Discreet on demand convection? Does this exist?

[eatdinnergotosleep]

I've been looking around here / r/vaporents for awhile and was hoping I wouldn't need to post something that's been asked several times, but I'm having a really hard time making a decision. I want something that's on demand convection that ideally would be similar to my dbv, but discretion is my number one concern since I'm in an illegal state. I have a pax 2 and it seems fine, but it's pretty smelly and leaves me wanting more. I am not interested in a dynavap or any other butane option. I like the sound of the firewood, milaana, lil bud elite, and ff2+, but none of those seem very pocketable so that has me leaning toward a fury edge or argo. I really like the sound of the size and dosing caps for the edge, but have a feeling it will be smellier than the argo? (I know all dry herb vapes will smell) The argo seems to have a better build quality, based on nothing more than looking at pictures, and I'm guessing it would be better for taking a few hits and returning to the unfinished bowl later, but I don't love the idea of dealing with stems and the slower heat up and extraction. I want something that won't draw attention when I step out of the bar for a couple hits every once in awhile. Am I asking for too much? Sorry for the long post and thanks for any replies.

 

[Delta3DStudios]

Lol, the Grasshopper vaporizer is the unicorn vape you're looking for. It utilizes a proprietary 3D printed heat-exchanger unlike anything else in the industry. This preheats to vaping temperature in about 10 seconds (or less), and uses pure conduction heat as the active heat source. All that crammed into something which looks like a fancy metal pen

The catch with this vaporizer is that the replaceable battery is rather low capacity (expected for it's size) so don't expect too many sessions per battery. Buy extra batteries and an external charger!

Also note the company is now under new management. There was a lot of warranty issues with early adopters (for the first three years! Ouch). Some customers have gone through a dozen warranty replacements and waited months (year+ sometimes) for warranty service. So buyer beware, expect warranty issues, so buy the vaporizer from an authorized dealer! The good news is they are streamlining manufacturing and improving product reliability to reduce warranty woes. Sounds like they are *finally* getting their stuff together, but ya never know, it's been a dramatic story from the beginning (I myself waited over 18 months for my preorder to ship!)

 

[funkyhomer]

I agree that the grasshopper sounds like what you are looking for. HOWEVER, they are an absolutely awful company to work with. My experience is too long to write down, but I’m a recent customer since after their “new management” and I would never buy from them again.

 

[flammy]

The Firewood is absolutely pocketable. The Milaana is as well although the glass makes me less inclined to pocket mine. I have the Firewood 5 (now discontinued) and it is my absolute favorite pocketable vape. Pure convection, great flavor and hot swappable batteries. I wasn't a fan of tray system but the Firewood 6 seems to have addressed a lot of concerns. I am in batch 1 for the FW6 and hope to have mine soon. Initial reports have been strong as well from beta testers. It really seems like a killer pocket vape.

You could also look into an Impcognito paired with a SBS mod like the Aster RT. This combo is also very pocketable, full convection, and great flavor. SBS mods don't have replaceable batteries since they are smaller but the Aster has 4400 Mah which is plenty of power for one day with the Impcognito.

I've heard good things about the Argo but that is a season vape so its not on demand like the two that I have mentioned. For me its crucial to have my OTG option be able to be on demand rather than wait for heat up, etc.

I don't much about the Fury but some do like it and it's very affordable. Hope this helps some.

 

[funkyhomer]

Also, if you were to prioritize: portability, power, reliability, and battery, which do you think would be most important?
I recently added a timber elite by @Bravesst and while it isn’t the smallest vape, it isn’t impossible to keep in a pocket. I actually carried mine with me during an evening walk last night.

I would recommend it because it’s pure convection, that heats up literally instantly. They also use 18650 which are easy to replace, but it’s the first single 18650 battery vape where the battery just lasts and lasts. Really is quite impressive.

