Easy Vape V2
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stinkmeaner
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I am glad you like it and I that is what really matters but I will tell you that my local head shop has these things and he says people try to return them all the time when they start burning your herbs or crap out on them all together, this thing when picked up in had feels as cheap as a toy. I highly doubt that temperature is accurate, other members comment that the original Easy Vape will sometimes burn the product at very low temperatures so I would take that temperature reading with a grain of salt.Ideasite said:
I wish you found this forum earlier and looked around at competing models before your purchase and most on this board would have given you some different advice, that vaporizer is made in China where it is then branded and wholesaled, so that warranty of five years may mean nothing if there is not a real brick and mortar business standing behind it.
For just a little more you could have purchased a HerbalAire which is built like a little tank for as low as $149 on Ebay or even and Extreme Q for $160, both get excellent reviews and work great, I have used both but have a HerbalAire and it even rivals my Volcano on quality and is more efficient. Both of these models are assembled in Canada and have companies that stand behind their products so if anything were to happen then you could easily get it serviced inside North America. Good luck with your new vaporizer and welcome to the forum.
You're right. I got all excited and jumped at the first model I saw that seemed to do both whip and bag. And if they work at all, who's going to write a negative review?
Thanks for the suggestion on the HerbalAire. I looked at the extreme Q, but decided to save the difference. If I run into any problems, I'll definitely have a look at those 2 options, along with the other great advice on this board.
The way I figured it, even if I made a mistake buying it, at least I could offer a review, since there don't seem to be many on this model.
Thanks for the great advice!
Thanks for the suggestion on the HerbalAire. I looked at the extreme Q, but decided to save the difference. If I run into any problems, I'll definitely have a look at those 2 options, along with the other great advice on this board.
The way I figured it, even if I made a mistake buying it, at least I could offer a review, since there don't seem to be many on this model.
Thanks for the great advice!
jeffp
psychonaut/retired
good choice. for those starting out or on a tight budget i'd look for used vapes here in the "general" section - there's a "sticky" on top thread called "sell your vape or accessories."max said:Hey, it's not 12-22 yet. Don't rush Xmas. I have more shopping to do.
You get an A+ for your decision. DBV is hard to beat for the $.
Now that I've had time to see the unit in operation, I have some more information that I thought I would post.
One the the most noticeable things is that the set point and control point, presumably the side-by-side green and red numeric displays, don't seem to display actual temperature.
When you power the unit on, both displays show exactly 200 degrees. After adjusting the set point to, say, 275 and hitting the set button, the temperature reading immediately and steadily starts climbing from 200 degrees exactly to exactly your setting. It never starts out any lower and never goes any higher.
I even tried turning off the unit while it was hot and then back on and it still starts out at exactly 200 degrees. I think it would be a simple matter to write a program that would do this with a delay and skip the actual temperature reading altogether. I actually doubt that this unit even has a temperature sensor.
I get the best results with relatively low settings - 250 to 275 degrees, compared to other units that friends have shown me. At 300 is does seem to slightly brown the surface of the herbs, appearing like a singed spot.
It seems to me that the unit does have good temperature control because even 10 degree adjustments affect performance and results, but there is no way that this thing is actually displaying a sensed temperature. It if was, the temperature would probably fluctuate by at least a degree or two while air is traveling through it. It's just thermodynamically impossible to hold a control point that precisely.
If that's the case, they've done a pretty crafty job of making something look really fancy while holding down the cost.
I'm bummed about it, but it still is a good performer. A setting of 275 on one day performs precisely like that setting on other days. High marks for consistent control.
But it sure seems like someone had an idea to simulate the temperature reading, rather than actually implement an actual sensor and temperature display. If this is the case, I'm feeling short changed.
Perhaps if some of the other manufacturers might let me try their units. Then I would take this unit apart and find out if there is a sensor or not and report back. Sound like a deal? (I hope, I hope...)
One the the most noticeable things is that the set point and control point, presumably the side-by-side green and red numeric displays, don't seem to display actual temperature.
When you power the unit on, both displays show exactly 200 degrees. After adjusting the set point to, say, 275 and hitting the set button, the temperature reading immediately and steadily starts climbing from 200 degrees exactly to exactly your setting. It never starts out any lower and never goes any higher.
I even tried turning off the unit while it was hot and then back on and it still starts out at exactly 200 degrees. I think it would be a simple matter to write a program that would do this with a delay and skip the actual temperature reading altogether. I actually doubt that this unit even has a temperature sensor.
I get the best results with relatively low settings - 250 to 275 degrees, compared to other units that friends have shown me. At 300 is does seem to slightly brown the surface of the herbs, appearing like a singed spot.
