Cory Glass Designs re/incyclers - high function and affordable?
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Caligula
Maximus
IMO you want less diffusion regardless of if it's for oil or vapor. High diffusion pieces are intended for smoking flowers if you ask me. As most of you know it doesn't take a lot of water or diffusion to smooth out a vape hit.
Related: this is why I like my EFS double gridded donut. Only the top slits fire when I'm vaping but all will fire on the clear. Saves flavor and aids in clearing the hit. Best of both worlds IMO.
Related: this is why I like my EFS double gridded donut. Only the top slits fire when I'm vaping but all will fire on the clear. Saves flavor and aids in clearing the hit. Best of both worlds IMO.
sasNW
Well-Known Member
No worries, I figured it was just a general statement. When I'm talking about cooling, I am mostly referring to the way the water enters the 2nd can and stays in very constant contact with the vapor on my CGD piece as it spins. Like I said I am sure the 10 slit will still be great, just it doesn't make sense for me to go to a higher perc even if it doesn't make much a difference. Also only 6 of my percs fire most the time lol, kind of a fortunate mistake for me.
Honestly I'm sure the flavor will be top notch in your recycler, I'm in no way saying the CGD recycler is better. I am just saying it is a champ for coolness and big hits. Not saying yours won't be, I would love to try it out
blankrider
Well-Known Member
Lol I also own a efs double gridded donut and it does provide quite a nice hit. I have been dreaming of getting one of his incyclers but I think they are priced too high. Still a great deal when compared to mothership though
MuushuPork
Well-Known Member
I was looking at efs sandblasting pictures and had a moment. Anyone play M. Bison in street fighter?
syrupy
Authorized Buyer
To drag this back on topic:
Today is the last day I can/will wait for a package from Cory I am reasonably certain won't come. With only 2 response s to my half-dozen KIKs over the last 60 days, there is no comfort factor in trusting that this artist will come through with my custom piece. I need the protection, and intend to use it.
I also intend to inform the FC community of how this resolves. Depending on how the dispute goes, paypal may freeze his account. People that are about to send money in for a piece might want to wait a little bit. In my experience when an account gets frozen, payments coming in are redirected to those who the account holder owes money. Considering what I know already, if this occurs, it seems unlikely Cory would complete work he won't receive money for and the new buyer is hosed and if they try to file their own dispute, sorry the account is closed. When ebay sellers go south this way, they take a lot of innocent buyers down with them.
Can @Stu or a mod chime in and let us know if there is any rule violation if I post the phone number and physical address of the business (public record)? Also I would like to post a timeline of the comunications without direct quotes, as an objective record of the transaction. I know you all prefer those kinds of questions be asked in PM, but I think the answer deserves a wider distribution. In the last few months, the Glass forum has been blowing up with threads about 'up-and-comers', 'hot shots', you name it. With so many new blowers, I can see the need for delineation about what we can say if a transaction goes south.
Back to the topic, I can think of no better summation than what a formerly active member of this forum said about the situation, that Cory is ruining his brand with this behavior, and it's sad.
From this thread, we can guess that the majority of transactions with CGD pull off OK. I think I'm the only person so far that didn't receive anything for their money or any explanation. Odds may be in the buyer's favor, but it is a risky transaction, and if there are problems I wouldn't expect Cory to do anything.
Even sadder, some of the posts in this thread about my situation sounded like blaming the victim (both me and others). I lost a lot of respect for a few folks that I perceive as enablers, and had to drag out the ignore button for the first time.
Good luck everyone. If people don't want to hear any more from me about the subject please let me know, but I thought it could be a good learning experience. for all. I've logged 2500 paypal transactions as buyer and seller (recovering ebay/amazon addict), and I've had to file disputes maybe two dozen times. The only transaction more sketchy than this one involved acquiring intellectual property from a seller in an Eastern European country. Even that seller, who obviously spoke little English and must have been using Google Translate for emails, communicated far better than Cory. I find that telling.
Today is the last day I can/will wait for a package from Cory I am reasonably certain won't come. With only 2 response s to my half-dozen KIKs over the last 60 days, there is no comfort factor in trusting that this artist will come through with my custom piece. I need the protection, and intend to use it.
