Dreamwood Glow

wisausnk

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I suspect that with your kind of use it doesn't change much indeed. But I am used to take at least 5-6 hits of a bowl even microdosed starting at low temps, finishing near cobustion. I start with 2 or three long draws at small temps that give huge "thc potent" clouds for exemple. This would be more difficult with power mode. Anyway, every device and user is different, I'll try it first when I'll get it and than give my feedback.
100% agree I'm more the two fast hits done guy, but on a hike or walk with the dog I like to carry the long wood stem with bigger bowl and than I start with 41W and work my way up, I was a mighty user before and used like you started with 185 and worked my way up. But I got used to get the same results with the glow just adjusting the draw speed and wattage.
 

deadlytoaster

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Does the 14mm do well with small-med groups or is the 18mm best for it? Trying to see if it's with the increased carry size for 18mm or not.
 
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Does the 14mm do well with small-med groups or is the 18mm best for it? Trying to see if it's with the increased carry size for 18mm or not.

Carry size is minimal bigger but not really much the most part of the portability is the boxmod. With small-med groups do you mean a small group of ppl? To use the glow as a session vape ?
 

deadlytoaster

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Yeah as a session for bubbler rips and such with 3-4 people. Im sure with med-low tolerances a full chamber can get 2-3 pretty lifted on an 18mm stem?
 
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kukuruz

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Oh man, to weeks into the Glow game and still so excited about this little fellow. There's so many things to play with, coils, TC, firmwares, mods...

Now I can definitely say that this is the vaporizer that fits my use patterns the best. The vapor quality is outstanding, maintenance is minimal and once I found my settings it is perfect for me.

The cooling mouthpiece makes a big difference and collects a lot of gooey stuff :ko:

I built another set of coils yesterday, 8.5 wraps 24 gauge Ss316. The two came out .27 ohm resistance which I locked down in my Aegis Legend mod. Took a TCR of 215 as suggested in the imp thread and good to go. Nice, little tasty clouds at 190°C and big rips without scorching at 230.

Vape on! :wave:
 

Dreamwood

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Hey guys,
Thank you for your great feedback!

Used with woodmouthpiece the herb chamber size GLOW RCV 14 = 14x8mm
and herb chamber size GLOW RCV 18= 12x10mm. big bowl custom made stem for the 18 is 14x10-20mm.


With the glass mouthpiece the chambers are smaller.
but if you put a ~16mm screen at the bottom of the 18mm groundglass you get a big bowl.
Its a bit difficult to get the screen in position, i know but if its in position it stays there.
And i know that the small rimmless screens are not the best solution for the glass stems of the GLOW RCV 18.
We need to let produce fitting dome screens for the 18mm groundglass because the ones available do not fit in the quality duran shot parts we use... we are also looking to get deeper dome screens then the reg ones, we will see.

I need to get this software to try the tc mode but i generaly dislike ss316 coils atm because they are not safe for heating to this high temps... but you guys seem to enjoy it...does the ss coils not degrade too fast?

>>> And a little tip if you use the 14 with the glass stems, put a bit of the "woodwax" on the o-ring so the glass slides in easy!!

>>> Wax and polish the wood parts regulary to kerp the wood in good condition!!

love you guys!
peace
 

kukuruz

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Hey guys,
Thank you for your great feedback!

Used with woodmouthpiece the herb chamber size GLOW RCV 14 = 14x8mm
and herb chamber size GLOW RCV 18= 12x10mm. big bowl custom made stem for the 18 is 14x10-20mm.


With the glass mouthpiece the chambers are smaller.
but if you put a ~16mm screen at the bottom of the 18mm groundglass you get a big bowl.
Its a bit difficult to get the screen in position, i know but if its in position it stays there.
And i know that the small rimmless screens are not the best solution for the glass stems of the GLOW RCV 18.
We need to let produce fitting dome screens for the 18mm groundglass because the ones available do not fit in the quality duran shot parts we use... we are also looking to get deeper dome screens then the reg ones, we will see.

I need to get this software to try the tc mode but i generaly dislike ss316 coils atm because they are not safe for heating to this high temps... but you guys seem to enjoy it...does the ss coils not degrade too fast?

>>> And a little tip if you use the 14 with the glass stems, put a bit of the "woodwax" on the o-ring so the glass slides in easy!!

>>> Wax and polish the wood parts regulary to kerp the wood in good condition!!

love you guys!
peace

I am aware of your concerns regarding SS coils and honestly I am a bit worried about it too. In my current setup, which I described above, the SS coils start to visibly glow when temperature is set to 230°C. At this temp I get big rips already with a lot of vapor. At 220 I see no glowing and the hits are more like from the Mighty at 210°C.

