Custom Glass Ideas/Designs Thread

[blankrider]

@EverythingsHazy can you do just one more picture where the only thing you change is the mouthpiece. Give It that normal flared mouthpiece and we will save this other one for the FC -186

since there is no pillar on DHgate would you guys like to suggest a FC # for the mini pillar and full size pillar? How about the diffusion pump?

I was thinking FC-710 for diffusion pump since it is an oil only piece really

 

[BoogerMan]

Does no one like the joint with the J reinforcement style? I think it looks cool and will make the large pillar look more different than the mini. Is this just me haha?

I like FC-710 for the diffusion pump.

Do we have to do numbers for the names?
What about FC-mini-pillar and FC-large-pillar?

That way when we post about them we don't have to memorize numbers to pieces haha

 

[blankrider]

Well how about we number the ones that are a redesign of an existing DHgate numbered piece.

Like the next thing I want to work on is a large recycler with solid vortex. Like a larger, thicker, female joint version of the GB-242 and calling it the FC-242
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/glass-bong-glass-oil-rig-bong-smoking-pipe/211852248.html

 

[mestizo]

Not interested in the torch rig, so far I like what @EverythingsHazy has done with the large pillar, and definitely agree with @blankrider on the larger, thicker, female version of the GB-242.
I like the mini pillar as is, and I'm sold on the diffusion pump.

 

[Erwin]

here we go. Fixed the mouthpiece and neck to a nicer one, and made the angle change on the connection for the water bubbling problem.

Love it. Perfect neck, joint and mouthpiece design. Everything I love about the 186 and none of the things I dislike. Thanks @EverythingsHazy!

Otherwise, I hate to backtrack on the mini pillar, but after looking at the originals I think an important point needs to be raised: Is the mini going to be primarily a flower piece or an oil piece? As I understand it the pillar perc functions somewhat like a recycler, in that the vapor travels up the tubes while in contact with water, which creates cooling without additional percolation. On the originals, the large tube is designed as a flower piece with a male joint and a lot of percolation. The mini, however, is designed primarily as a dab rig, with a male joint and much simpler perc. (check it out for yourself: http://aqualabtechnologies.com/scie...s/sovereignty-mini-peyote-to-pillar-perc.html)

The point I'm getting at is that if the mini is meant to be a dab rig, the matrix perc is really not the right perc for the job. The matrix (which I love) is best known for lots of diffusion and stacking many small bubbles. While this is great for flowers, it's what robs oil of its flavor. If the mini is to serve as an oil recycler, we want it to have minimal percolation and focus more on the vapor contacting and traveling with the water, a la the diffusion pump. For this, the matrix would be self-defeating. Perhaps something much simpler, even just a bulb with two or three holes like the original? This would result in much more flavorful dabs.

Edit: here's a closeup of the original mini's perc. It's not the multi-hole peyote perc that's on the full size tubes. AquaLab describes it as a "Reinforced Peyote Ball 4-Hole Diffused Perc," which really just translates to four plain ol' round holes in opposing directions. It mostly just distributes the vapor evenly between the pillars, and isn't designed to add much if any real percolation.

 

[Monsoon]

Well how about we number the ones that are a redesign of an existing DHgate numbered piece.

I think that would be best, keeps things simple. Number codes, while cryptic, are easier to search for too and less likely to be butchered during translation.

The point I'm getting at is that if the mini is meant to be a dab rig, the matrix perc is really not the right perc for the job. The matrix (which I love) is best known for lots of diffusion and stacking many small bubbles. While this is great for flowers, it's what robs oil of its flavor. If the mini is to serve as an oil recycler, we want it to have minimal percolation and focus more on the vapor contacting and traveling with the water, a la the diffusion pump. For this, the matrix would be self-defeating. Perhaps something much simpler, even just a bulb with two or three holes like the original? This would result in much more flavorful dabs.

I use a Mobius Matrix Clear for dabbing most of the time, there is less flavour but in return the hit is much smoother. It really comes down to personal preference though my perception is that flavour is king for the majority of dabbers. Maybe someone with experience with a pillar could chime in with their thoughts?

