Cheap High Quality Bubbler

[Stu]

DHGate sells a lot of knock-off items from various sellers. People getting fake iphones and Nike's seem to be the cause of concern of DHGate being a "scam". That is probably where all the credit card chargebacks are coming from. However I don't think those fears should extend to our cheapo glass because:

A) No one is expecting a real Roor around here.
B) No one has reported any shenanigans about credit card fraud or unauthorized charges.
C) No bank is going to make you pay for an unauthorized purchase even if it were to happen.
D) There have not been any reports to my knowledge of someone not receiving their product.

I don't see any real risk in doing business with them, but as always use your own best judgement.

 

[snackmaster]

Gonna have to agree with @cybrguy and @Stu.

In any e-marketplace website there'll be good and bad sellers. Seems possible (and even likely) that dhgate has shitty buyer protections in place relative to other websites and that's why Vitolo's bank cautioned against them? Or maybe it's counterfeit goods? Either way, those seem like moot points considering sunshine's track record up to this point.

 

[ataxian]

DHGate sells a lot of knock-off items from various sellers. People getting fake iphones and Nike's seem to be the cause of concern of DHGate being a "scam". That is probably where all the credit card chargebacks are coming from. However I don't think those fears should extend to our cheapo glass because:

A) No one is expecting a real Roor around here.
B) No one has reported any shenanigans about credit card fraud or unauthorized charges.
C) No bank is going to make you pay for an unauthorized purchase even if it were to happen.

I don't see any real risk in doing business with them, but as always use your own best judgement.

Thank you for the GonG you have been a big help in my journey back to cannabis. Seriously I need this type of medication. Water path has been the new frontage! I broke expensive glass the very first session so I buy from ghgate to learn and so far since the first of the year they have been straight up with me so I don't understand all the feAR?

I have some local pieces I will use this week. 10x the cost. I can afford it no doubt however why? dhgate is providing my education. I'll buy some more expensive glass at some point however I'm just learning on the cheap stuff first.

I'll be back at some point however I'll take a vacation to cool down and let you guys figure it out!

Can I use the classifieds to sell some of my stuff? I guess I could use craig's list?

 

[biohacker]

Not sure if it's relative to Vito's post but I purchased from AliExpress about a month ago (d020 for $30 shipped) and just had my CC cancelled recently and a new one sent out due to fraudulent activity. I don't know forsure if it was due to aliexpress and it's not the first time this has happened.

 

[Delta3DStudios]

Thank you for the GonG you have been a big help in my journey back to cannabis. Seriously I need this type of medication. Water path has been the new frontage! I broke expensive glass the very first session so I buy from ghgate to learn and so far since the first of the year they have been straight up with me so I don't understand all the feAR?

I have some local pieces I will use this week. 10x the cost. I can afford it no doubt however why? dhgate is providing my education. I'll buy some more expensive glass at some point however I'm just learning on the cheap stuff first.

I'll be back at some point however I'll take a vacation to cool down and let you guys figure it out!

Can I use the classifieds to sell some of my stuff? I guess I could use craig's list?

Post in the classifieds! Or shoot - PM me - I'd gladly take some glass off your hands for a reasonable price! (I only have 2 pieces of glass currently - looking at expanding my collection!!)

 

[Tweak]

Question about clearing a bubbler. Do you need to pull out your vape for each hit to clear it like you'd pull the stem out of a bong? or is that completely unnecessary

It makes it easier. But depending on your vaporizer, the pressure from the water returning to its position after you stop drawing from it will cause the contents of your bowl/stem/wand to blow back. It gets worse towards the end of a session when the material is getting dried out and lighter.

This blow back can be stopped by screens, but IMO a screen will not completely stop 100% of your material if you do a fine grind or stir constantly.

 

[DieHard]

The best advice that I can give on the whole DHGate deal is the same advice I would give for any online transaction. Try to know as much as you can about your seller. Do not use a Debit card. Use a credit card.
Buyer beware. In most cases if it seems to be too good to be true...
Then again my DO20 for $29...
I'll still buy from dhgate.

 

[MySega]

I have had no issues with my multiple orders from dhgate. Like others have said, make sure you're buying from a trusted vendor and you should be good to go. My CC has all kinds of fraud protection and notifications so I'm not really worried.

