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Vitolo

Vitolo

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Anonymouse said:
That's just an ordinary basic recycler, isn't it? What am I missing? Kathy sells a very similar one for US$22, and also somewhat similar ones for $21 and $23 each.

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Having seen Kathy's in action at a patients home, I can tell you what you are missing. The Elev8 Glass recycler is designed at an angle where the water recycles... it causes the water to spin vortex fashion as it recycles.
Kathy's unit is surely a better cost:nod:, however try as the owner may, the varied draw approach included, no vortex was able to be created.
(that was the point of my video posted in the elev8 thread.... two draw speeds, two varied actions that I did not find in other recyclers that have been here.)
 
Moogly

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yeah i like that, but the male joint i don't like so much. also, not looking for a bent neck
 
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Anonymouse

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Vitolo said:
Having seen Kathy's in action at a patients home, I can tell you what you are missing. The Elev8 Glass recycler is designed at an angle where the water recycles... it causes the water to spin vortex fashion as it recycles.
Kathy's unit is surely a better cost:nod:, however try as the owner may, the varied draw approach included, no vortex was able to be created.
(that was the point of my video posted in the elev8 thread.... two draw speeds, two varied actions that I did not find in other recyclers that have been here.)
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The angle doesn't make it spin (or "vortex" as we've taken to calling the phenomenon in this thread). The whirlpool chamber could be conical, spherical, cylindrical, etc, as long as it has a centred, restrictive drain and is circular(ish) in profile from above, it'll form a vortex as it drains. The angle and location where the water enters the chamber can help a vortex form in the draining chamber, but as long as the previous conditions are satisfied, it'll still vortex no matter where you dump the water in.

Going on thread reports, most of Kathy's recycler pieces will apparently form at least a weak vortex, at the right speeds, but they all tend to lack the restriction that causes a strong vortex to form. That's because China doesn't seem to really understand recyclers yet, though. The first clone designs of small pieces have only just started appearing; familiarity will bring better function to the pieces, and eventually, further innovation.

Either way, I'm not seeing a "new type of vortex action" in this video. Just the one we're all used to:
In fact, the Elev8 design also lacks a strong restriction, and as a result has a pretty weak vortex, even with the well-placed inlet location helping things. That's why you only get a vortex when you pull quite hard, because the vectored input has little effect at low draw speeds.
 
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ovrez

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i just got my gb-186-1 in.
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http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/hot-sell-the-newest-glass-bong-glass-smoking/190640698.html

it was packed very well, all the joints look good, the mouth is offset to the left a little, no tool marks or scratches in the glass i can see.

the only thing i don't like is how it hits
imo it is not smooth or easy to draw, it chugs, and it takes effort to pull air
i tried lots of different water levels nothing helped
it is not fun , sorry i got it, it will sit on my shelf until i give it away

i also got in the double barrel recycler
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http://www.dhgate.com/product/1lots...s/189937548.html#myaccount_orderdetail-1-null

now this 1 i like a lot
no cracks ,scratches that i see, joints look good, was packed bombproof, best packing yet
mouthpiece and stem for bowl are not straight,but that's ok
it is fun, it hits easy ,once you get the water level right it
no complaints on this pipe
 
ataxian

ataxian

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tepictoton said:
If you are innovative you can and will share 'your ideas'...and you will come up with something new eventually...al this patent blabla...real artists do not need this kind of bullshit protection. :2c:

I for one can only see benefits to the real artists, who will be recognized by the community, and who might once in a while sell some piece because someone owned a knock off and decided he liked it so much he bought the real deal...that someone might not have known that glassblower before the knockoff got him interested...again just my :2c:
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KIND CREATIONS makes really nice pieces.

Right now I love my cheap CHINESE glass pieces until I figure it all out.

I'm still learning!
 
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BoogerMan said:
Diamond Glass penetrated upline showerhead (or something like that lol)
14mm female joint
$149.99
I know this is above the $100 limit but @Cannabis Connoisseur and I were talking and we believe it may function similar to the mothership faberge :) all credit goes to him for figuring this out! So if I get a video and it functions like we are expecting it may be well worth the price!
http://www.glasspipemaster.com/all-products/diamond-glass-trophy-penetrated-water-pipe.html
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This second one is pretty sick, super interested to see a water test. By the way I think you meant the MS ball rigs right?

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Ball rig

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Faberge
 
BoogerMan

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IWAW said:
This second one is pretty sick, super interested to see a water test. By the way I think you meant the MS ball rigs right?