It seems to me that the unit does have good temperature control because even 10 degree adjustments affect performance and results, but there is no way that this thing is actually displaying a sensed temperature. It if was, the temperature would probably fluctuate by at least a degree or two while air is traveling through it. It's just thermodynamically impossible to hold a control point that precisely.
If that's the case, they've done a pretty crafty job of making something look really fancy while holding down the cost.
I'm bummed about it, but it still is a good performer. A setting of 275 on one day performs precisely like that setting on other days. High marks for consistent control.
But it sure seems like someone had an idea to simulate the temperature reading, rather than actually implement an actual sensor and temperature display. If this is the case, I'm feeling short changed.
Perhaps if some of the other manufacturers might let me try their units. Then I would take this unit apart and find out if there is a sensor or not and report back. Sound like a deal? (I hope, I hope...)
Is it showing C or F temperature?
i don't know what their temp control algorithm might be, but yeah, it's possible to hold the control point precisely -- if you get the right gain values for the PID algorithm. The Bud Toaster is doing pretty well, and i'm using somewhat arbitrary values -- no problem compensating for air flow of any volume.
It's F.
Even PID controls have to start out at ambient temperature. When I first power the unit on, it should probably display something closer to 70 F and not exactly 200 F every time. That's just not possible.
Yet every time I power it on, it's magically at 200 F exactly and going up at exactly 1 degree per second from there.
It would be pretty simple to write a software program to do that and that would be a lot easier than actually using a sensor and calibrating a PID loop. It's also lots cheaper to manufacture.
My point is that the display on this unit pretends that it is actually sensing and operating a PID control of the heating element, but it seems to have only a fixed, digital output signal that linearly changes the element temperature.
It works pretty well - like I said, it's repeatability is quite good. I just think it might be a little disingenuous to design it to look like something it clearly is not. I don't think they make any claims about sensing accuracy or PID control so I don't think they've misrepresented anything.
I just think that any potential customers need to know that the temperature display is really just for looks. It does make an accurate warmup timer. You wait 1 second per degree and if I use it while it's warming up, that length of time is pretty dead on the money.
Still really satisfied with it for the price! I would suggest that the manufacturer modify the fake temperature display to start out at 70F every time instead of 200 F. I might still have figured it out, but I would have been blissfully ignorant for longer.
And isn't it all about the duration of the buzz?
Even PID controls have to start out at ambient temperature. When I first power the unit on, it should probably display something closer to 70 F and not exactly 200 F every time. That's just not possible.
Yet every time I power it on, it's magically at 200 F exactly and going up at exactly 1 degree per second from there.
It would be pretty simple to write a software program to do that and that would be a lot easier than actually using a sensor and calibrating a PID loop. It's also lots cheaper to manufacture.
My point is that the display on this unit pretends that it is actually sensing and operating a PID control of the heating element, but it seems to have only a fixed, digital output signal that linearly changes the element temperature.
It works pretty well - like I said, it's repeatability is quite good. I just think it might be a little disingenuous to design it to look like something it clearly is not. I don't think they make any claims about sensing accuracy or PID control so I don't think they've misrepresented anything.
I just think that any potential customers need to know that the temperature display is really just for looks. It does make an accurate warmup timer. You wait 1 second per degree and if I use it while it's warming up, that length of time is pretty dead on the money.
Still really satisfied with it for the price! I would suggest that the manufacturer modify the fake temperature display to start out at 70F every time instead of 200 F. I might still have figured it out, but I would have been blissfully ignorant for longer.
And isn't it all about the duration of the buzz?
Yes, it is for me anyway.
well, 250F is too low to create much vapor in the Bud Toaster ... i need to see 390F in the bud vial to get the vapor flowing.
Did you mention the color of the vapor poop after a session?
Maybe rather than temperature, it is showing the duty cycle of the PWM, and starts at 200 (perhaps 20% of full range) and ramps up the setting that has been selected.
Maybe you could verify the temperature if you have a kitchen or BBQ thermometer.
well, 250F is too low to create much vapor in the Bud Toaster ... i need to see 390F in the bud vial to get the vapor flowing.
Did you mention the color of the vapor poop after a session?
Maybe rather than temperature, it is showing the duty cycle of the PWM, and starts at 200 (perhaps 20% of full range) and ramps up the setting that has been selected.
Maybe you could verify the temperature if you have a kitchen or BBQ thermometer.
Cappella Sistina
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I have contact info for the importer, and plant they are made at.
Having a particular problem?
Anypoe currently using the Easy Vape 2; What color is your heating element? Any chance it's blue?
