Concentrates for Noobs - Q&A

[CrazyDiamond]

As did I @NickDlow , I knew nothing a few months ago...I am truly humbled by the knowledge here and it is an honor to be in the presence of such forward thinkers; their keen intellect and the use of the scientific method, truly instills a sense of awe in the newly educated in this field; what an incredible community.

About the company stuff, lol, it ain't me, it's @2clicker who first suggested the company
I was merely pointing out the strengths I saw in the people of the company.

BTW..I like those Optima's a lot...nice ride

Back to the
Damn, we are way off...I just realized why my oil is coming out a little gooier than before...I really thought hard about each step of my tek...I realized I had progressively gotten a little more aggressive each time with the iso rinse (shaking ans swirling when I should just swirl)...lesson learned. Also, as was suggested to me, the padawan, by my master (you know who you are, lol), I froze the initial purged oil for a day, removed and brought to 105*F within a minute for a half hour. Let cool and sit for a day and now it is a much better consistency. The next run I will freeze initial iso extract for a day and re-filter through 10 micron ss filter and then purge/evap.

 

[NickDlow]

So the winterizing and u said ur going to re filter.. Is this all being done while the extract is in the solid form? Are u just adding the ISO/KX/WT to the concentrate?

N thanks @CrazyDiamond im very happy with her!

 

[CrazyDiamond]

It's the liquid form of the extract...rinse flower with iso>filter through ss kitchen filter with the liquid away from the flower within 20 seconds>then filter that through 50 micron>then filter through 10 micron>evap/purge on oil slick pad in 8x8 square pyrex on my hotplate> and that would usually be it. Added that last stuff to help with me being to aggressive during initial rinse so I can better consistency of oil....crap, I gotta go to sleep...till tomorrow.

 

[herbivore21]

im getting a little over 400 miles a tank, but i am fully ready to go full electric.





haha leave it to me to propose such a notion w/out any idea of where to start. i have started a business in the recent past, but not sure how we could easily join forces w/out spilling the beans live online in public.



i myself am interested in producing tools to make EO use easy and efficient. i have been eying up some of those small desktop CNC machines for machining of small parts for something like dab focused RDAs and different types of coils. the evap chamber thread has some good ideas being discussed in there for easier/safer production tools. who knows...?

just things to make this shit easier for everyone else.

let me be the first to step forward as a test monkey for the "2click dab handle" cause I just dont get the ecig stuff. I try and read the threads on it and just

can someone just put a stick in my hand so I can dab without tasting a dry wick ass when I need to add a dab!

now extraction I can talk your leg off and make it walk in the other room and take a dab!
or so I like to think pfff what a dumbass!

ive spent so much time thinking ecig shit I forgot to make more dabs!

LMAO...I must be super buzzed, but some stuff you guys just posted made me seriously lol!!!

I mean company wise, first thing is, we need to figure out strong points each person brings...@farscaper has made it clear that extract wise he can blow doors...and I'm inclined to agree with that (as is these guys knowledge on the subject @DieHard , @NickDlow @herbivore21 , @2clicker . @Caligula and @I'mTooF'NHighandBuzzed2RemEveryBody)....hehe...although @herbivore21 seems to be going on his on...it's cool bro...aussie aussie oy oy oy I and @PoopMachine are your IT guys(and more I'm sure). The other guys can chime in as my memory is fading in and out as I type.

And as far as the gas mileage stuff...mine is one of the ultimate gas guzzlers, lol and I'm sure you can see why...(middle aged crisis, lol)

Kenwood Head Unit with a cool readout I get from OBDII data bus

Junk in the trunk

I probably shouldn't have put all this here and I'm trying to show off or anything...just illustrating why my focus has turned from what you see to what we are doing here and that I do indeed get really bad gas mileage...but I understood that when I got it...again, mid age crisis, lol (but I had one before too, hehe).

mods, if inappropriate, feel free to delete.

Hi all, what is this company idea exactly?

As has been indicated, I do have tech which I am seeking to find a way to commercialize. However, the abovementioned issue of doing this in some way that we aren't just spilling teh beanz online for all to see is my concern. Frankly, I'd love to work with others with some expertise/ability/aptitude to contribute. Especially FC members!

Still, once cat leaves bag, cat is reluctant to reenter said bag (And for stoned philosophizers: What came first, the cat or the bag?). This is the problem!