Also I'm wondering if any thought is being given to the clearance between the joint and the can for use when inverting a vape like the Evo? I have this stemless piece and with the Evo it's a very tight fit. I'll probably just be using these pieces for dabbing or with a whip but I'm guessing it's a concern for others.

 

[Roth]

Also I'm wondering if any thought is being given to the clearance between the joint and the can for use when inverting a vape like the Evo? I have this stemless piece and with the Evo it's a very tight fit. I'll probably just be using these pieces for dabbing or with a whip but I'm guessing it's a concern for others.

Good point. I'll only be buying pieces that can fit an EVO. Hoping the standard distance is enough, otherwise I'll have to hold off.

 

[weenstoned]

Well how about we number the ones that are a redesign of an existing DHgate numbered piece.

Like the next thing I want to work on is a large recycler with solid vortex. Like a larger, thicker, female joint version of the GB-242 and calling it the FC-242
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/glass-bong-glass-oil-rig-bong-smoking-pipe/211852248.html

 

[blankrider]

@Erwin what you use a piece for is really up to you. Hell you could you a pillar to smoke cigarettes like in the video but I wouldn't recommend it.

Anyways the mini pillar is being made with simple peyote perc just like the real thing. It will be a great dab rig and possibly vape rig too. The large pillar is being made with the matrix perc for more diffusion. It should hopefully satisfy smokers, vapers, and dabbers who don't mind a big rig.

I personally don't like using rigs for more than one purpose. If a rig is great for both smoking and dabbing I would probably just get 2.

 

[Erwin]

@Erwin what you use a piece for is really up to you. Hell you could you a pillar to smoke cigarettes like in the video but I wouldn't recommend it.

Anyways the mini pillar is being made with simple peyote perc just like the real thing. It will be a great dab rig and possibly vape rig too. The large pillar is being made with the matrix perc for more diffusion. It should hopefully satisfy smokers, vapers, and dabbers who don't mind a big rig.

I personally don't like using rigs for more than one purpose. If a rig is great for both smoking and dabbing I would probably just get 2.

Perfect. This way we've got one that's optimal for dabs and one that's optimal for vaping flowers. I also don't like multi-purposing rigs, I was just making sure we were all on the same page. As it is I might have to order both...

Also, you couldn't pay me to rip a cigarette through one like that poor guy.

I use a Mobius Matrix Clear for dabbing most of the time, there is less flavor but in return the hit is much smoother. It really comes down to personal preference though my perception is that flavor is king for the majority of dabbers. Maybe someone with experience with a pillar could chime in with their thoughts?

You'll most definitely get very smooth dabs if you're doing so through a large matrix perc as you are, but in my experience (I've got a few matrix pieces myself) you're sacrificing the majority of the flavor in the process. Have you tried comparing the flavor you get to a piece with less diffusion? The purpose of a recycler is to cool vapor primarily through water contact and movement as opposed to percolation, which ideally will provide a smooth dab while still giving you a lot of flavor.

I've admittedly never hit a pillar, so all my suggestions are under the assumption that the multiple pillars function like a recycler, with water flowing up and down the tubes in a cyclical motion. From the experience he described I'm guessing @blankrider has though, and it sounds like he's got it figured out and is a step ahead of me anyway. I'm probably just stressin' over nothing...

 

[oli]

First of all, I'll repeat, @blankrider Santa of the year

Second, Loving all these new designs coming, you guys are doing some fine work
Can't wait to get my hands on those new toys!!!

ps:won't be interested either in the torch thing, but cool idea



GRIDDED PERCS:

First of all I do not have any in my arsenal but damn would not mind one...

I've always thought they were'nt any gridded perc pieces on DHgate because the time consuming (and dexterity?) of making it.

