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Delta3DStudios

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Just wondering if it needs that much water to function ? Very unfamiliar with glass - but more water means less taste which is bad for me at least. Hope this isn't the case as this looks great otherwise.

In general, you are correct you want low water levels in a design, but no, a high water level is the point of the diffusion pump design. They actually have very low diffusion which retains maximum flavor from your vaporizer (or dab). The DP design is one of my more favorite perc designs for vaporizers, especially when you're a flavor savor kinda person.

That said, I'm a bit concerned about these Chinese knockoff DP's. Look at the ball in that video, is it supposed to rise and fall like that? Every official bates & worm DP I've seen seems to cause the ball to rattle around much more violently than in that video.

Anyone with the origianl B&W DP care to chime in?
 

alittledabwilldoya'

Sapphire Powered Dabstronaut.
Whoa, check out the ol' Demon Fag Egg rig:

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mrbonsai420

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Definitely going to be picking up that mothership piece - was going to say the same for that Hitman piece but then saw this other hitman piece they just added :
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Keep thinking about how good it would look all milked up from the EVO.


I may give that a shot! I was wanting to try the last Toro Jet perc with the ball that came up from Glass artist here. Never pulled the trigger but I wish I would have. I heard they hit great.

http://www.dhgate.com/product/the-n...-heavy/255417029.html#s1-0-1b;searl|700604871
 
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redcon

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So I got my shipment from stevenlmz79... There's a few issues with it. There is a rather noticeable defect at the base and a more subtle defect at the mouthpiece. The defect at the base is easily apparent from the photos. The defect at the mouthpiece was harder to capture in photos, but basically the mouthpiece slopes from the right side downwards to the left side. I would estimate the left side is probably about 1/4" lower than the right side. The first photo is from directly behind the glass as if you were getting ready to rip it with the bowl sticking straight out, and the second picture is the mirror angle.

I was just looking for some feedback from you guys. Did I get a Monday model or is this pretty much what I should expect? I'm a bit disappointed, but I also am fully aware of what I paid for this so I'm not complaining too much...

Just wondering if I should ask for an exchange, or am just as likely to get something back that is in similar to worse condition?
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Bongologist

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@redcon i find both of those to be unacceptable defects from Steven. It's one thing to get something like this from a seller we have never heard of, but Steven sells at a bit of a premium and for that price I would hope for better quality control. I have bought from about ten different stores on dhgate and find the sunshinestore and cleanclearglass the best to work with. I love that Steven is trying to work with us in building things, but I'm seeing far too many flaws lately. For the price I don't expect perfection but even on dhgate there are 'seconds' and your piece looks more like that. Having said all that, I pretty much approach all China glass purchases as buyer beware.
 
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My piece from Steven has an uneven slit on the perc. The way the cuts worked out on the matrix left a piece that's a little large but if it were cut would leave pieces too small. The overall build quality is lacking and he didn't acknowledge my request for a banger instead of a bowl, not that that's a deal breaker but SSS has been very accommodating with stuff like that. The piece from steven functions, is pretty strait and uneven slits be damned still fires well so I didn't try for a refund, but I'll probably stick with SSS and Kathy for now, CCG has come up on the radar too.
 

redcon

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Thanks for the feedback everyone. I sent Steven a message and also included a link to this page so he could see what others were saying.

I also ordered an FC-710 from Steven and I just had an opportunity to go over this piece. I cannot find any issues with it and am very pleased.

I think it's only fair I give honest feedback on this piece as well, although the more I look at the Matrix the more I am annoyed with it. The base is an obvious and blatant flaw, and the mouthpiece angle is definitely noticeable in use.
 
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demonscars

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Heard back from Steven/Jane. Said the FTK had a lot of orders and for "quality control" they were very very slow to make but that mine had been shipped from his factory and a tracking number would come my way tomorrow. So sounds like I'll be receiving a fake tracking number tomorrow.
 

pigfoot

Dabs are vapor too!
Would the mothership serve well for flowers, or is it mostly recommended for oil?

I've been looking into this. It's interesting, because until fairly recently, the standard oil rig was small, with minimum diffusion. Lately, Mothership's designs have been getting a lot of use as oil rigs. I think this is partly due to the increasing use of enails, which require a more stable, heavy bubbler, and the fact that they are beautiful. Here what an insider had to say:

"The Ball Rig, along with all the jointed Mothership models, was designed for flower, and for the water to cover up to half of the internal ball. With that level it churns water hard. People who use Ball rigs to dab will usually put the water just above the Perc, which will make it a bit airy. It also defeats the purpose a bit, with the concept being that you can pull hard on a ball with alot of water in it, and centrifugal force forces the bubbles to peak over the top of the internal ball without going up the mouthpiece. While Fab Egg's have been the go-to Mothership for people to get, alot of people who own the whole line favor the Ball Rig.

Remember that just the Mini/Mini Straight Fab were designed for dabbing. The current prediction is that Mini-Fixie version of the Torus/Ball Rig/Fab/Klein will eventually go into production, similar to the Elites that appeared at Relics of the Stars, a show we did with them back in August."
 

redcon

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@pigfoot when you say Ball rig you are referring to designs similar to the fc-710 perc, correct?

For the FC-710, I am filling the water to just slightly above where the mouthpiece arm connects to the chamber. Is that the appropriate amount of water?
 

pigfoot

Dabs are vapor too!
@pigfoot when you say Ball rig you are referring to designs similar to the fc-710 perc, correct?

For the FC-710, I am filling the water to just slightly above where the mouthpiece arm connects to the chamber. Is that the appropriate amount of water?

That was a quote, so it wasn't my statement :), but I would assume it was referring to a Mothership ball rig like this one.
Mod note: picture of counterfeit glass removed.

My FC 710 is still in China, but I hope to have it soon! Here's a pic from @DieHard, looks like you're in the ballpark.
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Bongologist

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@redcon that sucks about that piece, but I understand, that would drive me crazy too. I have a straight fab that I tried with flower, and it's ok, but the water level needed scares me slightly. When you pull to clear, the water runs back up the stem a little too far, almost reaching the joint. I don't think it could actually reach the bowl area, but I just don't like it for flower. I got my sidecar from Yingman (I think) and it was a very good piece. Mouthpiece was straight, perc was good, base was solid.
 
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