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DieHard

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Thanks for the input, I'm really looking forward to christening that rig! Would you recommend going for a drop down adapter vs a straight 18mm male-female?

I'm using a straight 18f/14f on it right now as I type. But I was thinking that a small drop that keeps tight to the rig will prevent tippyness. @VaPeD&CoNfUsEd (more input for my drop). I really want to keep the vapor path as short as possible to retain flavor.
 

tennstrong

Well-Known Member
Sorry @EverythingsHazy but I still disagree with most of what you said- What I do agree with though is your baseline point that vapor is vapor and a piece won't change it- it can however change the potency.

the effect of the vapor, and the flavor profile do not change from piece to piece, if you keep them clean
How can this possibly be true for even one person's experience. Maybe vaping there is less so a difference (though I still notice differences between pieces), but dabbing is hugely dependent on piece/can/perc size for flavor and effect. I can distinctly tell a difference in effect of a micro dab on a 4" mini tube where it is about right size for me to handle, vs a micro dab through like a 16" downgridded sov kingstem where it feels like a little sip. This is due to the dab being diffused much less and having no real can to build claim on, and does have an effect on potency. Even comparing my double micro toro to my tall circ-turbine bronx bubbler I can tell that the bronx has a larger can size (even though they are roughly the same height with the bronx being taller by maybe 3", toro is just more compact in each chamber) just from a blind test. Even if you keep them clean (to get to your other point here), chamber size still plays a huge role and each dab will individually have it's own reclaim, with more surface area on larger sized chambers. One piece could taste like lemon and the other like nothing though. (I agree with glass=glass=/=magic)

There are things to be said though for method of diffusion and formation. I like your point about having a large buildup can size for the pillar style, with a small bubbling can, something like that could have an effect on the potency of your vapor- in that it allows for wider contact with the water/can (and when you have an air part of your can less claim builds there) and less restriction. Hitting a hitman mini followed by a DG goldstein is just a prime example of how different it can be in my own experience. Just noticing the buildup areas on your piece when you clean it (and also noticing time of claim buildup between cleans) can tell you a lot regarding how the diffusion process is working, and if it is working effectively. You don't see anyone hitting dabs out of zongs and saying it's the best, the formation of your tube has a huge effect on how quickly the vapor will reach you, and how much constriction and can size there is for claim buildup. Diffusion in simple of any kind (in general, the helix grav labs air tube may be an exception to the rule) reduces your potency of material by exposing it to things that the vapor can claim onto.
 

xer0

Well-Known Member
So I am super impressed with my first order from CCG. Ordered a Dcycler from them last Tuesday and today it arrived at my door step. 11 days from order to delivery is fantastic IMO.

I've only done a few dabs through it so far but the function is perfect. Vortex is there although water level and draw speed certainly affect that.

Most of all though this piece is clean. No minor issues at all. Glass is smooth. Perc slits are cut cleanly. I only wish there was a 15" version as well.
 

tennstrong

Well-Known Member
So I am super impressed with my first order from CCG. Ordered a Dcycler from them last Tuesday and today it arrived at my door step. 11 days from order to delivery is fantastic IMO.

I've only done a few dabs through it so far but the function is perfect. Vortex is there although water level and draw speed certainly affect that.

Most of all though this piece is clean. No minor issues at all. Glass is smooth. Perc slits are cut cleanly. I only wish there was a 15" version as well.
dang I thought orders wouldnt make it with cny, guess ill have to grab either that or the pillar (although the stereo matrix looks like it would fit my big tube void) after CNY ends. Hopeful to hear ur later review of it!
 
tennstrong,
So I am super impressed with my first order from CCG. Ordered a Dcycler from them last Tuesday and today it arrived at my door step. 11 days from order to delivery is fantastic IMO.

I've only done a few dabs through it so far but the function is perfect. Vortex is there although water level and draw speed certainly affect that.

Most of all though this piece is clean. No minor issues at all. Glass is smooth. Perc slits are cut cleanly. I only wish there was a 15" version as well.
Nice. I have been doing dabs out of my CCG puck recycler today. Also my first order from CCG and I am very pleased. Think I will have to order the dcycler after CNY :D
 

xer0

Well-Known Member
dang I thought orders wouldnt make it with cny, guess ill have to grab either that or the pillar (although the stereo matrix looks like it would fit my big tube void) after CNY ends. Hopeful to hear ur later review of it!

It probably is too late now to avoid CNY delays. I'm looking forward to the big Matrix pillar myself. I ordered the FC-710 and FC-187 at the same time from the guy that's making the pillars but they're not even stateside yet. Hoping the ones I get are as nice as some of the others here.

Nice. I have been doing dabs out of my CCG puck recycler today. Also my first order from CCG and I am very pleased. Think I will have to order the dcycler after CNY :D

That one is interesting but too small for me. The 8-9" pieces are the smallest I can stand using. The Dcycler would be perfect if it was 15" or so. I don't think I would use another piece ever. (ok maybe not EVER ;))

Here's a little action shot of the Dcycler with the e-nano for anyone that is on the fence...