I also intend to inform the FC community of how this resolves. Depending on how the dispute goes, paypal may freeze his account. People that are about to send money in for a piece might want to wait a little bit. In my experience when an account gets frozen, payments coming in are redirected to those who the account holder owes money. Considering what I know already, if this occurs, it seems unlikely Cory would complete work he won't receive money for and the new buyer is hosed and if they try to file their own dispute, sorry the account is closed. When ebay sellers go south this way, they take a lot of innocent buyers down with them.
Can @Stu or a mod chime in and let us know if there is any rule violation if I post the phone number and physical address of the business (public record)? Also I would like to post a timeline of the comunications without direct quotes, as an objective record of the transaction. I know you all prefer those kinds of questions be asked in PM, but I think the answer deserves a wider distribution. In the last few months, the Glass forum has been blowing up with threads about 'up-and-comers', 'hot shots', you name it. With so many new blowers, I can see the need for delineation about what we can say if a transaction goes south.
Back to the topic, I can think of no better summation than what a formerly active member of this forum said about the situation, that Cory is ruining his brand with this behavior, and it's sad.
From this thread, we can guess that the majority of transactions with CGD pull off OK. I think I'm the only person so far that didn't receive anything for their money or any explanation. Odds may be in the buyer's favor, but it is a risky transaction, and if there are problems I wouldn't expect Cory to do anything.
Even sadder, some of the posts in this thread about my situation sounded like blaming the victim (both me and others). I lost a lot of respect for a few folks that I perceive as enablers, and had to drag out the ignore button for the first time.
Good luck everyone. If people don't want to hear any more from me about the subject please let me know, but I thought it could be a good learning experience. for all. I've logged 2500 paypal transactions as buyer and seller (recovering ebay/amazon addict), and I've had to file disputes maybe two dozen times. The only transaction more sketchy than this one involved acquiring intellectual property from a seller in an Eastern European country. Even that seller, who obviously spoke little English and must have been using Google Translate for emails, communicated far better than Cory. I find that telling.
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MuushuPork
Well-Known Member
Even if you have to pm me im interested.
syrupy
Authorized Buyer
Good deal. If I don't hear from a mod with clarification, it will have to be a PM topic, and maybe better there anyway. I wrestle with trying to make sure I'm trying to inform and warn people, versus just being a dick with a personal beef. Sometimes it's a fine line.
FlyingLow
Team NO SLEEP!
I did not need to hear your experience to sway me away from this guy... Your story is not unique. He has strung along a bunch of people and has customer-confirmed awful communications. He is just not the sort of guy I like to send money to.
If he has done this to a lot of buyers, it will not be long before he gets brought to a small claims court.
If he has done this to a lot of buyers, it will not be long before he gets brought to a small claims court.
Syrupy, as long as you keep it factual and limit it to information that can help the rest of FC, I don't see why you can't make a public post about this. Please just keep it to one post for the public record, and not the start of a major thread derail. I'm sure someone will report the post if it breaks any rules in any case.
syrupy
Authorized Buyer
Smart man. It's interesting how things devolved from when Herr_Dampf was getting daily pics sent as updates.
Small claims is a possibility. I have a friend who's learned to skirt the line between nuisance suits and activism. In a way it's unfortunate for both he and I that he chose me to give me the impression of fraud in our business, but if I have to be the instrument of learning all around, I am OK with that.
When I get done with this post, I'll be filing the complaint and elevating it to as dispute. If there is a pattern here, the people who file complaints once the account is closed are the true victims. I'm headed for the life rafts. Let someone else re-arrange the deck chairs on this Titanic.
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MuushuPork
Well-Known Member
I would be doing the same thing you would syrupy. I think its easy to assume hes just a flake, and that doesnt excuse this, but I don't think there is any ill-will. Hes just business-non-savvy.
Edit: ALL STRICTLY MY OPINION.