Having a particular problem?
Anypoe currently using the Easy Vape 2; What color is your heating element? Any chance it's blue?
sierratrout
Well-Known Member
im a newbie to this board. i just signed up to tell everyone DONT BUY ONE OF THESE. no idont work for the company or any competitor. im just a ole guy who smokes alot of 'product'
i have a vb, and a easy vape. they both work way better than the v2, at least for the whip. when you draw, because of the fan, it seems like the carb is open. in other words, too much air is drawn along with the vapor.
takes way to long to heat up, at low temps (i vape at 150 or so) it doesnt work..... needs to be around 300 or so.
the bag, ok, the head unit is a piece of poo. cheap construction. there is a chamber as well as a screened bowl. the chamber is a joke, its so small you couldnt even get a .1 of a gram. the dam thing leaks at the seals and chamber. what a piece of s**t.
yeah dont buy this piece of crap. oh i paid 129.00 delivered. bought it off ebay, and im trying to get my money back. dont know what to buy next?
dino
i have a vb, and a easy vape. they both work way better than the v2, at least for the whip. when you draw, because of the fan, it seems like the carb is open. in other words, too much air is drawn along with the vapor.
takes way to long to heat up, at low temps (i vape at 150 or so) it doesnt work..... needs to be around 300 or so.
the bag, ok, the head unit is a piece of poo. cheap construction. there is a chamber as well as a screened bowl. the chamber is a joke, its so small you couldnt even get a .1 of a gram. the dam thing leaks at the seals and chamber. what a piece of s**t.
yeah dont buy this piece of crap. oh i paid 129.00 delivered. bought it off ebay, and im trying to get my money back. dont know what to buy next?
dino
NeverAlone
Member
Santa brought me a new vape last December 25 and I couldn't be more pleased. Anyone whose concerned
about how well the V2 is constructed you can put your worries to rest, it's a very well made vaporizer. If
you forget to turn it off the V2 will turn its self off after an hour. It's very easy to use, whether you prefer
the balloon method or the whip. I use the whip and at first I had to try different temperature settings until
I found the correct setting for me, 307 degrees. Don't use the fan setting at high or if you do be careful
because the material can catch fire!!! Personally I Love this vaporizer and would not hesitate to recommend it
to anyone looking for a good vape. Oh, before I forget, I started using this as soon as I got it, after a
couple of weeks I tried my ol pipe just to compare the 2 methods of comsuming, I couldn't even taste
the weed with the pipe, I'll never go back to smoking again, and it's true, the vape pays for itself because
of vaping the weed several times over again. As far as vapes go the EZ VAPE V2 Gets a grade of A as far
as I'm concerned.
Kindest Regards,
NeverAlone
about how well the V2 is constructed you can put your worries to rest, it's a very well made vaporizer. If
you forget to turn it off the V2 will turn its self off after an hour. It's very easy to use, whether you prefer
the balloon method or the whip. I use the whip and at first I had to try different temperature settings until
I found the correct setting for me, 307 degrees. Don't use the fan setting at high or if you do be careful
because the material can catch fire!!! Personally I Love this vaporizer and would not hesitate to recommend it
to anyone looking for a good vape. Oh, before I forget, I started using this as soon as I got it, after a
couple of weeks I tried my ol pipe just to compare the 2 methods of comsuming, I couldn't even taste
the weed with the pipe, I'll never go back to smoking again, and it's true, the vape pays for itself because
of vaping the weed several times over again. As far as vapes go the EZ VAPE V2 Gets a grade of A as far
as I'm concerned.
Kindest Regards,
NeverAlone
Ideasite said:
That's a pretty close description of what this piece of trickery does. I bought one of these for way too much money ($215) from Wild Side Smoke Shop in Manchester, NH. If you pay more than $75 for this you're getting fleeced. I connected it to a ammeter and watched how it works. It's not a thermostat, it's just a digitally-controlled potentiometer. When you set the "temperature setting" to some number between 200 and 400 you are actually setting the current through the heater. "200 degrees" actually means 18 watts and "400 degrees" is 28 watts. The "temperature" display is just a counter that counts up or down to the new setting. So, the real temperature depends on how long the heater has been on and how much air is moving through it. If it sits there without the blower running, it's going to get real hot no matter what the setting is. Maybe by putting the ground-glass whip fitting on it (without the hose) and sticking a candy thermometer in that you can determine approximately what temperature of the air coming out of it is.
