DMT Vaporization

[Jambi619]

Would using the ascent oil jars work possibly? I never use that thing and need a reason to justify its existence.

 

[CarolKing]

Would using the ascent oil jars work possibly? I never use that thing and need a reason to justify its existence.

It doesn't work for wax or oils. Why would it work for anything else? I don't know anything about DMT. I just know the oil jars are absolutely worthless. Sorry I couldn't resist complaining.

 

[Jambi619]

Lol I hear ya. I've tried Using glass flowers, using the jar as a spacer for small loads, but I really don't like that vape. It really sucks too cause it looks awesome and I had high hopes.

What I gleaned from reading this thread earlier is dmt melts then boils so when you're trying to vape it you have to worry about it running into your device. The jars seem like a good way to contain runny material and the temp only needs to be like 350 F so it should be able to do that no problem.

Edit: if I acquire some, which should be soon, I'll test it out. It'll be my excuse to get over my apprehension

 

[CG420]

Where are these toads located? Man, I think about how Mario was for me growing up and now I get it. You hit the golden box and if you think outside of it, the mushroom is key to opening that vision. And when you get the Flower power it's basically fire bud you know? You just hand it out and it puts them out. But I'm not sure what the star does but I assume it's a sign that we could teleport. It lets mario run through everything. Hence, invincible for a short amount of time/distance. As for the mushroom making you 1 up, it literally is like how shrooms are sometimes, you feel like you've died and a brand new bigger you see bigger visions of things. I think it makes sense playing those 2D games back in the days. It was like a sublimal message behind the fun factors.

 

[Seek]

The red mushroom is mario is based on Amanita muscaria, particularly on one of its possible effects called "Alice in wonderlands syndrome", when proportions of the world or person get magnified.
I think that's all and there aren't any referrences to actual psilocybin mushrooms in Mario.

Where are these toads located?

I don't see any discussion about toads around here. It seems offtopic as there is no dmt in toads or your post contents.

 

[215z]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorado_River_toad

The toads you speak of live in the Sonoran Desert. It stretches from Baja to Arizona.

 

[Seek]

There's 5-meo-dmt, which is very different from dmt and ten times more potent. Dmt is in plants.

 

[Buildozer]

5-MEO can also be found in plants IIRC..

....I don't see any discussion about toads around here. It seems offtopic as there is no dmt in toads or your post contents.

I mentioned the Toads briefly a little while back.. Maybe that's why it was mentioned recently.. I think its on the previous page towards the end..

 

[caphector]

I picked up a Flowermate Pro as a possible unit to use with DMT; has anyone tried this specific vape? Was pondering putting the material on a thick bed of steel wool to prevent it running down inside the vape.

 

[Snappo]

Is there a way to enjoyably dose DMT so that it isn't MIND BLOWING, but rather, just mind altering in a moderate way that a noobe might tolerate better? I don't want to freak...

 

[zymos]

Smaller dose. Though I haven't found that very pleasant the couple of times I tried - mostly just got some physical effects.

 

[grokit]

I'm okay with mind-blowing, from what I understand the mind is only blown until the song on the radio is over with dmt. I would love to try it, mescaline and peyote sometime. I have done lsd, psilocybin, and a bit of ayahuasca in my past, some say that explains some things about me which I consider a compliment.

 

[Seek]

VapeXnail appears to be working ok at about 9 oclock.

 

[treeman]

^^ Nice one seek, what kind of dose are you doing on the nails? Does it stink up your cloud?

I find 20-30mg just gives me the awe-inspiring colour-changing cartoon world incredibleness, people being made out of lego bricks, alien disco vibe without the whole dissociative forgetting I've taken a drug madness I sometimes get at higher doses.
However consuming small doses of DMT when you've taken other tryptamines (mushrooms, 4-ho-met, 4-aco-dmt etc etc) is FUCKING AMAZING. If I could show the world a video of some of the shit I've seen everyone would be doing it.