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syrupy
Authorized Buyer
The best would be if he would compensate me for my time of looking through his work and coming up with a design, as well as the time value of having my money tied up. I expect this compensation to take the form of Cory completing the custom work he agreed to and accepted money for, and I expect upon his completing the piece, to be given both a picture of the work, the shipping label, and an invoice for 50% of the agreed cost. Upon these conditions, I will relinquish any civil or criminal interest in the matter.
Assuming those terms are unsatisfactory, I will pursue a small claims case for the leagl limit in California of $10,000 for fraud and punitive damages allowed by law. In addition I will make sure Paypal is apprised of the facts and allow them to decide if the sller will be able to accept Paypal in the future. (My experience is PP is fairly brutal when they are unhappy). Furthermore, should my case prevail civilly, I will forward it to the appropriate District Attorney's Office for consideration as a criminal matter.
I also look forward to the swift resolution of this unfortunate incident.
Sincerely,
syrupy
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In addition, CGD's choice of specific career has its own liabilities that he seems unwilling to acknowledge that could bite a blower who goes rogue. This is what happens when a blower disrespects the work, the customer, and himself. Don't tread on me.
syrupy
Authorized Buyer
If we were talking about anyone else, I'd completely agree.
The nice thing about the paypal complaint process is it forces the seller to read what the buyer is having a problem with. They have to read it when they log in. In the case of a seller such as this who won't respond to emails or texts, it's the only way I know, short of dragging them to court, to force them to listen and fix things.
Radio
stay true to yourselves
@syrupy
I see where you are coming from syrupy, and to be honest; most days I felt as if I was JUST skimming on the 'lucky' side of this transaction.. If for whatever reason he went more than 3 or 4 weeks without messaging me it would tick something off inside my head and I'd lose my shit! But he has always managed to message me just before I started feeling left out in the cold, and it was always coming from a genuine place.
He has given me explanations as well which I am also thankful for, but I feel as if that was because I accepted the communication (or lack of
) aspect of his buissness, and played it cool. I spent a day or two thinking about HOW to say things, and was careful not to overload him. I didn't tip-toe around, but I was cautious not to jeopardise my chances of falling out of grace with him and inevitable lose the chance to get the glass of my dreams. Lots of pleases and thank yous, I was always clear that he could take as MUCH time as he wanted, and emphasised that it was at his discretion to update me on things or to just to contact me only when he needed to.
It was a slow game to play, and hopefully it's worth it. I have no qualms so far with the time it's taken, and he has told me that he was very busy but doing his best to keep pace, and has always thanked me for being patient.
According to what he has told me, my piece could be ready any day. I hope none of this paypal dispute stuff disrupts his transactions with anyone else, or gives him a reason to give other FC members a bad experience as you have had.
I hope it works out for you. When was the last message you received from him? My last message from him was 1 week ago I think. It'd be a shame if he was replying to some and not to others.
Peace out all
I see where you are coming from syrupy, and to be honest; most days I felt as if I was JUST skimming on the 'lucky' side of this transaction.. If for whatever reason he went more than 3 or 4 weeks without messaging me it would tick something off inside my head and I'd lose my shit! But he has always managed to message me just before I started feeling left out in the cold, and it was always coming from a genuine place.
He has given me explanations as well which I am also thankful for, but I feel as if that was because I accepted the communication (or lack of
) aspect of his buissness, and played it cool. I spent a day or two thinking about HOW to say things, and was careful not to overload him. I didn't tip-toe around, but I was cautious not to jeopardise my chances of falling out of grace with him and inevitable lose the chance to get the glass of my dreams. Lots of pleases and thank yous, I was always clear that he could take as MUCH time as he wanted, and emphasised that it was at his discretion to update me on things or to just to contact me only when he needed to.It was a slow game to play, and hopefully it's worth it. I have no qualms so far with the time it's taken, and he has told me that he was very busy but doing his best to keep pace, and has always thanked me for being patient.
According to what he has told me, my piece could be ready any day. I hope none of this paypal dispute stuff disrupts his transactions with anyone else, or gives him a reason to give other FC members a bad experience as you have had.
I hope it works out for you. When was the last message you received from him? My last message from him was 1 week ago I think. It'd be a shame if he was replying to some and not to others.
