreciated.
Can't believe this thread isn't blowing up yet ,it's only a matter of time :party:

There is definitely enough room in their case.

I picked up a bigger case off amazon. I cut out my own spots for the Errlectric its accessories and a bubbler. It's perfect.
 

polvoman

Active Member
But manageable ? Any room after that for herb nail or FQN? I'm wondering if it might be better to buy another larger case or stick with the official one.
Have you preordered the Quartz cap/dabber? Once I get the funds it's on!


Don't want to double post so I'll type it here.
Is anyone else's herb nail not fit well on the bowl ?it doesn't help that my herb bowl has a few small chips on the rim ,for the life of me I cant get the nail to stay on there. Which is a big problem because I'd rather not worry about a piece of metal heated up hundreds of degrees falling on me or something else. A few odd times it actually got stuck on top and I had to wait for it to cool down before I could get it unstuck.

my heater becomes more unstable on the herb nail when there is reclaim pooled at the bottom of the heater, think it may slightly affect alignment, has this been happening from the start?

Since cleaning the bottom of the heater using the cleaning function and a Ti brush I find it fits like it did at the beginning. :p

I did share some of your concerns but haven't had any serious scares, even when the heater has been sitting in the herb nail at a jaunty angle it feels like it would still need quite a bit of force to come loose, also noticed that function doesn't seem to be affected but all this said, I get where your coming from dude.
 

NickDlow

Log Hog
Mine fits like a glove. Always level with a perfect tight seal. Even with a chip in the chamber. If it gets too tight once it gets hot, that's thermal expansion. Not much u can do about that besides taking another hit to cool it off so u can remove the heater. Never once has my heater fell off my chamber. :2c:
 

Chandlerson

Well-Known Member
Well damn nick. Mine is not like that at all. You have some chips on yours as well ?
Hmm..when I place the heater on the herb bowl I want to make sure it's secure but I don't want to break the glass if you know what I mean. Ill experiment the next time I dab off the herb nail since I'm out of flower:ugh:
 
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