 

[slvelocity]

I was literally about to buy the AC until I saw @Vitolo's situation. I know sunshine is reliable for you guys... has anyone successfully bought that very same 18 mm AC from them before?

http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/18-8mm-honeycomb-smoking-water-glass-percolator/175901652.html

 

[Nu11ington]

It makes it easier. But depending on your vaporizer, the pressure from the water returning to its position after you stop drawing from it will cause the contents of your bowl/stem/wand to blow back. It gets worse towards the end of a session when the material is getting dried out and lighter.

This blow back can be stopped by screens, but IMO a screen will not completely stop 100% of your material if you do a fine grind or stir constantly.

I have a Solo so I don't believe blowback would be too big of a problem?

 

[xer0]

This thing looks kind of cool.

http://m.dhgate.com/product/bicycle-shape-glass-hookah-smoking-pipe-vaporizer/182697826.html#

Also I wanted to add that I have also made several purchases on DHgate and Aliex without any issues.

 

[Tweak]

I have a Solo so I don't believe blowback would be too big of a problem?

I believe so. Abv dust can get into the solo.

Have you seen the cheap clasien adapter? You only need to lift a stopper to clear.

 

[MySega]

I was literally about to buy the AC until I saw @Vitolo's situation. I know sunshine is reliable for you guys... has anyone successfully bought that very same 18 mm AC from them before?

http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/18-8mm-honeycomb-smoking-water-glass-percolator/175901652.html

I have that ashcatcher from Sunshine. Works great and for around $20 shipped, can't beat it.

 

[cybrguy]

A) No one is expecting a real Roor around here.

Do you mean that GB-187 for $48 delivered is a fake!!! Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...

 

[Mister G]

Too many successful transactions vs very few troubled ones (just a couple kathy hu problems?) reported here, including two great purchases personally, mean I can't stop now.

FC is my ultimate litmus test and DHgate passes with flying colors with me for now.

 

[equatorgringo]

Everyone needs to shop smart and it is their responsibility to do so. Go with a vendor that has very high feedback. That's why I preach only sticking with Sunshinestore for your glass needs at DHGate. I mean it's an open market like eBay except more dangerous since it is China. Why would you buy from anyone that has little or no feedback score or has not been recommended, or at all whatsoever, if you are not familiar or comfortable?

It's aaaalmost like blaming the Nigerians because your grandma sent one of them $5,000 after reading King Solomon is their long lost uncle who is going to reward them with $60,000,000 but they just need the $5,000 to pay for the legal fees.

Internet is a sketchy place if you don't watch where your going!

 

[Vitolo]

Perhaps I was hasty in my generalization....
and the banker was young...
and the DHGate name had crossed her desk before in a negative manner.
I should not bad mouth an entire "gateway" due to those few vendors.
My post was more a report of my experience, and a statement that I would be looking elsewhere for my personal feeling of well being.
Those with positive experiences are NOT discouraged from continuing to do business with DHGate.

http://thick-quality-glass.myshopify.com/collections/ash-catchers/products/interior-honeycomb-ashcatcher-18mm
I previously owned the one you are looking for and it is nice. Since I missed it I found this and ordered during their sale......

I have done business with these guys.... Thick Ass Glass I had cause to telephone them also.... fast friendly and cool!
I bought that 5 arm bubbler that I posted a ways back from them.

 

[equatorgringo]

Perhaps I was hasty in my generalization....
and the banker was young...
and the DHGate name had crossed her desk before in a negative manner.
I should not bad mouth an entire "gateway" due to those few vendors.
My post was more a report of my experience, and a statement that I would be looking elsewhere for my personal feeling of well being.
Those with positive experiences are NOT discouraged from continuing to do business with DHGate.

I have done business with these guys.... Thick Ass Glass I had cause to telephone them also.... fast friendly and cool!
I bought that 5 arm bubbler that I posted a ways back from them.

Definitely understand when your actual bank tells you to not trust something, that would freak anyone out. I would take it with a grain of salt though, they are generalizing big time and basing their advice on the small group of their customers who weren't cautious with what they were doing, all in order to avoid any issues with their bank and DHGate. "Better to just tell everyone don't use DHGate" kinda thing seems like?

 

[olivianewtonjohn]

Well if months down the road there is a fraudulent charge then that has nothing to do with the seller you buy from and everything to do with dhgate since they are acting like the middle man with your information/$. Not saying that it is true just saying that the "depends who you buy from on dhgate" doesnt make much sense.