 

[Monk Debate]

Also, if you were to prioritize: portability, power, reliability, and battery, which do you think would be most important?
I recently added a timber elite by @Bravesst and while it isn’t the smallest vape, it isn’t impossible to keep in a pocket. I actually carried mine with me during an evening walk last night.

I would recommend it because it’s pure convection, that heats up literally instantly. They also use 18650 which are easy to replace, but it’s the first single 18650 battery vape where the battery just lasts and lasts. Really is quite impressive.

The Timber is amazing but far from discreet. It’s too big to be discreet and with the stems it’s even longer.

I think a Fury Edge with dosing capsules is a good compromise. A Firewood 6 would give you true portability and because it has its own stash of weed would reduce the amount of time you’d have to mess with stems or caps. However we don’t know about smell long term as it’s a brand new vape.

 

[funkyhomer]

The Timber is amazing but far from discreet. It’s too big to be discreet and with the stems it’s even longer.

I agree but I like it so much that insisted on pocketing it the other night and it fit!!

 

[Monk Debate]

I agree but I like it so much that insisted on pocketing it the other night and it fit!!

I agree that it could fit into a roomier pocket, but actually using it would be pretty conspicuous. Still an amazing vape though.

 

[eatdinnergotosleep]

Also, if you were to prioritize: portability, power, reliability, and battery, which do you think would be most important?
I recently added a timber elite by @Bravesst and while it isn’t the smallest vape, it isn’t impossible to keep in a pocket. I actually carried mine with me during an evening walk last night.

I would recommend it because it’s pure convection, that heats up literally instantly. They also use 18650 which are easy to replace, but it’s the first single 18650 battery vape where the battery just lasts and lasts. Really is quite impressive.

i would say reliability and portability would be most important. the timber elite definitely sounds really good, but i think it's a little bigger than i'd like.

The Timber is amazing but far from discreet. It’s too big to be discreet and with the stems it’s even longer.

I think a Fury Edge with dosing capsules is a good compromise. A Firewood 6 would give you true portability and because it has its own stash of weed would reduce the amount of time you’d have to mess with stems or caps. However we don’t know about smell long term as it’s a brand new vape.

i'd guess the firewood would be pretty stealthy when it comes to smell if it's full convection. my girlfriend can never tell when i use the dbv, but she'd alway comment on how the pax 2 reeks. just watched a video of the firewood 6 and it does look really nice, but it also just seems a little bit bigger than i'd like and i'm kind of impatient so i think might just try out the edge since i can get it in a few days. i also just watched a video on that and it looks pretty solid. if i don't like it maybe the firewood 6 will be readily available and i can try that out.

thanks for all the replies

 

[CalyxSmokr]

I am looking for the same thing. I have come down to an Edge too as a compromise but it isn't the pure convection I really want. I like the sound of the Timber but like the form factor on the Lil Bud better. Anyone know how they compare? Could a Lil Bud be enough for bowls on the go?
Seems like Edge is more vape for the money but I like wood.

 

[Monk Debate]

I am looking for the same thing. I have come down to an Edge too as a compromise but it isn't the pure convection I really want. I like the sound of the Timber but like the form factor on the Lil Bud better. Anyone know how they compare? Could a Lil Bud be enough for bowls on the go?
Seems like Edge is more vape for the money but I like wood.

I think the Lil Bud would be more discreet as it’s not as tall. You’ll still be dealing with stems. You can ask Alan if he has any stems that fit dosing caps (he’s healing from an injury right now so there may be a wait).

If you’re talking about the OG Lil Bud, note that it’s unregulated.

 

[sickmanfraud]

Could a Lil Bud be enough for bowls on the go?

definitely.

 

[KeroZen]

The Nomad! Smallest and sexiest on demand convection vape in town!

 

[Brewervapesalot]

Firewood's are very small.... smaller than they look in pics.... deck of cards smsll.... dont smell... convection....

 

[eatdinnergotosleep]

The Nomad! Smallest and sexiest on demand convection vape in town!

