Da buddha dab kit (nail ? )

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I got my IR thermometer in and the results are pretty interesting. (Hopefully I'm using the thermometer correctly...)

Even at max temp and with the stopper in, I'm struggling to heat my nail up to 300F. It's only getting up to 296F surprisingly. I did do a dab at this temp and it felt more effective than before. Going to be playing around with this a bunch.

edit: Ah, it's now up to 305F!

Just read in the manual, reflective objects give lower than actual temp and pose a burn hazard!

edit 2: Success! EMS lowered to 0.14 for now (polished titanium), now just read a reading of 932F!! Burn hazard indeed.

edit 3: 3 o'clock reading is 875F in the corners of the cup (middle of cup appears to be slightly cooler)

3 o' clock temp after doing a dab is 800F. Few minutes later it's going back up to 825F. This is something I actually wouldn't have realized without the thermometer.
 
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I just got the Flavor Kit myself. Wee!

So I installed it and the nail was sitting pretty far forward. About half a centimeter from the front of the glass globe... decided not to use it since the heat might break the glass.

Called 7th floor support and they told me to actually push down on the element a bit and that should center it. Lo and behold it worked, so if anyone else is having that issue, try pushing down and back a little on the element.

Ugh. I just cleaned my setup and tried to put it back together... running into the same problem. This time pushing it down doesn't seem to center it :( Me sad.
 
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MileHighLife

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Ugh. I just cleaned my setup and tried to put it back together... running into the same problem. This time pushing it down doesn't seem to center it :( Me sad.

Mine won't center perfectly either. When I first put it together I noticed it and contacted 7th floor immediately. Unfortunately Chris (I think was his name) was no longer taking care of the email/cs side of things down there at the time and I was instead talking with some chick who didn't seem to even have common knowledge of their products. After many emails back and forth her only advice she could give me was to bend the heater cover retainer (new style) to apply less pressure on the heater cover. I tried this and all that happened was I had a floppy heater cover. I bent the retainer back how it is supposed to be and pulled out a single old style heater cover clip and used it as it was intended and it straightened the heater cover out quite a bit for me.

I've come to the conclusion that the issue in my case is too large of an inner diameter of the heater cover base. If you are using a dbv with new style heater cover retainer and have the old style heater cover clips try it out.
 
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Mine won't center perfectly either. When I first put it together I noticed it and contacted 7th floor immediately. Unfortunately Chris (I think was his name) was no longer taking care of the email/cs side of things down there at the time and I was instead talking with some chick who didn't seem to even have common knowledge of their products. After many emails back and forth her only advice she could give me was to bend the heater cover retainer (new style) to apply less pressure on the heater cover. I tried this and all that happened was I had a floppy heater cover. I bent the retainer back how it is supposed to be and pulled out a single old style heater cover clip and used it as it was intended and it straightened the heater cover out a bit for me.

I've come to the conclusion that the issue in my case was too large of an inner diameter of the heater cover base. If you are using a new style dbv and have the old style heater cover clips try it out.

Dang. I'm just sitting here messing around with my DBV completely disassembled, lol. Don't have the old style cover clips to try :(

I just put it back together and now it's worse than before, the nail is actually touching glass! Ugh this is so annoying.
 
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Alright so I pushed down on the element a good amount and the Titanium cap is now sitting pretty darn low but at least it's not touching glass. I think I'm just going to use it like this, even though it is definitely sitting abnormally low and according to my IR therm it's not heating up as hot as it used to (hitting a max 725F when before I could get up to 950F or higher if I wanted). Oh well, 725F is a good temp for dabbing so not too upset.

Pic of the cap sitting really low:
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Vitolo

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I use the DBV stir tool... and after set up to vape, I go around the nail with the tool to be sure it is not making contact.
Yes the element does sit low.
 
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I use the DBV stir tool... and after set up to vape, I go around the nail with the tool to be sure it is not making contact.
Yes the element does sit low.

Ah cool, that's a good idea. Still a little bummed it doesn't sit as nicely as it used to but oh well. I'll try and order some of those old style shims when I need to replace my titanium cap. That or buy a d-nail... heh heh.
 