I still love the vapor genie knockoff for my elf spice. Nice and smooth, no sore lungs or struggling to breathe. Combustion can truly get to fuck.

 

[Seek]

I've just tried a small dose to test that delivery method and the temp needed.
So far every sub-breakthrough has been so intense that I am sttill preparing myself - for years - before I finally get the courage for a full enter.
Anyway the vapexnail has worked at least as well as the other best method I've known - making enhaned leaf and vaping it normally with the EVO in an ELB.
The nail is simplier to prepare, makes less mess, the effect is at least as strong, maybe event stronger, and the taste was very good, no burnt taste at all.
It was just about 12mg and I could faintly see many levels of that familiar sub-breakthrough kaleidoscope rotating within higher dimensional kaleidoscope rotating within higher dimensional kaleidoscope etc...

And yes, I think vaping small doses of dmt on longer acting psychedelics, or maois could make it more manageable. Everyone says it and it makes sense. It's that speed from sober to OOBE what makes vaped DMT so intense and shocking. If the start was not sober or prolonged one could dive into the experience much more easily and actually remain calm and collected once there.

 

[Joel W.]

I felt like Dewey Cox reading this thread thinking "do I got to get me some of that?"

 

[Frederick McGuire]

 

[tepictoton]

I would also be interested in hearing more of this compound used in a flowermate pro...a good match?

 

[HomeFree]

vapor genie is the way to go. I have also used an 'oil burner' to good effect, however many or most people do not like the 'oil burners' for the magic stuff. I haven't done it for a REALLY long time, but what I used to do was start a session with maybe 10 mgs, do it, wait a half hour, load up 15 mgs, hit it, wait another 30 minutes, go for 20 mgs, wait another 30 minutes and go for 25. For me, after 20-30 minutes, tolerance is gone.

So I think to not get blown away a traditional vape might be a good choice, at a low temp, but that stuff likes to run away from heat like crazy, even can defy gravity. Though you could definitely just use less, or take a puff every couple of minutes, tolerance will take care of getting blown away a bit.

I found it makes a great insomnia medicine as well, once it wears off, and a few times I have dozed off before coming back to baseline.

 

[Seek]

vapor genie is the way to go.

That is a favourite method for many, especially because it delivers well at low price. But I prefer desktops as you can pull on them slower or faster and still get it extracted with no burning. When the effect is setting in it's ofter hard to even determine if you are breathing in or out, the two just mix up and start feeling somewaht simultaneous or merged, so controlling the speed of your pull at the end could get very tricky.

...but what I used to do was start a session with maybe 10 mgs, do it, wait a half hour, load up 15 mgs, hit it, wait another 30 minutes, go for 20 mgs, wait another 30 minutes and go for 25. For me, after 20-30 minutes, tolerance is gone.

I've never experienced any tolerance with this. Well, it's difficult to test as it's not addictive. But small doses can often make you want to repeat with more.
I remeber once doing like 5 small doses in a row. Each one increasing by few mgs, and each one was slightly stronger as expected.
If there is a tolerance, it either need higher or more doses, or it's not as significant as they say.
Or I'm immune to this tolerance...

...that stuff likes to run away from heat like crazy, even can defy gravity...

Because of this, it works well to put in in a VapeXnail, or vape it as enhanced leaf (or in a concentrate mesh).

I found it makes a great insomnia medicine as well, once it wears off, and a few times I have dozed off before coming back to baseline.

Me and many other experience mostly opposite effect. Not wanting to sleep and feeling refreshed after the trip. Just like after you wake up from a good sleep.
Only once I was about to fall asleep - that was at 1 AM when I was already so tired that I just wanted the trip to end so I could go to sleep, too tired to even pay attention to the trip.

