Consider New Technology - Pyrolysis is sweet spot between vape and combustion

Perfect_Speed4069

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You should get your health and safety information from a qualified source, which does not include this forum.
Mate, this isn't going to end well. You've started a thread, asked for opinions and decided to take issue with the options of the folks who replied. This isn't Twitter or Reddit. We don't pick fights. There's also a whole bunch of back story on not discussing safety of materials. Genuinely, read up, consider, and then come back to this discussion. For now, digging in won't end well. Best of luck.
 
Mate, this isn't going to end well. You've started a thread, asked for opinions and decided to take issue with the options of the folks who replied. This isn't Twitter or Reddit. We don't pick fights. There's also a whole bunch of back story on not discussing safety of materials. Genuinely, read up, consider, and then come back to this discussion. For now, digging in won't end well. Best of luck.
Please stay on topic: pyrolysis

It was done when the Dr dabber switch came out in 2018 so 7 years ish ago.:tup:
Please point me to documentation of that so that the info can be forwarded to patent examiner.
 
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Custom Flower Hardware

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It's king at it! Basically it's herb mode is all it does. I suggest looking in the thread for info that you need. Good luck in your endeavor :tup:
 
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I would like to remind everyone that our first rule is Be Nice. Please don't insult people or their questions. Please be kind to new folks.

Happy to hand out points if it becomes an issue. Right now it is right up to the line.
 

Ramahs

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I've seen "pyrolysis" claimed by a few new vape-makers here over the years that I've been into this vaporizing hobby, but it never seemed to amount to much. Also the sellers making the claim seem to always be very confrontational with anyone on here who questions their claims.

It's very odd every time.
 

Andreaerdna

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Nothing, except silver, can match copper's heat conductivity, and it it is totally safe as having been used in cookware for many many decades.

I have some copper cookware, but the food isn’t in contact with copper (copper is lined with other « safer » metals to avoid that, like Vapman) and while the copper outer part of the casserole is in contact with a blue flame, it rarely pass 100*C as there are many ways of dissipation (its huge radiating mass and the food inside, boiling and evaporating).
in your device copper should reach higher temps, so maybe it is not the same-same

I also use copper in the garden, to kill fungus and other micro organisms and protect my veggies, it is not safe to inhale that

again, different applications different risks…

also: pyrolisis or charring tastes really awful IMO
 
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potatobass

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Hello! Just throwing my 2 cents here....
It's been 20years since I switched to vaporization, and I still consider that the main advantage is to be able to taste those delicious terpens in all their complexity. Never felt like I was wasting precious cannabinoids.
I kinda doubt any seasoned vaporist will sacrifice taste for more extraction , especially with todays vaporizers performances.
However, if this device work as described , it could be interesting for someone who want to quit combustion.

Just to say that you might be preaching the wrong crowd here since , IMHO, your target audience probably don't hang out here.

Anyway , best of luck with your product launch!!
Always good to see new approach.
 
potatobass,

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Please stay on topic: pyrolysis
Well, an interesting alternative take on vaping for sure.
Sadly, you're making some major league claims that you've not explained, or provided any references that you've used as resources to your thoughts (e.g. how do you know all the definitive claims you're basing this on?).

Some of the comments are not very scientific - e.g. "It takes a tremendous amount of energy to transform a liquid into a gas, and heated air is a poor means of transferring heat to the essential oil in the dried herb."
This doesn't really say anything about what's going on. You're talking about heat of vapourisation, but not describing it correctly, just saying something is enormous says little with nothing to compare against or quantify, and all vapes have to achieve this. It's not helping to understand what you're trying to say. And why is heated air a poor means of transferring heat (i.e. convection)? And with respect to what?

Also, how have you determined the amounts of terpenoids being extracted from the weed in normal vapes at a range of temps vs. your device, so as to provide empirical comparisons to show the advantages and quantify them? In addition, how are you measuring the output to compare between a normal vape and your device? I would imagine you'd need to be passing the vapour through a gas chromatograph to see the components and quantities. How can you tell whether only pyrolysis is taking place and no oxidation is occurring (see previous comment - chromatograph and/or spectrometry analysis probably required).

You ideas sound interesting, but the descriptions given are not convincing (which doesn't mean your thoughts don't have value, just that I can't assess that value without real data on how all your conclusions have been discovered and how accurate they may or may not be).

I could go through your OP bit by bit on specific parts but I don't think that would be especially engaging to read or helpful, frankly, and would just produce reams of boring text, so I just threw in some examples of why I find the post hard to be more enthusiastic about without more info on sources of information and how you've come to your conclusions. Just saying something without that appears to be an opinion more than anything.
 
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seedy53

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dr dabber og switch uses this method and many users i've had conversations with, say it does not do well for flower vaping. idk but this is something i found a bit shocking result to me. esp about the praise i read about this process on this thread.
 
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