Dani Fusion by Battery-free Ganz

[SlickHenry]

You are not meant to compare different vapes in an individual vape thread. Best is to post in the Ask FC area or search for the manual vape thread where you can compare. Short answer from me is they are pretty different and both excellent in different ways, which is why I own and use both

 

[UhuM]

Got my Metal Fusion yesterday. This is really a nice device. Flavor and draw resistance is good, maybe even better (for me) than my TM2.
Using a small triple flame, getting consistent good results.
I get, why most people want the wodden stem, even after three heatups, the metal stem gets warm, more and it wouldn't be comfortable anymore.
Trying to get the screen back into the tip after the initial clean was a ..., but the post with the kebab skewer got me thinking and now the screen is sitting okish above the halfbowl setting mark.

I was thinking about some screen tool, like Vaphit includes now in its sets. One side for removal and one for getting the screen back in. Maybe with a dome shape, to get the screen the perfect curve to fit and not stress the weakpoints of screen to much.

 

[Mr Turnip]

Try using the mouthpiece.

 

[endof3d]

I was thinking about some screen tool, like Vaphit includes now in its sets. One side for removal and one for getting the screen back in. Maybe with a dome shape, to get the screen the perfect curve to fit and not stress the weakpoints of screen to much.

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Here's a simple, inexpensive DIY screen setter that I used to set my DV screens, then upgraded when buying my first Dani V2. This works for half or full bowl screen settings. Here's how: Simply buy a 1 inch / 2.5 mm in length bolt with two matching nuts with the diameter that is a little smaller than the inside diameter of the Dani's / DV's bowl. Take your bowl to the hardware store to get the best fit.

After cleaning the machining oil from the metal, thread both nuts on to the bolt. The nut closest to the bolt head is for locking purposes only, so just thread it out of the way for now. The last nut threaded on is the important one as that will be the depth adjuster for your screen.

With the bolt head placed on a flat hard surface, place a 'flat' screen on the inside rim of the bowl and slowly and evenly press the screen down in to the bowl. If you chose the right size diameter bolt, the screen should remain perpendicular to the bowl's sides as you press down on the bolt. Inspect your progress as you proceed and when you see the screen is close to the proper depth, thread the nut down to meet the rim of the bowl, and then back it off 1/8 or so turn.

Repeat the above instructions until the screen is placed to your satisfaction. Now that you have achieved the perfect depth for setting a screen, thread the other nut down to meet the depth stop nut to lock it in place. Be aware that it's possible to accidentally move your depth setting nut when snugging the two nuts together. Hand tightening is all that is necessary.

It can be a pain in the ass to set the tool up the first time, but after that for each cleaning it will only take a few seconds to replace the screen perfectly.
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[bobby]

Just received my Dani Fusion 2.0! New smoker, first time trying a DHV.

Getting it soaked in IPA (metal stem) and cotton swabbed shortly for a first session tonight.

Any advice for the airflow holes? Cover both holes, keep 1 hole open, keep 2 holes open?

 

[SlickHenry]

Just received my Dani Fusion 2.0! New smoker, first time trying a DHV.

Getting it soaked in IPA (metal stem) and cotton swabbed shortly for a first session tonight.

Any advice for the airflow holes? Cover both holes, keep 1 hole open, keep 2 holes open?

Depends on personal preference really. Natively I use it nearly closed with maybe half a hole open. If using through glass you probably want more airflow.

Just experiment with what you enjoy. Closed if you like mouth to lung (MTL) or more open if you prefer direct to lung (DTL). The vapour quality is up there with the best.

 

[spazzoo]

I bought the Flare right when it was released in July and have been loving it, until now. It no longer starts heating up when I place the Fusion in it.
Usually the timer would start and I could tell it was getting hot, but now nothing happens when I put the Fusion inside. Anyone else experience this problem?
I reached out to BFG because I am still within the warranty period, hoping for a quick response

 

[TheScamericann]

I bought the Flare right when it was released in July and have been loving it, until now. It no longer starts heating up when I place the Fusion in it.
Usually the timer would start and I could tell it was getting hot, but now nothing happens when I put the Fusion inside. Anyone else experience this problem?
I reached out to BFG because I am still within the warranty period, hoping for a quick response

A couple of folk a page or 2 back have experienced the same issue.