Also, please do not take my absence in this thread in recent times as my not wanting to be a part of such things! Some may note that I have been absent from FC in general quite a bit lately (and if we're honest, life in general). This is due to various major personal problems that have come up recently and correspondingly; my mood disorder/anxiety flaring up.

Participating in a project with some of you guys could really be what I need to get myself out of bed each day again. Please understand that I do need to very closely guard my IP, but I would love to have my tech become a part of a more comprehensive system still, which leaves nothing to chance for the would-be home extract artist.

So, here is the question:

Who would like to be involved in such a project, and what ideas/expertise/aptitude do you have to offer?

I have a reliable, cheap, safe and very fast method for purging solvents. You guys have all seen my results. Most of these results were achieved within 3-4 hours of starting the wash! There are other benefits to my tech, but I don't want to share too much for fear of the aforementioned proverbial cat escaping its bag.

Alternatively, if you guys have some other idea of a project to put forward, please let me know if you think there is anything I might offer I am happy to be a part of such a venture so long as we can come to agreeable terms!

 

[NickDlow]

I don't have the most experience or expertise but I have the willingness to learn and could come up with an idea or two to contribute. Also a little financial backing too and access to (I know everyone says it) some of the best starting materials and if this were going 100% I'd be happy to get it tested. I just haven't because idc about numbers, I can feel/taste the quality. But if this is legit I'm in!

 

[farscaper]

I'm with @2clicker on the conservative side lol I just picked up a 13 Kia Optima SXL 4-cylinder turbo the other week. I haven't done anything to it but I'm content it has all the bells n whistles and gets 22-34 mpg. Idk what to do I like cars but I'm no mechanic by any means. Anyway we are way off topic lol

Thanks @CrazyDiamond but I learned everything I know from all these fine ppl of FC. But hey I'm down for this bussiness even tho im still unsure what's going on lol but I'm game!!

Also do they have a car thread here to continue that totally off topic convo we are having lol

wait... I thought we were starting a used car lot

Hi all, what is this company idea exactly?

As has been indicated, I do have tech which I am seeking to find a way to commercialize. However, the abovementioned issue of doing this in some way that we aren't just spilling teh beanz online for all to see is my concern. Frankly, I'd love to work with others with some expertise/ability/aptitude to contribute. Especially FC members!

Still, once cat leaves bag, cat is reluctant to reenter said bag (And for stoned philosophizers: What came first, the cat or the bag?). This is the problem!

Also, please do not take my absence in this thread in recent times as my not wanting to be a part of such things! Some may note that I have been absent from FC in general quite a bit lately (and if we're honest, life in general). This is due to various major personal problems that have come up recently and correspondingly; my mood disorder/anxiety flaring up.

Participating in a project with some of you guys could really be what I need to get myself out of bed each day again. Please understand that I do need to very closely guard my IP, but I would love to have my tech become a part of a more comprehensive system still, which leaves nothing to chance for the would-be home extract artist.

So, here is the question:

Who would like to be involved in such a project, and what ideas/expertise/aptitude do you have to offer?

I have a reliable, cheap, safe and very fast method for purging solvents. You guys have all seen my results. Most of these results were achieved within 3-4 hours of starting the wash! There are other benefits to my tech, but I don't want to share too much for fear of the aforementioned proverbial cat escaping its bag.

Alternatively, if you guys have some other idea of a project to put forward, please let me know if you think there is anything I might offer I am happy to be a part of such a venture so long as we can come to agreeable terms!

hmmm I see your points. ive never had capital. or rather investment capital. so ive never bothered keeping knowledge to myself...

but maybe im wrong... maybe that is exactly why I've gotten screwed in situations where I was open with what I know...
oh how ive been shat upon for explaining the inner workings of things to managers and coworkers...

its in my nature to be kinda like that... but...

perhaps it is time to draw the string on the bag.... keep a focused and sharp eye on a keen future... that of which I will likely never see due to financial strife.

hmm a perplexed conundrum indeed.

I hate mornings. give me a happy afternoon anyday!

edit:@herbivore21 feel well dude! ive been under the weather myself last few.... it seems like months.