BTW, found another nice thing yesterday. The Aegis Legend has a VPC mode, where you can set the wattage for the first five seconds of the draw in five steps. Tried it with the SS coil and wattage set to: 50-49-45-44-43W and it was really great! I like the boost at the beginning.

Vape on! :wave:

edit: typo
 

wisausnk

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I am aware of your concerns regarding SS coils and honestly I am a bit worried about it too. In my current setup, which I described above, the SS coils start to visibly glow when temperature is set to 230°C. At this temp I get big rips already with a lot of vapor. At 220 I see no glowing and the hits are more like from the Mighty at 210°C.

BTW, found another nice thing yesterday. The Aegis Legend has a VPC mode, where you can set the wattage for the first five seconds of the draw in five steps. Tried it with the SS coil and wattage set to: 50-49-45-44-43W and it was really great! I like the boost at the beginning.

Vape on! :wave:

edit: typo
Nice have to look up the Aegis legend
 
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Sativapo

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Maybe with fatter wire ( smaller gauge) it takes more heat to glow. Most mods are designed to heat Ss coils at 300 + degrees C.with liquid it doesn't glow though... In the ecig world people are more worried about kanthal.
 
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deadlytoaster

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The dosing capsule sizes for the Fierce, Fury 2, and S&B are as follows:

Fierce dosing capsule dimensions: 12.5mm x 11.5mm
Fury 2 dosing capsule dimensions: 11 x 10mm
S&B dosing capsule dimensions: 14.5 x 8mm

@Dreamwood are your measurements for the chamber sizes L*W? I'm thinking of pulling the trigger but want the convenience of being able to use either of the three in the stem/chamber. Could you guesstimate if these will work?
 
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Dreamwood

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hey.

@Daprezz everyone is free to use what ever wire or coil he/she likes too, its easy to change.
We choose this coils because they will last a long time and fit the needs of most users.
I dont know why you assume ecig people are worried about kanthal never heard about that. I only use ready made kanthal coils in my ecigs because the taste is 1000x better imho.
With SS i always get a metallic taste. But like i said, if someone dislikes it, changing the coils takes 2 minutes.

And its as you said...stainless wire is good to use with liquid for cooling... but not without.

Thicker wire takes more energy to heat and you need more preheat before you hit the vape, but then you get a full extraction in ~2 hits. Or you enjoy the terpy hits till the herb is heated up to vape temp.
If you start to inhale when you push the button on the mod the coil has no time to heat up and gets cooled down directly.

@deadlytoaster measurements are diameter x depth


peace n love
 

Sativapo

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@Dreamwood I respect your view. It's nice to have the choice and the ability to try both. I will try both with mine when I get it. To be more precise it was a tendancy to prefer ss among purist rebuildable ecig people. It is also the tendancy for other 510 vaporizers. But you have an interesting different approach of it that I respect.
 

paehtod

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The fury2 capsule can fit in the glow 14 mp
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add a video for the vapor production of the capsule
 
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Sativapo

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The fury2 capsule can fit in the glow 14 mp
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add a video for the vapor production of the capsule
Is it possible to turn the capsule mid session to vape it more even ? Is it easy to finish/completely darken the plant in it without opening for stirring ?
 
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paehtod

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Is it possible to turn the capsule mid session to vape it more even ? Is it easy to finish/completely darken the plant in it without opening for stirring ?

Yes you can turn the capsule in mid session but its not necessary, here is the abv photo after 5 hit 8 seconds draw at 42W, no turn no stir.
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its not that dark color like vapcap's but I would consider it is consumed, and if you put it in vapcap for 1 more session and push it to the edge, it can be more dark color but very less vapor can be produced and with bad taste.
 
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wisausnk

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Yes you can turn the capsule in mid session but its not necessary, here is the abv photo after 5 hit 8 seconds draw at 42W, no turn no stir.
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its not that dark color like vapcap's but I would consider it is consumed, and if you put it in vapcap for 1 more session and push it to the edge, it can be more dark color but very less vapor can be produced and with bad taste.

Nice have to order this caps soon, that ose the only thing i missed now im happy af.

A video of two shots and status of the ABV with the Glow18 and another video of the size comparison with the Milaana2



Thx for the Vid nice work sir ^^
 

Sativapo

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Got my custom grenadil limited RCV14 beauty yesterday and she's a beast. I don't post no pics yet because my lousy cell wouldn't do justice to the wonderfull Dalberia Melanoxylon ( blackwood).
Very effective and even extraction in the cover chamber. It gets really hot but I guess my wismec has a temp protection.
@kukuruz your tcr settings work fine and seems accurate except my clapton coils are glowing around 200°C. I'll put back the kanthal coils for the moment and order maybe 20 gauge SS wire to see if it glows at higher temp.

@wisausnk The stock coils work indeed very well in wattage mode.