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Ball rig

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Faberge
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You're right it is more like the ball rig. @Cannabis Connoisseur ordered one so hopefully it gets in next week :)

@arrr to me it looks like btoc seems to be a little better quality but it is hard to tell. The joint support looks better on btoc compared to Kathy.
 
Anonymouse

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Kathy's "D020" turned out to be a knock-off of the SunshineStore one, with fewer slits and some other corner-cutting differences. Are we sure the Kathy and Btoc recyclers are definitely the same?

They do at least look the same, this time, though.
 
arrr

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Deciding between yingman5 GB-187http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/hot-sell-the-newest-glass-bong-glass-smoking/188885599.html#sshot_-1-null

Kathy double barrel http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/new-glass-bong-with-bowl-and-oil-rig-glass/194746333.html

Btoc double barrel
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/1lots-glass-pipes-glass-bubbler-glass-glass/189937548.html

Or Kathys d020 http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/two-function-glass-bong-with-bowl-oil-dome/191277924.html

Also I am going to ask Kathy if she can offer the gb-187.
 
Cannabis Connoisseur

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BoogerMan said:
You're right it is more like the ball rig. @Cannabis Connoisseur ordered one so hopefully it gets in next week :)

@arrr to me it looks like btoc seems to be a little better quality but it is hard to tell. The joint support looks better on btoc compared to Kathy.
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LOL, Hell Ball Rig Or Faberge, GET ON THE MOTHERSHIP BANDWAGON!! Doesnt matter!! Thanks for the correction though!!! I'm thinking, knock off a grand and I'm All In!!! If our vendors are gonna make Replicas AIM FOR THE STARS DAMMIT!
 
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ataxian

ataxian

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FUnhouse said:
So after obsessively watching this thread for a while .
I think I am getting ready to get one of these .
http://www.dhgate.com/product/d020-...-pipe-with-two/193620248.html#cppd-1-5|null:5

Any body have bad experiences with it ?

To use my Cera with it would I need a 18mm-f to 18mm-f adapter?(if works well with my current 18mm f ) and if so do any of these guys sell one ?
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I have the same can in a ash collector 14mm configuration. The piece you are looking at I want as well. 18mm I believe it comes in.

Welcome to affordable glass!

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I experienced a violent tornado vortex with this piece.
 
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cybrguy

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It would seem that you guys are giving a lot of trust and praise to a vendor who, just a couple weeks ago, was the one vendor who screwed up the most. Maybe Kathy has turned over a new leaf, but I would suggest it is too early to tell. I think I might be a littler less hopeful that everything Kathy is on the way up...
But maybe I'm just a curmudgeon. :)
 
pigfoot

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arrr said:
Do you guys think Kathys and btoc double barrel are of the same quality?
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ataxian said:
Their made in the same factory.
Both brokers I've bought stuff from.
Choose the best price!
I personally have had no problems.
Do you have a link for the piece you plan to get?
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Anonymouse said:
Kathy's "D020" turned out to be a knock-off of the SunshineStore one, with fewer slits and some other corner-cutting differences. Are we sure the Kathy and Btoc recyclers are definitely the same?

They do at least look the same, this time, though.
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arrr said:
Deciding between yingman5 GB-187http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/hot-sell-the-newest-glass-bong-glass-smoking/188885599.html#sshot_-1-null

Kathy double barrel http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/new-glass-bong-with-bowl-and-oil-rig-glass/194746333.html

Btoc double barrel
http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/1lots-glass-pipes-glass-bubbler-glass-glass/189937548.html

Or Kathys d020 http://www.dhgate.com/store/product/two-function-glass-bong-with-bowl-oil-dome/191277924.html

Also I am going to ask Kathy if she can offer the gb-187.
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I don't think it's ever been answered, let alone discussed, whether these vendors are making the pieces, or reselling them. I don't think there's been any comparison of the double barrels from the 2 vendors. On the one hand, there's pictures of sunshinestore's factory, on the other, speculation that Kathy's slower shipping was due to her having to pickup the piece from a manufacturer.

With the D020, I remember folks ordering from a source other than sunshinestore and being dissapointed.
As far as the double barrel, everyone seems to be happy as far as I can remember. I'm thinking of ordering the double barrel, and I'll order it from Kathy. She seems to be on the ball now as far as shipping times, and her prices are better.

I wouldn't say I trust her, but her performance has improved.
 
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