 

[herbivore21]

"oh how ive been shat upon for explaining the inner workings of things to managers and coworkers..." Ain't that the truth my friend! I have had this happen to me, and worse still, seen it happen to older colleagues whose careers were ended by this. It is an awful shame to watch!

I am happy to collaborate and develop other aspects here, and happy to if possible given above considerations even incorporate my existing tech into something if it can be an all-encompassing solution for the application

Also cheers man, I am doing my darnedest!

 

[2clicker]

do yall know if there is a way to do a group PM...?

 

[farscaper]

do yall know if there is a way to do a group PM...?

add multiple participants I think. never tried it before though.

edit, I dont have a clue now actually lol

 

[Caligula]

I think it's broken. I've tried it before. Probably best everyone do Skype messages or something

 

[spoutti]

Hi all, what is this company idea exactly?

As has been indicated, I do have tech which I am seeking to find a way to commercialize. However, the abovementioned issue of doing this in some way that we aren't just spilling teh beanz online for all to see is my concern. Frankly, I'd love to work with others with some expertise/ability/aptitude to contribute. Especially FC members!

Still, once cat leaves bag, cat is reluctant to reenter said bag (And for stoned philosophizers: What came first, the cat or the bag?). This is the problem!

Also, please do not take my absence in this thread in recent times as my not wanting to be a part of such things! Some may note that I have been absent from FC in general quite a bit lately (and if we're honest, life in general). This is due to various major personal problems that have come up recently and correspondingly; my mood disorder/anxiety flaring up.

Participating in a project with some of you guys could really be what I need to get myself out of bed each day again. Please understand that I do need to very closely guard my IP, but I would love to have my tech become a part of a more comprehensive system still, which leaves nothing to chance for the would-be home extract artist.

So, here is the question:

Who would like to be involved in such a project, and what ideas/expertise/aptitude do you have to offer?

I have a reliable, cheap, safe and very fast method for purging solvents. You guys have all seen my results. Most of these results were achieved within 3-4 hours of starting the wash! There are other benefits to my tech, but I don't want to share too much for fear of the aforementioned proverbial cat escaping its bag.

Alternatively, if you guys have some other idea of a project to put forward, please let me know if you think there is anything I might offer I am happy to be a part of such a venture so long as we can come to agreeable terms!

Hi @herbivore21

I have to share with you. For the last month or so, I have been screening fc forums to get all the infos needed to produce some concentrate. I want to see if and how it can replace my herb needs. And both your qwet and qwiso tread were great source of information for me. Thank you.

Backtracking the persei tread, because I need one to fully experiment with concentrate, I liked a lot of your posts. Your begginer position ressembles mine. Ethanol is expensive in canada, but half your price in ozzy. Still, 60$/litre compared to 10$/litre iso would be a nice saving. That and being able to use/reuse oil slick pads infinitely vs ptfe rolls. Ptfe pads testing comming soon from @CrazyDiamond.

But im afraid I will fuckup with iso. And shortening purging time is one thing I want to upgrade for my next run. I feel if you shared your more recent exp I would get good results.

But here is my problem. I dont go out a lot. I spent work days inside home. For the last 5 years since I started playing online poker. I dont feel confident reaching out to get new friends. I have never understood and liked to communicate by "chatting"; so I dont connect with the majority of internet dwellers. I still operate with letter style expression (like here!) and phone calls where I do my equivalent of "chatting". Or at a dinner table is the best. I get a feeling of being part of a group on fc. Mostly lurking, but I try to share when I feel I have something to share. But here, I feel like at my 2nd home. My friends irl dont medicate, dont care about my findings. Here, I feel accepted.

Your post threatens my being part of a group feeling. 2 days of silence in this tread since you launched your idea of a private select group feeds my fear. And trying to follow your lead and try to include myself in that select group is out of my league. What is in my league is sharing my experience letter style on a forum. Spending a lot of time scanning forums for infos. Adding to brainstorming process. Applying complicated process ocd style. Putting a few hundreads $ (wich is already done so far) happily in the name of experimenting to get the best fastest results.

Here is little contribution I havent read so far that should be good for iso. Freezing the iso in a container you can instant pour in the mason jar with buds to even iso to herb exposition instead of direct from the slow pouring bottle.