@Dreamwood thanks for all the goodies !

I am having a hard time setting firmly the screen and/or reducing the chamber in the glass stems. If anybody has any tips or tricks...
 
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wisausnk

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Got my custom grenadil limited RCV14 beauty yesterday and she's a beast. I don't post no pics yet because my lousy cell wouldn't do justice to the wonderfull Dalberia Melanoxylon ( blackwood).
Very effective and even extraction in the cover chamber. It gets really hot but I guess my wismec has a temp protection.
@kukuruz your tcr settings work fine and seems accurate except my clapton coils are glowing around 200°C. I'll put back the kanthal coils for the moment and order maybe 20 gauge SS wire to see if it glows at higher temp.

@wisausnk The stock coils work indeed very well in wattage mode.

@Dreamwood thanks for all the goodies !

I am having a hard time setting firmly the screen and/or reducing the chamber in the glass stems. If anybody has any tips or tricks...

For the glass stem you can bend the dome screen a little bit and make it bigger so it does stay in place on the bottom side. But to be honest I think the 14mm glass stem holds filled fully about 0.1 0.15 at max so it should still be microdosing

 
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Sativapo

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Yes I kind of did that but compared to the cover chamber it is deeper and narrower so it needs some stirring and when I stirr a bit deeper to move up the fresh plant stuck on the screen I move the screen that bends on the side because the bottom of the stem chamber is not flat. have to take the plant off replace and refill etc. I'll get the hand of it but maybe some screen mod or some different more flat bottom cup screens would be nice.
 

wisausnk

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Yes I kind of did that but compared to the cover chamber it is deeper and narrower so it needs some stirring and when I stirr a bit deeper to move up the fresh plant stuck on the screen I move the screen that bends on the side because the bottom of the stem chamber is not flat. have to take the plant off replace and refill etc. I'll get the hand of it but maybe some screen mod or some different more flat bottom cup screens would be nice.

The 18 would have been better for that because it fits dome screens:



The 14 with glass works also without stirring but you need to experiment with the coils I made bigger coils @0.35 ohm that are directly over the air holes of the base. But with that you need 50-54W and have to look out not to overheat the wood. If you like I send you a pic how it looks
 
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Sativapo

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I think I made almost the same coils as you with my clapton. 0.27 with 6 clapton turns over each airhole 4-pack. And it works indeed when getting hotter. Its just that I like to vape really fully from light and tasty to just before combustion and get even dark brown ABV. So some stirring is needed. As @Dreamwood suggested me I'll let some reclaim build to keep the screen in position. But I think I will be a more wood mouthpiece guy with this one. The cover chamber works terrific with 0.1 and I'm waiting for the fury 2 capsules to use with my purple heart spare mouthpiece!
 
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wisausnk

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I think I made almost the same coils as you with my clapton. 0.27 with 6 clapton turns over each airhole 4-pack. And it works indeed when getting hotter. Its just that I like to vape really fully from light and tasty to just before combustion and get even dark brown ABV. So some stirring is needed. As @Dreamwood suggested me I'll let some reclaim build ti keep the screen in position. But I think I will be a more wood mouthpiece guy with this one. The cover chamber works terrific with 0.1 and I'm waiting for the fury 2 capsules to use with my purple heart spare mouthpiece!

Yeah that's the best choice for the 14, I use my 14 also 99% with the wood mouthpiece. The 18 is the way to go for glass and bong use ..
 
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Ok I put the stock coils back and had very good results in wattage mod with the glass stem. I don't know yet if it is my technique getting better ( drawing very slowly and accelerating when I feel the first vapor) the coils or watt mode but I didn't have problems with the screen as I packed very loose with easier and less stirring. With this technique and setup the glass stem screen being more far isn't a problem.
I combusted a bit getting back in watt mode but when I found the technique huge tasty clouds very very fast. In fact the drawspeed plays a bigger role than the watts. I can combust at 40 watts if I draw very very slowly for too long and not combust drawing fast at 50-52 watts. The moment of the watt heating curve you chose to draw slow or fast also plays a role. With this drawspeed heat control in watt mode I mostly use full open airflow now.
I will try ss and tc again but only to search for the graal of non glowing setup.
I love my grenadil special rcv14 the grenadil or blackwood feels very strong and durable and hits hard getting very hot. Being dense and heavy it behaves almost like metal after it gave some sap in the beginning while seasonning with the heat. The oring of the mouthpiece isolates it enough not to burn the lips. The purpleheart of my spare mouthpiece feels more heat isolating. I guess the wood essence must influence the overall vape signature on this one especially with the wood chamber use. Maybe one day I'll try another wood too.
D@@@ this sativa makes me write too much:leaf::leaf::leaf:
Out and about I go incognito with my black-ish e-cig:cool: :
 
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