That definitely looks interesting. Where is it sold? I'm not seeing much from a quick Google search

 

[KeroZen]

FC / IG exclusive AFAIK.

 

[Vaporware]

I was going to recommend the Nomad too, and your needs are some of the same things that made me choose the Nomad, but there is a long waiting list so the only way to get one now is to be very lucky and find someone who’s willing to sell theirs. There aren’t even 100 out in the world yet, so odds are low.

I would still get on the list for later.

I haven’t used a Firewood yet, but you might be able to get a Firewood 6 soon or at least an older model, and that or maybe an Impcognito or small iHeat (I think some were made to fit side-by-side mods) might be your best dry herb options right now.

 

[KeroZen]

Yes FW6 is coming but I'd wait a bit until the angles are polished personally.

Imp and Impcognito are excellent indeed, I love mines, especially the latter inside a SBS mod. Super compact, excepted the protruding stem. They ship with a shorter stem for stealth but then cooling suffers.

As for the Nomad well... yeah, you ought to be not in a hurry!

 

[Ramahs]

I'm in an extremely unfriendly state, and the Fury 2 is my "out in public vape". I use it walking down the street, I use it at my favorite local bar, etc. No one bats an eye. Plus, it's low-cost enough that if I have to ditch it while evading fucking pigs who are coming for me, it wouldn't be the end of the world.

 

[Monk Debate]

Forget the wait times on the Nomad, the cost of one is at the far end of expensive for a portable vape. I certainly wouldn’t want to use one in public in an illegal state where I may be forced to ditch it.

 

[eatdinnergotosleep]

I'm in an extremely unfriendly state, and the Fury 2 is my "out in public vape". I use it walking down the street, I use it at my favorite local bar, etc. No one bats an eye. Plus, it's low-cost enough that if I have to ditch it while evading fucking pigs who are coming for me, it wouldn't be the end of the world.

This makes me especially excited about my edge being delivered today

 

[C No Ego]

This makes me especially excited about my edge being delivered today

the trick is not to cover air inlet holes on bottom of unit or sticky them up ( lesson learned there LOL) .. I've used fury vapes a while, great little vapes... th edge has better batt life but not quite as fast heat up as fury2. batt life on fury2 is lower but will delivery a few sessions, even more if you heat it quick and then cool down ETC.. edge should deliver lots of small quick sessions , never tried personally that way. let us know man Awesome . main threads are in portable section too ...

 

[CANtalk]

Discrete (and small size) on-demand convection can be done with butane but I haven't seen any main stream evapes do it well with current battery technology yet. The Ghost MV1 is one of the initial battery portable on demand convection evape offerings, but it isn't discrete (has a relatively large battery and size) and it has been hit and miss in reliability compared to other evapes so far.

For discrete and quick heat times I currently find hybrid heating or conduction heating evapes best. The Davinci IQ and MIQRO are conduction heated options that have excellent portability and are on-demand. For reliability and portability in a hybrid heating option I like the S&B Crafty, but it isn't a fast heat up time. There are some box mod convection evapes that are decently on-demand, though discreteness can be in the eye of the beholder.

I don't know how vapor odors can be rectified other than looking at small bowl vapes. Maybe premium quality vapes do a better job of minimizing odors through more efficient extraction . Odors haven't been a problem for me with some premium evapes, though YMMV.

Good luck with your search.

 

[invertedisdead]

If you truly want to be discrete I would suggest pressing your nugs into rosin with a Dabpress, then you can carry a more compact setup that looks like any ordinary ecig. That's discrete.

 

[bossman]

If you truly want to be discrete I would suggest pressing your nugs into rosin with a Dabpress, then you can carry a more compact setup that looks like any ordinary ecig. That's discrete.

Homemade rosin appeals to me as someone just along for the ride on this thread. Wouldn't daily concentrate use level up my tolerance though?