It's clear to me now that the vape business is just as predatory as the rest of the drug trade. Only when drugs are legalized will we be able to use consumer protection laws against these charlatans. A nice side effect will be that you and I will stop funding the slaughter of innocents in Mexico and lately Belize. The down side will be that instead we'll be paying too much to Aventis and Merck for the herb and to Phillips or G.E. for the vapes.
GeekyGodiva
Happy Hairy Herbal Faerie
A friend just acquired the vaporizer model seen in this listing. He had gotten it second hand from a friend who said it required too much in the bowl to make it work. Last night he had me over to teach him and his loved ones how to vape with it. I, myself, learned on a Silver Surfer, and had never used an Easy Vape, but it was easy. We kept the temperature under the 350*f mark.
I told them that the ground glass on glass connection would hold it in place pretty well, but to always disconnect when they pass the whip and to clear the hose with fresh air like a bong or carbed pipe. Also to stir the product frequently and to avoid scorching and combustion, how to clean the screens and ideas on how to incorporate their favorite water tools. I told them about varying their draw rate to affect the temperature, how the temperature affects the flavor, and the benefits of an even grind over mortar and pestle chunks and powder.
I told them that it won't feel like smoking and that they should vape a bit, wait a while and then gauge their effect levels and how much more they need or not. I suggested they experiment to see how little they can vape and be satisfied, which would help them avoid the minimum bowl size issue their friend had. What other information should I give them. Would you say I gave them a fair introduction?
I loaned them my grinder and am sure to hear more about their experiences. I am so excited that they enjoy their vaporizer and to see what health improvements they may enjoy (one has bronchial trouble, frequently). It would be really cool if they decide to fuck combustion because of this entirely functional vape.
I told them that the ground glass on glass connection would hold it in place pretty well, but to always disconnect when they pass the whip and to clear the hose with fresh air like a bong or carbed pipe. Also to stir the product frequently and to avoid scorching and combustion, how to clean the screens and ideas on how to incorporate their favorite water tools. I told them about varying their draw rate to affect the temperature, how the temperature affects the flavor, and the benefits of an even grind over mortar and pestle chunks and powder.
I told them that it won't feel like smoking and that they should vape a bit, wait a while and then gauge their effect levels and how much more they need or not. I suggested they experiment to see how little they can vape and be satisfied, which would help them avoid the minimum bowl size issue their friend had. What other information should I give them. Would you say I gave them a fair introduction?
I loaned them my grinder and am sure to hear more about their experiences. I am so excited that they enjoy their vaporizer and to see what health improvements they may enjoy (one has bronchial trouble, frequently). It would be really cool if they decide to fuck combustion because of this entirely functional vape.
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SD_haze
Well-Known Member
Sounds like a good introduction.
If you've used the SSV and didn't have troubles with their EasyVape V2, then that's a good sign.
There's been reports of the easyvape of essentally having zero temperature control. The digital readout simply means how quickly it heats up, but there was no control that stopped the heating. It would get hotter and hotter until eventually you combust.
Dunno if they got a unit with that same design, but that's the only extra warning I would give to the user.
"The readout is simply a reference point, relative to the amount of time the heater has been on"
johnnyblaze805
Certified Dankologist
Easy vape digital v5 my 1st vape & it works like a champ at 370 and I'm very happy with it.. I paid 60 for the vape anything more then your getting ripped off imho, and i paid 16 for the new whip cuz the one it comes with sucks, it has a huge bowl and puts the herbs really close to the heating element. I like it but I'm buying a Buddha soon. I would never pay 200 for a easy vape but for 50-60$ you won't be disappointedSleepingdrag0n
New Member
The v2 is not a bad vape just have to find your temp and get a screen to put on the herb in original whip. For 65 it's a great starter vape lol cause the valcano should make you a sandwich after every bag for 750 
They know it's to high
They know it's to high
GeekyGodiva
Happy Hairy Herbal Faerie
My friend's vape has a tendancy to keep climbing in heat. I've used it thrice with him and every time all people involved ended up in a coughing fit. I was hoping we could try it at lower and lower heat settings, but it doesn't seem to make much difference. I have since changed my mind on the vaporizer itself. It functions briefly, but I personally don't know how to alter my draw technique to fix it, by the third draw it is just too damn hot.
Sleepingdrag0n
New Member
I remove whip between draws for best hits. The temp is not in f or c i watch the bars 2 yellow bars is a good temp to try but all might be different
Having just picked up a V5, I can agree - it is certainly applying a current (PWM or digi-pot, I don't know or care, though I would do PWM), so yes, as Geeky said, you'd expect it to get hotter without constant airflow.
I guess I should start a general thread about the topic since it's obviously not just me seeing this.
I guess I should start a general thread about the topic since it's obviously not just me seeing this.