 

[chimpybits]

I bought the Flare right when it was released in July and have been loving it, until now. It no longer starts heating up when I place the Fusion in it.
Usually the timer would start and I could tell it was getting hot, but now nothing happens when I put the Fusion inside. Anyone else experience this problem?
I reached out to BFG because I am still within the warranty period, hoping for a quick response

Yep I bought the Flare as soon as it came out, then a few weeks go, it was a brick. Soothing Vapours promptly sorted me out with a new replacement unit and Phil said that the replacement Flare is one with the new programming; it solves the overheating seen in a few of the OG Flares but removes the compatibility for the Tempest.

 

[spazzoo]

Yep I bought the Flare as soon as it came out, then a few weeks go, it was a brick. Soothing Vapours promptly sorted me out with a new replacement unit and Phil said that the replacement Flare is one with the new programming; it solves the overheating seen in a few of the OG Flares but removes the compatibility for the Tempest.

Good to know! I sent an email and a message through the BFG website, it's been almost a day but hoping to hear back soon.

 

[endof3d]

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Welcome to the FC forum @spazzoo . As others have said there were some problems with the Flare. Unfortunately, this is happening during the Holiday season which always slows thing down. Let us know how this all resolves for you.
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[Shorner]

I bought a flare in the Black Friday sales from Recommended Vape Supplies, the guy said mine was the updated version it works flawlessly, much.better than a torch, 1HE is a breeze

 

[maremaresing]

@Shorner I'm glad to hear more feedback on the updated version. It's no new there aren't many/any good reviews of it. How long does it take to heat enough for 1HE from cold?

 

[Shorner]

@Shorner I'm glad to hear more feedback on the updated version. It's no new there aren't many/any good reviews of it. How long does it take to heat enough for 1HE from cold?

Depends on strain but I have mine set on.120w at 40secs dark roast

 

[bobby]

Man, what’s up with people having issues with heat-up times when it comes to butane devices like the Dani?

I use a pretty standard dual-flame torch I bought at a farmer’s market, and while I’ve never counted, it takes maybe 10 seconds for it to “click”? Feels like a non-issue to me but it’s always the largest criticism found online.

I had people recommending the Dynavap over the Dani Fusion because it heats up faster, which I feel is crazy, because I’d save what like 2 seconds? Idk.

 

[SlickHenry]

Man, what’s up with people having issues with heat-up times when it comes to butane devices like the Dani?

I use a pretty standard dual-flame torch I bought at a farmer’s market, and while I’ve never counted, it takes maybe 10 seconds for it to “click”? Feels like a non-issue to me but it’s always the largest criticism found online.

I had people recommending the Dynavap over the Dani Fusion because it heats up faster, which I feel is crazy, because I’d save what like 2 seconds? Idk.

Yeah, I find it really easy to use. Personally I heat my Dani with a large torch (Blazer Big Buddy) so it heats up quickly. If I was to use a small single flame torch, like I do with my Dynavap, it would take a long time as the Dani has a much bigger thermal mass. The wand also is much quicker for a Dynavap compared to the Dani. In conclusion the Dani definitely takes longer to heat up or needs a more powerful torch but to my mind is a non issue.

 

[b8man99]

A lighter like the Blazer big buddy brings out the best in the Dani in my experience. So quick and easy.

The flare is nice to have when you’re watching tv and don’t want to disturb people with the roar and ridiculous overkill of the big buddy, but it has too many issues to make it the default.

 

[maremaresing]

Depends on strain but I have mine set on.120w at 40secs dark roast

Thanks for giving the wattage and time and roast info here. My DIY 120w induction heater wasn't coming close to this, and it was important to know that was possible with the fusion. I came very close to buying a flare based on your post, and still think it's a phenomenal item.

Of course, I prefer the satisfaction of making do with what I have around, so I retuned my configuration and am now hitting dark roast 1he at 35 sec to the click. I never really "got" induction heaters and thought that the use of fire and lighters is part of the charm but this has me honeymooning all over again with the Fusion. Just totally gobsmacked at what it can do.

Man, what’s up with people having issues with heat-up times when it comes to butane devices like the Dani?

I use a pretty standard dual-flame torch I bought at a farmer’s market, and while I’ve never counted, it takes maybe 10 seconds for it to “click”? Feels like a non-issue to me but it’s always the largest criticism found online.

I had people recommending the Dynavap over the Dani Fusion because it heats up faster, which I feel is crazy, because I’d save what like 2 seconds? Idk.

IDK honestly. I also used a tiny dual flame pocket lighter with a modest jet height with great success. This is a lighter I have good results on the dynas, too. Fuel lasts forever and I get the best 1he from the bottom ring. The mass on the Fusion is much less and the whole design is more refined. It's not like the chunky danis and a small pocket torch is more than enough.