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VB2 is more powerful and user friendly than a d-nail, and cost is a bit lowere... as well as it being more versatile.
That being said.... the d-nail flaw is it heats your actual glass piece by sitting there.

The DBV nail kit is removed from filtration source, and can be used if you do not like using water!(like me.)
 
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VB2 is more powerful and user friendly than a d-nail, and cost is a bit lowere... as well as it being more versatile.
That being said.... the d-nail flaw is it heats your actual glass piece by sitting there.
The DBV nail kit is removed from filtration source, and can be used if you do not like using water!(like me.)

Oh wow didn't know that the d-nail heats up the glass piece. While it was appealing to me to have it sitting in the bong, that does seem like it might cause problems with prolonged use (I keep my DBV on high a lot, not sure that would work with a d-nail then).

Off to research the VB2! Thanks for the tip, didn't know about this one.

edit: zomg $750 !

Dual ceramic heaters, nice. 15 minute auto-shutoff is actually a really nice feature too, at least for concentrates and how hot the vaporizer gets.
 
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It would be really cool if they somehow released a domeless titanium cap that used the full size of the ceramic heater. Gotta think there's a lot of wasted heat in the current setup.
 
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I've been using my oil kit to hit bubble hash! it is amazing! If you've ever enjoyed bottle tokes, this is exactly the same thing minus the tobacco smoke! it takes a few pulls to kill a pinhead ball, and all that's left is a white ash, no black gunky who-knows-what from improperly purged oils. ice water and plant matter is clean clean clean, and works perfectly in the Ti nail! I filter with water and inhaled 20 balls back to back, so smooth due to low temps, mmmmm.
 
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MileHighLife

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Nice video and good tip on how to get the reclaim out of the wand but what is the screen in there for? Do you use the same wand for flower and oil? Just curious cause I figure the screen to be a niusance to the vapor trying to get through it's path.
 
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Vitolo

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You can use it for herb , due to screen, yes..... but I use it for a different purpose.
Since, as the video points out, oil gathers at any restriction, some oil from the vapor adheres to screen.
This makes an easy helper to get the build-up into that reservoir with some heat assistance. It also allows for a hit later on , using just direct DBV or SSV heat... the screen releases a couple nice hits.
I have used the rig both ways, and I prefer it with screen in.
With the screen out, the reservoir is harder to use because that makes the first restrictions farther back.
It makes for a smoother hit, (I do not enjoy water filtration) and it does not hamper the level of medication.
 

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You can use it for herb , due to screen, yes..... but I use it for a different purpose.
Since, as the video points out, oil gathers at any restriction, some oil from the vapor adheres to screen.
This makes an easy helper to get the build-up into that reservoir with some heat assistance. It also allows for a hit later on , using just direct DBV or SSV heat... the screen releases a couple nice hits.
I have used the rig both ways, and I prefer it with screen in.
With the screen out, the reservoir is harder to use because that makes the first restrictions farther back.
It makes for a smoother hit, (I do not enjoy water filtration) and it does not hamper the level of medication.

So you use it to help build reclaim ... I see that it may give you hits later on but wouldn't it be optimal to give headstrong hits from the get go? I dunno maybe we're after different things here. To each their own and I respect each and everyone's different views and objectives when vaping ... although I do believe it to lower the level of medication due to restrictive air flow and more surface area at room temp for vapors to consolidate on.

Not trying to burst any bubbles or anything just thinking scientifically.
 
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This might be a forbidden bump - and if that's the case, I apologize and I can create a new thread.

But I'm really curious... Anyone ever worry about side-health effects about using this?

I used my DBV oil kit for months - eventually the taste got pretty bad, due to the nail. I'm worried about two things...

1) I don't trust that the nail is real GR2 Titanium (it looks cheap, and if I remember correctly, it IS cheap)

2) Could that bad taste be indicative of oxidation? It tastes bad, no matter how thoroughly cleaned with rubbing alcohol.

Compared to regular dabbing, I'm worried if this was a lot more of a health risk.
 
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Vitolo

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hold the nail in hemostat or pliers and torch the thing until it glows red.
That will clean it up for you.
 
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