Peace out all
blankrider
Well-Known Member
I should have bet on this shit!
I tried to tell you guys but nobody wanted to listen. I cannot believe how far some of you went to defend his shady business practices. Shame!
Look how quickly a good artist with good communication can gather a followingOh, you want someone new who has no following yet. Each to their own.
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/d...y-recyceler-at-a-very-reasonable-price.15007/
sasNW
Well-Known Member
Despite me thinking other FCers will not be purchasing from Cory, I was not kidding when I said my next piece will be from him again. I'm not saying others should wait or deal with the lack of communication, but for me I could not care less. After receiving my piece I knew right away I loved his style, with the few guidelines I gave him I can't imagine it turning out better. I love the dudes artistic style, and I personally have so much stuff going on with life that as long as I get the glass I paid for I will be a happy customer. For me it's as simple as if I get what I paid for, we are square.
My dab pieces coming from vaped&confused were paid for not long after my recycler, and I'm not expecting them for another month at least. And again I don't care at all, for me these are pieces I plan to keep for life(knock on wood) so another month or 2 is nothing in the grand scheme of things. I'd rather have a great artistic piece for 15.5 years over a pretty cool one for 16. Everyone over there loves them and a couple asked for the same treatment of him only working on their next order when he's in "artist mode", I just hope they don't expect them anytime soon if you go that route.
Just different strokes for different folks, but until I find someone to do the custom work like Cory's, it's a perfect fit for me personally. Again I am not defending him in anyway, it's just for me communication is a non issue. For others it's a big thing and I totally get them going elsewhere.
blankrider
Well-Known Member
I get where you are going but to compare vaped&confused is crazy. Even if v&c takes longer to make something you can rest assured that he will answer your messages within a day or two. Sometimes within minutes!
Joda is actually working on something for me right now that I paid for like a month ago. My steam roller gong combo designed by @2clicker . But even though it has been a while he still keeps in touch and has sent some progress photos. We have even talked about non glass related stuff. Very cool guy.
If it were not for this fact I doubt people would be telling him to take his time and wait for inspiration. @VaPeD&CoNfUsEd is a beloved member of our community. Him and Cory are like night and day
Joda is actually working on something for me right now that I paid for like a month ago. My steam roller gong combo designed by @2clicker . But even though it has been a while he still keeps in touch and has sent some progress photos. We have even talked about non glass related stuff. Very cool guy.
If it were not for this fact I doubt people would be telling him to take his time and wait for inspiration. @VaPeD&CoNfUsEd is a beloved member of our community. Him and Cory are like night and day
sasNW
Well-Known Member
I have nothing but great things to say about @VaPeD&CoNfUsEd not sure how you construed that as negative? I was simply saying I have no issue waiting on a piece. I'm also not sure how it's crazy to compare wait times on glass? From my experience I have received the same number of messages back from the artists. V&C has certainly always been quicker with the response. Again it's pretty simple IMO, I paid for glass and am waiting (happily).... So enlighten me on how this is different when I have said that an update means nothing to me?
I think you're getting me wrong, I'm not defending anyone, his way of business just doesn't bother me for my lifestyle. I TOTALY get why people don't agree and have issues with him, I am just very laid back and as long as I receive my product I am happy. Again I also have nothing but great things to say about JODA, he's doing exactly what I have asked and I will certainly be a long time customer. Different strokes brother, different strokes
cybrguy
Putin is a War Criminal
Give me odds and I will still make this bet. How much?
I have never defended his bad communication. I think it is unfortunate. I just don't really care about it very much. I want his work, I'm not interested in swapping spit with him.
I think that's great, and I hope he does well and creates great glass. I also hope he has good business and communication skills. Would the latter be necessary for me to engage in the former. Not so much... For me. YMMV
You needn't take this so personally. I'm not calling you an idiot or anything like that. We just have different interests and standards. Mine are just as valid as yours, they are just different.
I really do think these are growing pains. We are partly responsible for them because WE are the ones who threw him more business than he could handle. I wish he had been able to handle it better, but I am not going to throw him away because he didn't. And I bet there are several people here who feel similarly and will likely continue to do business with him. Literally.