I dont understand how your want to commercialise your secret qwiso tech, but I dont expect an answer. How to sell an idea with copyrights? Its not like you can say you will produce and sell your concentrate so thats the reason you are keeping your tech secret. And I dont think you came up with a new scientific process never applyied elsewhere. I think you gave a lot of hints in the qwiso tread and speaking with a schooled industrial scientific guy (wich I dont have in my entourage ) could conclude with a similar tech to yours'. I understand poker players (my world!) charging their time, because you make nice money with the infos. When learned, they become competition. But qwiso tech? I cant grasp the buisness plan it could work on.

But in your case, I see more positive for you to share. Having random mostly lurkers like me repeat the exact steps you propose and sharing subtely enhancing comments. Or finding a new variable in the process climate wise. Having hundreads of watchers that might share extras instead of a small group.

Others sharing their love and appreciation for what you shared. That should be a good pick me up in the morning! You would multiply that probability x fold!

But here is the other side of the medal, relying purely on ego feedings is an ointment to sooth the hurt soul, not a long term solution.

Another contribution I can make out of fc subjects is playing the devils advocate. Im not good at saying poor you, its not your fault, the system did this to you. Although sometimes those are the only things I can say. But im an expert at finding solutions for the good of everybody, look at a situation from a different angle. Service offered through voice communications only

That was what I had on my heart. I was busy the last 2 days, but I put a lot of thoughts on this. I have a tendancy to make people feel responsible for my emotionnal reactions and I hope it didnt come out like this. I tried to express my wants, my separation feeling from this group since your post with good for everybody solutions.

I wish your life hurdles have stoped, or at least lessened, and life learning from them outweights the initial negative experience.

And I wish we can keep this tread and idea sharing open to everybody

edits: few missing letters corrected to correctly express myself

 

[herbivore21]

Hi @herbivore21

I have to share with you. For the last month or so, I have been screening fc forums to get all the infos needed to produce some concentrate. I want to see if and how it can replace my herb needs. And both your qwet and qwiso tread were great source of information for me. Thank you.

Backtracking the persei tread, because I need one to fully experiment with concentrate, I liked a lot of your posts. Your begginer position ressembles mine. Ethanol is expensive in canada, but half your price in ozzy. Still, 60$/litre compared to 10$/litre iso would be a nice saving. That and being able to use/reuse oil slick pads infinitely vs ptfe rolls. Ptfe pads testing comming soon from @CrazyDiamond.

But im afraid I will fuckup with iso. And shortening purging time is one thing I want to upgrade for my next run. I feel if you shared your more recent exp I would get good results.

But here is my problem. I dont go out a lot. I spent work days inside home. For the last 5 years since I started playing online poker. I dont feel confident reaching out to get new friends. I have never understood and liked to communicate by "chatting"; so I dont connect with the majority of internet dwellers. I still operate with letter style expression (like here!) and phone calls where I do my equivalent of "chatting". Or at a dinner table is the best. I get a feeling of being part of a group on fc. Mostly lurking, but I try to share when I feel I have something to share. But here, I feel like at my 2nd home. My friends irl dont medicate, dont care about my findings. Here, I feel accepted.

Your post threatens my being part of a group feeling. 2 days of silence in this tread since you launched your idea of a private select group feeds my fear. And trying to follow your lead and try to include myself in that select group is out of my league. What is in my league is sharing my experience letter style on a forum. Spending a lot of time scanning forums for infos. Adding to brainstorming process. Applying complicated process ocd style. Putting a few hundreads $ (wich is already done so far) happily in the name of experimenting to get the best fastest results.

Here is little contribution I havent read so far that should be good for iso. Freezing the iso in a container you can instant pour in the mason jar with buds to even iso to herb exposition instead of direct from the slow pouring bottle.

I dont understand how your want to commercialise your secret qwiso tech, but I dont expect an answer. How to sell an idea with copyrights? Its not like you can say you will produce and sell your concentrate so thats the reason you are keeping your tech secret. And I dont think you came up with a new scientific process never applyied elsewhere. I think you gave a lot of hints in the qwiso tread and speaking with a schooled industrial scientific guy (wich I dont have in my entourage ) could conclude with a similar tech to yours'. I understand poker players (my world!) charging their time, because you make nice money with the infos. When learned, they become competition. But qwiso tech? I cant grasp the buisness plan it could work on.