 

[MoltenTiger]

I once vaped some in the MFLB.
I was using it with some ground herb earlier, and it combusted which left the screen a bit scorched, so I decided it a good time to try DMT in it, simply by placing some extract straight in.
I only had a tiny amount left, what I would deem less than a trip but a comfortable amount, I doubt I would do that much so willingly now though.
It worked well, almost as soon as I applied power it liquidised and I immediately started dragging. Was a bit hot with only an acrylic mouth piece, left a strange sensation on my tongue but was soon distracted by the immediate although extremely mild effect given.
Works well, would recommend if you could afford a separate box or don't use yours often. The smell will last in it forever I imagine, I would not recommend using any vape set up used for herb to vape DMT. The smell is insanely sticky and it will always linger.

 

[grokit]

I once vaped some in the MFLB.
I was using it with some ground herb earlier, and it combusted which left the screen a bit scorched, so I decided it a good time to try DMT in it, simply by placing some extract straight in.
I only had a tiny amount left, what I would deem less than a trip but a comfortable amount, I doubt I would do that much so willingly now though.
It worked well, almost as soon as I applied power it liquidised and I immediately started dragging. Was a bit hot with only an acrylic mouth piece, left a strange sensation on my tongue but was soon distracted by the immediate although extremely mild effect given.
Works well, would recommend if you could afford a separate box or don't use yours often. The smell will last in it forever I imagine, I would not recommend using any vape set up used for herb to vape DMT. The smell is insanely sticky and it will always linger.

Makes me wonder how well their maude dib concentrate box might work for this.

 

[Seek]

I think both MFLB and Maud dib would be terrible for it.
Too hot for it - it would combust and that tastes absolutely horrible.
Also I think it would be impossinle to get the smell of dmt or even worse - its combustion - out of the wood once used.

 

[MoltenTiger]

I think both MFLB and Maud dib would be terrible for it.
Too hot for it - it would combust and that tastes absolutely horrible.
Also I think it would be impossinle to get the smell of dmt or even worse - its combustion - out of the wood once used.

I've always found the combustion taste to be very similar to the smell, a very plasticky, sweet and sharp flavour. Using the flight box it was definitely smoother (a far cry from a spun cone, more inline with changa through a pipe but less harsh again), but that flavour is intense - you can't overwhelm it by toning down the temp, not enough to worry about.
If you are inhaling DMT, you want to get as much as possible into you within 15 seconds. That is the optimum timeframe to work with for maximum absorption and effectivity.
I would compare the MFLB experience to dragging through a spoon with a lighter under it. But due to it being a contained unit, a whole lot more efficient. I would say I got as high with the MFLB than doing 3x the quantity on a spoon. Your results may of course vary.

An interesting thought on the heating process is that although the screen heats up uncontrollably and fast, only what is in contact with it will be near its temperature. As the solid turns instantly to liquid and almost as quickly to airborne vapour, it won't easily continue to heat up as there isn't much thermal mass to conduct to it.
The flight box, and more importantly it's design, offer a nice, relatively manageable solution for anyone pondering a trip to hyperspace. A light bulb contraption may be a better alternative again, but who's not up for breaking trends.
Or you could use an actual flight box sitting unused in the top draw.
I had one, and sure it makes it smell pretty forever, but I don't mind that with mine. I'm glad for it, it overwhelms the other nasty synthetics.

 

[treeman]

Went camping recently and forgot my trusty vapor buddy, my friend was joining us later and he grabbed an eagle bill vaporizer from a headshop. Essentially ike a crack/meth pipe, well we had roaring success vaping DMT through it. While I found significantly harsher than the vapor genie knock off everyone else massively preferred it and was highly rating the eagle bill as a superior method of consuming the dimitri
. Its that straight conductive heat and the potential for burning it is there but it was pretty fucking amazing.

I think everyone should see what nature looks like on DMT. . . We had a few blasts on it and I'm seriously thinking about trying to paint some of the shit I saw. . . I tried to describe it but quickly realised that it was pointless, some things are too stunning for simple words. That magical elf spice is by far the coolest psychedelic (and I've tried more than just a few), its almost certainly the most interesting psychoactive drug IMO, need to get some pharmahuasca on the go . . .