But after seeing this piece on DHGate and wonder if its the very first gridded piece I see on there or at least past the Cheap bubbler thread, or is it???

anyway this is the one

http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/2014-new-design-glass-bongs-water-pipe-with/214965761.html



So if gridded percs could now be an option, wouldn't it be great to have some of those bad boys in our cheap but OOOh so satisfying arsenal


I've patchworked a few designs together for some quality after hours, good honest to god, glass porn

 

[alltoreup]

Tossing out a design that I don't think I've seen mentioned: a Sheldon Black travel bubbler. Perfect size for vaping. Removable down stem and mouthpiece.

 

[VJJJV]

Love it. Perfect neck, joint and mouthpiece design. Everything I love about the 186 and none of the things I dislike. Thanks @EverythingsHazy!

Otherwise, I hate to backtrack on the mini pillar, but after looking at the originals I think an important point needs to be raised: Is the mini going to be primarily a flower piece or an oil piece? As I understand it the pillar perc functions somewhat like a recycler, in that the vapor travels up the tubes while in contact with water, which creates cooling without additional percolation. On the originals, the large tube is designed as a flower piece with a male joint and a lot of percolation. The mini, however, is designed primarily as a dab rig, with a male joint and much simpler perc. (check it out for yourself: http://aqualabtechnologies.com/scie...s/sovereignty-mini-peyote-to-pillar-perc.html)

The point I'm getting at is that if the mini is meant to be a dab rig, the matrix perc is really not the right perc for the job. The matrix (which I love) is best known for lots of diffusion and stacking many small bubbles. While this is great for flowers, it's what robs oil of its flavor. If the mini is to serve as an oil recycler, we want it to have minimal percolation and focus more on the vapor contacting and traveling with the water, a la the diffusion pump. For this, the matrix would be self-defeating. Perhaps something much simpler, even just a bulb with two or three holes like the original? This would result in much more flavorful dabs.

Edit: here's a closeup of the original mini's perc. It's not the multi-hole peyote perc that's on the full size tubes. AquaLab describes it as a "Reinforced Peyote Ball 4-Hole Diffused Perc," which really just translates to four plain ol' round holes in opposing directions. It mostly just distributes the vapor evenly between the pillars, and isn't designed to add much if any real percolation.

The thing is though: Most buyers buy these because of the effects. Functionality is of course very important, but at some point the visual design and the effects become more important. Kinda like with cars. Maybe it's stupid, but looks matter a lot to a lot of people.

edit: here is a design that just performs so well I don't really care much if it makes sense or not.

 

[blankrider]

So I have no clue how to use Photoshop and do not even have it on my computer. I did my best with microsoft paint to illustrate how I want to make the FC-242. Can someone good with computers please make a good version of this for me to submit for production.

I shortened the can of the FC-187 and added the recycler bits from the GB-242 and a hitman neck. Here are links to all pieces
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/glass-bong-glass-oil-rig-bong-smoking-pipe/211852248.html

http://www.dhgate.com/product/2014-...ong-birdcage/214701656.html#s1-0-1|3246569647

http://cdn1.bigcommerce.com/n-yp39j...7711240442c_l__53850.1382654409.1280.1280.jpg

 

[VaPeD&CoNfUsEd]

I want that to become reality! I love my gb-242 (the function and vortex are amazing) just wish it were bigger.

 

[NickDlow]

I don't use my 242 as much as I'd like because of the size. This design is looking mighty nice.

 

[Erwin]

The thing is though: Most buyers buy these because of the effects. Functionality is of course very important, but at some point the visual design and the effects become more important. Kinda like with cars. Maybe it's stupid, but looks matter a lot to a lot of people.

True, that matrix perc is damn sexy, I'm just lookin for that healthy balance of pretty and functional. The big pillar with the matrix will be awesome, though, for sure. I'll definitely be getting one.

Also, this is my submission for a pillar recycler, if there's interest from anyone (@Cannabis Connoisseur):

I imagine it would hit like a dream. It'd definitely need a better mouthpiece though...

 

[VJJJV]

True, that matrix perc is damn sexy, I'm just lookin for that healthy balance of pretty and functional. The big pillar with the matrix will be awesome, though, for sure. I'll definitely be getting one.