The quad torch I've used put way too much energy into the tip, ruining the flavor and giving poor results. On contrast, it's perfect for the Dani series.
I feel the big buddy torches are overkill for the Fusion, but whatever people like I guess. Seems like a waste of butane and most of the torch energy misses the fusion cap.

 

[SlickHenry]

IDK honestly. I also used a tiny dual flame pocket lighter with a modest jet height with great success. This is a lighter I have good results on the dynas, too. Fuel lasts forever and I get the best 1he from the bottom ring. The mass on the Fusion is much less and the whole design is more refined. It's not like the chunky danis and a small pocket torch is more than enough.

The quad torch I've used put way too much energy into the tip, ruining the flavor and giving poor results. On contrast, it's perfect for the Dani series.
I feel the big buddy torches are overkill for the Fusion, but whatever people like I guess. Seems like a waste of butane and most of the torch energy misses the fusion cap.

Lee from Tabletop bong gives a good overview of the different torches as well as the wand that he uses to heat the Fusion 2.0 :

I don't find the Big Buddy overkill and have never combusted nor ruined flavour. It clicks within approximately 15 seconds and I can vary the flame size, heat bottom band, top band or even both for a variety of hits. My personal experience with this torch is that the larger flame gives a really even heat up compared to multiple smaller flame torches. Of course I wouldn't dream of using it on vapes with much smaller thermal mass.

For reference I tried my single flame Dynavap torch and if took approximately 45 seconds for first cycle. I do have a triple torch than am tempted to try for a bit more portability but experience with other vapes is that it isn't the most even heater. I need to get a small double torch to give that a go.

To be honest whatever works for you is fine. I am sure that there are several ways you can heat it up. It really is a versatile vape!

 

[maremaresing]

Lee is like stoner bob ross and I appreciate him so much. He misleads/misinforms on his electronic vape reviews with regards to heat times, but the rest is very good and chill.

I think a small single torch jet is the reference point for most people that disregard anything less than an F-16 afterburner for heating the Fusion. Yeah, a small torch like that isn't going to get it done, but anything above that will absolutely get it done quickly. I just see the twin torch as the sweet spot for it.

If I was reloading multiple bowls out of the fusion in a row, I'd certainly be looking to reduce heatup time any way I could. Glad your torch works for you but also give a smaller form factor twin torch a try sometime.

 

[TedJones]

Really impressed with the bigger bowl, wider bore, and disc calibration after using it for a bit now The glass stem I typically use, that the V1 was on, is collecting reclaim a lot quicker now too. Here’s a lightly filled bowl

https://imgur.com/a/HpVD7ZY

 

[Bakin4Life]

Ran into an issue with my kitchen torch and decided to further refine my wand technique with the Dani, rather than springing for another torch or more butane, as I'm away from home right now.

Was finally able to get the full extraction I wanted, but it takes about 90s @ 560F from cold, which would be unacceptable for most, based on the last few posts in this thread -- plus, it takes two heat cycles for me to finish a bowl.

For me, it's workable, and I'll go with it, for now.

 

[Agent_KushmanX]

Got my Fusion 2.0 Poker today, its really noice overall a very nice piece, i find that with the wand i get sesh mode, multiple heat ups overall a really nice sipper experience, im sure i could push it more but i havent bothered, i use a blazer big buddy torch and in a couple of heat cycles cook the whole bowl, great taste too, wish the poker was compatible with other tips, i would love to use my temptest with it as well xD

 

[Perfect_Speed4069]

I've been extremely impressed by the Artemis, in particular the little condenser that's attached to the bowl (I've not noticed many people discussing this feature)

I'm used to using my previous Fusion wide open, with no finger on the carb, so was a bit concerned by a shorter stem with no hole in it. But the little condenser does a great job of adding a little more cooling without damaging the flavour.

I'm using hilariously small amounts at the moment - 0.03g loads - and I've been delighted how well it performs with such low loads. It's still early days, but I think I prefer it to the Tempest, which I still find quite fiddly.

Enormous thanks to @Shorner for passing this tremendous device across to me.

 

[Perfect_Speed4069]

The one up front is a kollea dual torch pinpoint lighter, now discontinued.

I can confirm a kollea clone is still available, although £60 feels a little steep for a lighter of mysterious provenance.

I wish I could recommend the dual flame flint Jobon as a cheaper option, but it's the most disappointing of all the 8 Jobon/Honest lighters I own - tank seems very small, and the flames are sputtery and inconsistent in comparison to the 1/3/4 flame versions I've used with the same mid range butane.

Anyway, thanks for sharing.