But in your case, I see more positive for you to share. Having random mostly lurkers like me repeat the exact steps you propose and sharing subtely enhancing comments. Or finding a new variable in the process climate wise. Having hundreads of watchers that might share extras instead of a small group.

Others sharing their love and appreciation for what you shared. That should be a good pick me up in the morning! You would multiply that probability x fold!

But here is the other side of the medal, relying purely on ego feedings is an ointment to sooth the hurt soul, not a long term solution.

Another contribution I can make out of fc subjects is playing the devils advocate. Im not good at saying poor you, its not your fault, the system did this to you. Although sometimes those are the only things I can say. But im an expert at finding solutions for the good of everybody, look at a situation from a different angle. Service offered through voice communications only

That was what I had on my heart. I was busy the last 2 days, but I put a lot of thoughts on this. I have a tendancy to make people feel responsible for my emotionnal reactions and I hope it didnt come out like this. I tried to express my wants, my separation feeling from this group since your post with good for everybody solutions.

I wish your life hurdles have stoped, or at least lessened, and life learning from them outweights the initial negative experience.

And I wish we can keep this tread and idea sharing open to everybody

edits: few missing letters corrected to correctly express myself

The pleasure is all mine, I am glad to have helped with past threads.

Indeed, freezing buds and materials is crucial with QWISO, and a step that I myself use. Freeze for at least 6 hours, I like to leave it overnight though!

This is something that can indeed be commercialized. As you can see how someone would pay an online poker player to win them money, you should also be able to see how someone who has developed technology that speeds up production time for a very sought after and already very profitable commodity could also make a lot of money for an interested party. You have your field of expertise, I have mine

I apologise that you have felt excluded though man, this is definitely not something I want going on! To be honest, I haven't been online so much in this thread the last few days because I have been extremely busy these past couple days. Today will be no different! Please stick around, there will be plenty more to be shared here in this thread, including from me. Nobody has peeled away into a private group never to contribute again!

Still, I hope you can appreciate that I live in one of the most expensive cities in the world, I work in an industry where our employment is increasingly casual, without pay during medical leave (where I'm at right now) or pay during the holidays. I didn't ask to be part of this dirty capitalist game, but I gotta eat too brother!

One pointer for your method:

When you do your QWISO, keep the wash EXTREMELY short 10-30 seconds depending on factors like the ambient temperature (when using buds, if you use high quality bubble hash, you can wash considerably longer). When filtering/draining the solution, make sure you have levels of filters so that a higher micron mesh or sieve separates the buds from the liquid ASAP. Remember that filtration time counts as wash time, and is the difference between great shatter and darker goopy stuff full of plant matter!

I hope this has helped you to understand my position. Please understand that my recent lack of posting here is nothing to do with wanting to bogart information, just to do with the recent trouble I've been having!

Peace.

 

[farscaper]

@spoutti dont sweat it dude. no secret club knights templar here.

We're to stoned to figure out the PM system lol.

so I have to continue waiting to get grips on the vintage Grimlin I so wanted!


@CrazyDiamond posted a video I saw of the ptfe 400ml evap dish and it seems flexible! im definitely interested in picking them up.... a 100ml runs $20 basically and $40+ for the 400ml.
I don't know if an evap test has been performed yet though.

http://instagram.com/p/t8N8WQThFm/

still waiting on those results with bated breath!

 

[NickDlow]

the ptfe 400ml evap dish and it is quite flexible!

I just recieved my 400ml ptfe dish n bowl. Idk if they are the same ones your talking about but there is basically no flexability. At least not for peel n pull. I haven't evaped anything yet tho.

 

[2clicker]

@spoutti dont sweat it dude. no secret club knights templar here.

We're to stoned to figure out the PM system lol.

so I have to continue waiting to get grips on the vintage Grimlin I so wanted!


@CrazyDiamond posted a video I saw of the ptfe 400ml evap dish and it is quite flexible! im definitely interested in picking them up.... a 100ml runs $20 basically and $40+ for the 400ml.
I don't know if an evap test has been performed yet though.

http://instagram.com/p/t8N8WQThFm/

still waiting on those results with bated breath!

@CrazyDiamond thanks for the video! that dish looks VERY promising.