EDIT: From googling around dhgate has been around for awhile so I think if there was a problem we would know (just do some googling on rakuten/buy.com and you will see what I mean). Most complaints seem to be with not receive items or low quality, which isnt a problem with a good seller like sunshineglass

 

[equatorgringo]

Well if months down the road there is a fraudulent charge then that has nothing to do with the seller you buy from and everything to do with dhgate since they are acting like the middle man with your information/$. Not saying that it is true just saying that the "depends who you buy from on dhgate" doesnt make much sense.

This is true as the sellers are not swiping your card or anything what so ever, DHGate takes your payment.

 

[Magic9]

I plan on buying one or three pieces of glass in the not too distant future. I'll be sticking to SunshineStore, due to all the positive reviews here and for my own peace of mind. Might even use a prepaid Visa card so just there is no worry.

 

[slvelocity]

I have that ashcatcher from Sunshine. Works great and for around $20 shipped, can't beat it.

Do you by any chance have the d020-w? I'm looking at pictures and I'm wondering if it'll fit?

 

[Snappo]

I went through the system, and as I was trying to pay, it took me to a verification page to ask for my credit card information again.
This made me nervous, and I contacted them to delete the order and close my account.
I got no cooperation, and so since bank was open till noon today I went to the bank.
The bank manager went through this website with me, and contacted them to delete my information.
The bank advised me to not do business with DHGate.
They said they have had multitudes of contested charges that occurred a long time after credit card information was given to this business.
They went so far as to delete my credit card and issue me a new one, with a stern warning to not attempt to do business with them. They advised me that they currently have 4 open cases against fraudulent charges from DHGate.
Perhaps Sunshine store is an exception.
I am very pleased that you all have had such good luck with the company.
I however am following my banks advice, and I am out as far as that seller.
The banker took me online to show me some of the DHGate "publicity" photos.

I just had a very bad experience with DHgate/Sunshinestore. Tried to purchase 21+ D020 at quantity price as advertised. Item quantity button would not work to accept order quantities over 20. So, I contacted the seller to advise of the web page malfunction and my wish to purchase 21 units. Sunshinestore's response was that they do not sell in quantity over 20, but if I wanted to order 50+ units I could order. I told them that I didn't want 50+ units, I wanted 21 units at the price advertised plus a reasonable shipping charge. In response to my protest, they then offered each unit at $20.00, shipping included. When I placed the order for 21 units, the cost at checkout came out to be close to $23.00 per unit with the shipping (approx. $170.00 for shipping a single large carton). I contacted the seller and requested that they honor the offer they conveyed to me, and they reneged. My complaint was then lodged with DHgate HQ which turned out to be an endless fruitless merry-go-round leading to a big dead end.

Even though I bought my first and only D020 from DHgate/Sunshinestore some time ago, and it was a smooth transaction, I will never again shop at Sunshinestore.

 

[equatorgringo]

I just had a very bad experience with DHgate/Sunshinestore. Tried to purchase 21+ D020 at quantity price as advertised. Item quantity button would not work to accept order quantities over 20. So, I contacted the seller to advise of the web page malfunction and my wish to purchase 21 units. Sunshinestore's response was that they do not sell in quantity over 20, but if I wanted to order 50+ units I could order. I told them that I didn't want 50+ units, I wanted 21 units at the price advertised plus a reasonable shipping charge. In response to my protest, they then offered each unit at $20.00, shipping included. When I placed the order for 21 units, the cost at checkout came out to be close to $23.00 per unit with the shipping (approx. $170.00 for shipping a single large carton). I contacted the seller and requested that they honor the offer they conveyed to me, and they reneged. My complaint was then lodged with DHgate HQ which turned out to be an endless fruitless merry-go-round leading to a big dead end.

Even though I bought my first and only D020 from DHgate/Sunshinestore some time ago, and it was a smooth transaction, I will never again shop at Sunshinestore.

That is kind of fucked. Did DHGate get you your money back and kill the transaction?

 

[Snappo]

That is kind of fucked. Did DHGate get you your money back and kill the transaction?

I did not finalize the transaction when the excessive shipping cost became evident at Checkout. DHgate was no help at all. Their communication/language skills border on ridiculous/incompetent.