Also, this is my submission for a pillar recycler, if there's interest from anyone (@Cannabis Connoisseur):

I imagine it would hit like a dream. It'd definitely need a better mouthpiece though...

omg yes, please, yes, did I say yes already?
I also second on that mouthpiece, maybe a sidecar instead, if that could work somehow..

 

[blankrider]

@VJJJV Brandon P is a wizard of function and can make pretty much any design into a recycler that can vortex harder than anyone else

I understand the want to make everything a recycler but I swear that if a pillar recycler was really a good design a big name company would have made them. And I don't really count vertigo as a big name company even though they are established and I definitely do know of them. They are kind of like a name brand name knock off. And even though they made this design it was in very small numbers due to the lack of demand.

The Sovereignty hornet recycler is a great example of another poor design that still got produced. Sometimes designs that are less than optimal are produced in small numbers and sold for lots of money. It looks so much better than it functions

EDIT: here is my revised FC-242. I raised up the perc so it does not bubble up the return. I also did my best to illustrate the second uptake tube and connect the return to the can. I believe that this is a winning design right here but am open to feedback before I submit it.

 

[Dramma Lamma]

@VJJJV
EDIT: here is my revised FC-242. I raised up the perc so it does not bubble up the return. I also did my best to illustrate the second uptake tube and connect the return to the can. I believe that this is a winning design right here but am open to feedback before I submit it.

What? No thanks.

When you said a bigger 242 I was all on board and just wanted thicker glass and a bit more support under the lifted recycle chamber, to help with tip issue. A tweak on the mouthpiece cant hurt either.

Why did it have to become some generic ass can all of a sudden? like everything else already is (seriously.)

A fat can with the relatively small recycle chamber up and lifted is not what I hoped for.

The small amount of free glass space is a big positive to the original, and its the only recycler I've seen or used where the recycle chamber is quite actually the same size as perc chamber, don't ruin that please.

The original most definitely needs more support to balance and support a large vape. But that can to inverted flask shaped recycle chamber is ugly IMO, the 2 oppositely orientated flask shapes on the original made it a nice astetic shape you don't see often.

Keep the flask base, I am totally not interested in that can 242.

@VJJJV
I understand the want to make everything a recycler but I swear that if a pillar recycler was really a good design a big name company would have made them.

Edit: I would also like to add in this, the hive minded notion of "If a big company didn't do X design and make it popular and successful, then it must be BAD" is just insanely horribly flawed logic.

I get you have more $$ invested in glass than most of the people suggesting things here, but that train of thought is not logic at all. Lets look at betamax for example, it never caught on therefore it MUST have been utter trash right..............

 

[Frederick McGuire]

So I have no clue how to use Photoshop and do not even have it on my computer. I did my best with microsoft paint to illustrate how I want to make the FC-242. Can someone good with computers please make a good version of this for me to submit for production.

I shortened the can of the FC-187 and added the recycler bits from the GB-242 and a hitman neck. Here are links to all pieces
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/glass-bong-glass-oil-rig-bong-smoking-pipe/211852248.html

http://www.dhgate.com/product/2014-...ong-birdcage/214701656.html#s1-0-1|3246569647

http://cdn1.bigcommerce.com/n-yp39j...7711240442c_l__53850.1382654409.1280.1280.jpg

I would buy the shit outta that
(Then again I'll pretty much buy anything with a matrix )

So the current thought is bent neck on the large pillar?
Would an angled SG natty splash be a potential fit?
Not sure if it'd just be unnecessary extra work, but given the pillar often has it to begin with, it could be cool

@EverythingsHazy, I don't really think the slant at the bottom of the bubbler mouthpiece is going to work how you're thinking...
Sure it may stop a few ml of water from pooling there after a hit if it bubbled up into the neck, but by the time bubbles are in the neck, the connection between the can and neck won't really matter - you'll get splash back unless yo stop drawing...

Just saying, if I got a bubbler with a connection like that, I'd think it was janky, and seriously consider asking for at least a partial refund.

If I saw that in the pics and knew it was a design element I'd seriously consider skipping the piece...

It may just be me, but if any piece is gonna have a bubbler style mouthpiece, I'd say it should keep the traditional straight / 90 degree exit from the can...