@NickDlow... what is the thickness of your dishes? i couldnt tell from the two videos, but that is the only thing i can think of being the difference. they are both 100% PTFE. its gotta be the thickness. still though ill bet they will work great. i cannot imagine shatter being very hard to peel off of those dishes. wax may be a dif story.

 

[spoutti]

The please is all mine, I am glad to have helped with past threads.

Indeed, freezing buds and materials is crucial with QWISO, and a step that I myself use. Freeze for at least 6 hours, I like to leave it overnight though!

This is something that can indeed be commercialized. As you can see how someone would pay an online poker player to win them money, you should also be able to see how someone who has developed technology that speeds up production time for a very sought after and already very profitable commodity could also make a lot of money for an interested party. You have your field of expertise, I have mine

I apologise that you have felt excluded though man, this is definitely not something I want going on! To be honest, I haven't been online so much in this thread the last few days because I have been extremely busy these past couple days. Today will be no different! Please stick around, there will be plenty more to be shared here in this thread, including from me. Nobody has peeled away into a private group never to contribute again!

Still, I hope you can appreciate that I live in one of the most expensive cities in the world, I work in an industry where our employment is increasingly casual, without pay during medical leave (where I'm at right now) or pay during the holidays. I didn't ask to be part of this dirty capitalist game, but I gotta eat too brother!

One pointer for your method:

When you do your QWISO, keep the wash EXTREMELY short 10-30 seconds depending on factors like the ambient temperature (when using buds, if you use high quality bubble hash, you can wash considerably longer). When filtering/draining the solution, make sure you have levels of filters so that a higher micron mesh or sieve separates the buds from the liquid ASAP. Remember that filtration time counts as wash time, and is the difference between great shatter and darker goopy stuff full of plant matter!

I hope this has helped you to understand my position. Please understand that my recent lack of posting here is nothing to do with wanting to bogart information, just to do with the recent trouble I've been having!

Peace.

Tx for understanding my point of view and sharing yours. Im the one responsible for my emotions. Your appologies, even though not warranted imho by your previous posting, gives me a nice understood feeling. And I hope I can give back to you like you did with your posts for me.

Enough drama from me.

My 1st and only qwet run was strained 3 times. 1st time through reg kitchen one, then through a 50 micron to separate small impurities matters still quickly. Then I used the 10 micron one and the process was slow. I thought maybe adding a 25 micron step to accelerate 25+ to 50- micron size impurities separation and the 10 micron filtering? I dont think its needed, but why not ask to be sure.

Here is a reproduction of my filtering setup. I lined the a small strainer with a 3" 10 micron screen.

@spoutti dont sweat it dude. no secret club knights templar here.

We're to stoned to figure out the PM system lol.

so I have to continue waiting to get grips on the vintage Grimlin I so wanted!


@CrazyDiamond posted a video I saw of the ptfe 400ml evap dish and it is quite flexible! im definitely interested in picking them up.... a 100ml runs $20 basically and $40+ for the 400ml.
I don't know if an evap test has been performed yet though.

http://instagram.com/p/t8N8WQThFm/

still waiting on those results with bated breath!

Tx for the love

 

[NickDlow]

Yea it has some flex but not what I'm looking for. I think I'll be using the ptfe mats when they come in. I'll post another video when I can. @CrazyDiamond what brand is ur dish?

 

[farscaper]

Tx for understanding my point of view and sharing yours. Im the one responsible for my emotions. Your appologies, even though not warranted imho by your previous posting, gives me a nice understood feeling. And I hope I can give back to you like you did with your posts for me.

Enough drama from me.

My 1st and only qwet run was strained 3 times. 1st time through reg kitchen one, then through a 50 micron to separate small impurities matters still quickly. Then I used the 10 micron one and the process was slow. I thought maybe adding a 25 micron step to accelerate 25+ to 50- micron size impurities separation and the 10 micron filtering? I dont think its needed, but why not ask to be sure.

Here is a reproduction of my filtering setup. I lined the a small strainer with a 3" 10 micron screen.




Tx for the love

I will tell it strait if you are looking for the best absolute shatter and are using alcohol, after your first filter with the 10 refreeze the alcohol and allow at least a few hours long enough to allow particles to settle and then gently pour the alcohol back off though your finest filter.
be sure to disturb the stuff at the bottom at little as possible.

you might be shocked just how much does get through those ss screens.

in my experience.