I have gotten better with the vortex since this session. The key is a very hard initial pull. That gets the water swirling correctly and it usually makes the drain a little slower as well.
 

cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
I sure do like the look of that D-Cycler, it just seems a little small to me for flowers. I think only a couple inches might make the difference. I will ack that I am tempted anyway.
 

EverythingsHazy

Well-Known Member
i wish my LHS accepts trade ins.... if they did i would be ordering a buttload of stuff from dhgate and trading it in for credit, just to get those name brand water pipes and stuff......
Don't feel too bad. Usually, trade-in's are a bad way to try to make money, unless you are dealing with people who have no idea what their stuff is worth. With stores, this usually isn't the case, and a LHS probably knows about, and even orders from Chinese knockoff bong makers, as well as being able to know they aren't worth as much as a brand name piece. It's not like you can trade in a couple gb-186's for a real Mobius Stereo Matrix at most places.

It probably is too late now to avoid CNY delays. I'm looking forward to the big Matrix pillar myself. I ordered the FC-710 and FC-187 at the same time from the guy that's making the pillars but they're not even stateside yet. Hoping the ones I get are as nice as some of the others here.



That one is interesting but too small for me. The 8-9" pieces are the smallest I can stand using. The Dcycler would be perfect if it was 15" or so. I don't think I would use another piece ever. (ok maybe not EVER ;))

Here's a little action shot of the Dcycler with the e-nano for anyone that is on the fence...


I have gotten better with the vortex since this session. The key is a very hard initial pull. That gets the water swirling correctly and it usually makes the drain a little slower as well.
The Matrix Pillar will be going into production shortly after CNY, and I should have a sample to show you guys a little bit after the 25th. According to Steven.
 

PoopMachine

Well-Known Member
I have two pieces out there somewhere... a 710 and a Dcycler. The 710 has been ordered for 14 days and doesnt appear to even have hit American soil yet. The Dcycler only showed up in the system about 3 days ago.. hope CNY doesnt delay them. I havent had any new glass in quite a while.
 

Yesss

New Member
Hi FC,


I am new to vaping and I was wondering if you could reccomend any cheap (but not crap) bubbler for arizer solo with 18 mm GonG I have of course been looking at the d020 and it also looks perfect for me but the waiting time is very long which really bugs me.

Peace.
 
Hi FC,


I am new to vaping and I was wondering if you could reccomend any cheap (but not crap) bubbler for arizer solo with 18 mm GonG I have of course been looking at the d020 and it also looks perfect for me but the waiting time is very long which really bugs me.

Peace.
If the waiting time bugs you then you need to pay more at your LHS or from an online store/reseller. There are reasons the bubblers are cheap.
 

little maggie

Well-Known Member
I need some help with my DO-20-2-W. I've bought some GONGs for my solo and UD to convert them to 18". None of them fit on the DO-20-2-W even though it's 18". I'd appreciate any help- do I need a different kind of gong or just get a different water device.
 
little maggie,
I need some help with my DO-20-2-W. I've bought some GONGs for my solo and UD to convert them to 18". None of them fit on the DO-20-2-W even though it's 18". I'd appreciate any help- do I need a different kind of gong or just get a different water device.
I think that bubbler has a male joint so that means your gong would need to have a female joint (its probably male). I think you may need a 18mm female to female adapter. Its pretty confusing when starting out.
 

Yesss

New Member
Thank you very much for the answers!

I notice the seller sunshinestore has about 1-2 months of delivery and someone like Stevenlmz79 only has 2 weeks. So is there any pieces that will fit my 18 mm GonG and Arizer Solo and is like the d020 in terms of size and performance from Stevenlmz79? My budget is around 50$.

Peace.
 

Yesss

New Member
I live in europe. Sunshinestore states that they can deliver around the 1. april while Stevenlmz79 states he can deliver around the 1. March which is a big difference imo. So I was wondering if anyone could recommend any bubbler from him?

Peace.
 

rakka

Vaped
Those are just ETAs, they hardly mean anything. And with the chinese new year holiday if steven can get your goods to you by the 1st of march colour me impressed :-/

But hey if you're set on steven, try the sidecar FC-187. Apparently a decent bubbler, I might get one too soon.
 

Yesss

New Member
Ahhh okay, I thought the ETA meant something. But then if I were to get the (famous) d020, which model should I pick? I saw there was one called d020-d for example.

Peace.
 

rakka

Vaped
Get the D020-D first for sure. I actually wish it were a bit larger, and it's already quite a bit bigger than the D020..

I pair it with a Solo currently.

But yeah again, I'm also looking @ the FC-187v2 from steven.

Its just that the general consensus I think is that sunshine is a more consistent vendor
 

Yesss

New Member
Does anyone know any europe vendors which sells a bubbler I could use for my arizer solo? I am searching the market right know but can't seem to find any head shop in europe that looks like it could be trusted and have the right products.

Thank you very much for your answers so far - it is really appreciated when being a noob in this market.

Peace.
 
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