Thoughts?

 

[Erwin]

@VJJJV Brandon P is a wizard of function and can make pretty much any design into a recycler that can vortex harder than anyone else

I understand the want to make everything a recycler but I swear that if a pillar recycler was really a good design a big name company would have made them. And I don't really count vertigo as a big name company even though they are established and I definitely do know of them. They are kind of like a name brand name knock off. And even though they made this design it was in very small numbers due to the lack of demand.

Have you actually hit one? I admittedly haven't, but I don't think you can say a design is bad based purely on it's sales. I've heard and read very positive reviews and everything I know about recyclers and perc design would indicate that it should be a pretty epic rig, for essentially the same reasons that the diffusion pump works. There's no opportunity for the bubbles to pop until they've had lots of sustained contact with moving water. With all the surface in the pillars I'd imagine you get quite a bit of cooling, while the lack of room for the bubbles to stack and pop in would deliver a lot of flavor.

I suggested it because others had brought up the idea of a pillar recycler, and this is a pretty good looking and seemingly highly functional one. Apparently @VJJJV and @Cannabis Connoisseur are down and I would imagine it'd be a pretty desirable design based on what the FC crowd seems to look for in glass but, as you (@blankrider) said, the original vertigo didn't sell to well. I guess it just remains to see if anyone else is interested in it.

EDIT: here is my revised FC-242. I raised up the perc so it does not bubble up the return. I also did my best to illustrate the second uptake tube and connect the return to the can. I believe that this is a winning design right here but am open to feedback before I submit it.

I like it. I would imagine a low-drag perc like a matrix would go well with the double-arm design. Should be a real smooth and light draw even while steadily vortexing. The height of the can and position of the perc even look pretty solid in your rendition. I'd imagine you'd want the matrix pretty centered in the can and between the intake and outtake tubes. You just want to make sure not to leave too much room above the perc for bubbles to pop before they hit the recycling chamber. You might need a prototype or two to tweak it to perfection, but once it's ready I'm in. It'll look great on my shelf in between my d020-d and my GB-186

 

[blankrider]

I have hit a real full size sg pillar on multiple occasions. Smoked flowers and did dabs. Has anyone else asking even hit one? I tried asking once before but I don't think anyone answered

I already said that I don't know how to use photoshop. I did my best making the 242 and seem to have gotten a pretty positive response. @Dramma Lamma if you think you can do better please post your version.

And I get that some things that don't take off can be great. For example I always found Sega to have better stuff then Nintendo. Game gear was a decade ahead of gameboy. I have never used a betamax but I will take your word that it is good stuff because you are probably speaking from experience.

Has a single person asking for the pillar recycler hit one and it was awesome or are you asking because it seems cool? Because that is flawed logic

 

[oli]

So I have no clue how to use Photoshop and do not even have it on my computer. I did my best with microsoft paint to illustrate how I want to make the FC-242. Can someone good with computers please make a good version of this for me to submit for production.

I shortened the can of the FC-187 and added the recycler bits from the GB-242 and a hitman neck. Here are links to all pieces
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/glass-bong-glass-oil-rig-bong-smoking-pipe/211852248.html

http://www.dhgate.com/product/2014-...ong-birdcage/214701656.html#s1-0-1|3246569647

http://cdn1.bigcommerce.com/n-yp39j...7711240442c_l__53850.1382654409.1280.1280.jpg

Do not want to take away the work from anybody but I thought I'd contribute some

 

[blankrider]

Thank you @oli! Looking great!

I also would like to let everyone know that you do not have to spent anywhere near as much money as me to know about glass. All I ask is that you have decent experience with a design before you start pushing it really hard. There is a LHS within an hour of me with lots of high end glass and allows water test with distilled water. It is very nice to be able to feel how a piece pulls workout having to spend hundreds and find out you don't like it. If any of you have a shop that allows water test go there and test things. Things that you could never afford. Some will be more enjoyable then others. Post on here what was good and what was not to help.

Personal experience will always be better than seeing pictures and videos assuming something is worth purchase