@NickDlow man... those even sound hard like ceramic kinda when you set them down in thr video it seemed...

brand may be everything with those... what manufacturer are yours?

well... for the ptfe mats!

 

[spoutti]

Thats the winterization process you describe there? I will give it a try next run. I did not have time to winterize my 1st run and the result was shatter texture. When I splitted a chunk of my concentrate material and saw shattered pieces flying, I knew I could call this shatter! But I thought if I had a shatter texture it meant I had waxes etc out of my concentrate..

Would the later washes need more this process than the 1st wash? If I understand correctly, I should have need more this process with qwiso than qwet.

Cant wait to hear about ptfe mats testing too!

 

[farscaper]

Thats the winterization process you describe there? I will give it a try next run. I did not have time to winterize my 1st run and the result was shatter texture. When I splitted a chunk of my concentrate material and saw shattered pieces flying, I knew I could call this shatter! But I thought if I had a shatter texture it meant I had waxes etc out of my concentrate..

Would the later washes need more this process than the 1st wash? If I understand correctly, I should have need more this process with qwiso than qwet.

Cant wait to hear about ptfe mats testing too!

shatter is a slang term to explain the consistency you are referring to. An absolute has been winterized and plant waxes are removed.

although homogenization of flavor will occur if winterized. means you get a generic errl flavor instead of flower bouquets.

 

[herbivore21]

Thinking I'm gonna QWET me up the last 1.3g of Bubble hash I have, since I have no shatter left and not enough buds/cash to make anything else. Ethanol is deemed ok here due to the tiny amount I will need to use with the tiny amount of bubble I am starting with. I expect to get .6-1g of great shatter back from this.

Will do the wash for a good 10-20 mins in the freezer with a few brief 20 second agitations. I will then filter in the freezer as well. I shall post results soon enough! My intention is to get absolutely EVERYTHING I can out of this starting material in one long frozen wash. I have had 60-70% returns from this bubble hash before, so wish me luck! This is all I'll be able to dab for the next week or two! Broke times!

 

[CrazyDiamond]

I'm sorry I've been away but @farscaper or @PoopMachine can let you all in...I just don't have the time. @NickDlow my dish is the ChemWare dish from Amazon but you can get in a lot of places. If you haven't seen, I posted a short, shitty video on instagram of me "flexing" the bowl (CrazyDiamondFL on instagram).

@spoutti it's cool bro and to inform you I am by far no expert...I just started doing extracting a few months ago and only started back with MJ at the beginning of the year after a looooong break. You're doing fine...and as @farscaper says, there really isn't any secret club....we all pretty much share information freely, and that is not a slight on our good friend @herbivore21; I respect what he is trying to do. Freeze, freeze, freeze...oh, and if you break up the flower at all, make sure you do that BEFORE freezing. I know this cuz I just did this...I was lazy and froze the flower, then right beofre qwisoing, I broke it up...very bad since it kinda crumbles way too much...lesson learned.

Bottom line, we are all constantly refining what we do to get what we want. Some ideas are backburner for me now until my current situation changes...to be blunt, I'm unemployed now and the assholes gave me no explanation why. In my long work life, I have NEVER been let go from a job...this is killing me right now and the stress is unbearable.

Back to my hole

 

[NickDlow]

@CrazyDiamond sorry to hear man. Sounds like a douch move on their part. Keep ur head up bro n put urself out there ur luck is sure to change. You're only down not out hang in there my man.

On another note... The flat 400ml dish is from Dynalon and my 400ml bowl is Chemware also. Both purchased on Amazon too. @farscaper yes that's exactly what u heard. But I will say the Chemware def had more flex to it. I could have applied more pressure but I didn't want to chance breaking it lol. Also that Chemware perfectly supports my folded up 6x6 10 micron SSS. Also the heat transfer is very good you lose about 10-15 degrees from the hot plate to the bottom of the ptfe dish. Even tho I kno some of u guys are trying to eliminate heat all together. Anyway mats should be here tomorrow hopefully. Stay tuned boys n girls

 

[NickDlow]

Sorry for the back to back edit has expired...

Ptfe sheet are in heres a quick "flex test"

IMO not quite the pad I'm looking for. The one for me may .02" or .01".

 

[farscaper]

its shocking how much the density of ptfe changes its malleability properties so drastically.