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Hogni
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Just got this message from Steven's Jane:
"oh,old friend, glad to hear from you.
Steven is think the advice is very important from FC,hope more FC memebers tell me their advice.
OK, so, what I should do?could you tell me more detailed?to produce this adpater?
BTW, WE ARE MAKING REALLY SEED OF LIFE PERC, MAKED BY LASER,DO NOT CUTTING.LOKE HERE ENCLOSED PIC,PLS CHECK..
Jane"
What does she want? A how-to-make an adapter with a bulb?? Am I a glassblower??
Obviously they need more input from the FC community. If you would like to contact them mention my msg (from Hogni). Called the items "carbon filter adapter" and "straight claisen/downstem"
Regarding the Seed of Life perc she added some pics:
EDIT: This was my reply:
Hi Jane,
nice to hear that - greetings to Steven!
What should you do? Produce these items please! ;-)
As I've told you there ar3 really a lot of members at FC who are very interested in both items.
Especially the straight claisen/downstem is very important cause no downstem fits to your bubblers with a flat and wider top of body (like for example the FC 187, 188, UFO).
Even your offered downstems aren't suitable. It's important to make the base of each joint a little deeper than the connecting horizontal tube as a reservoir for collecting reclaim.
What shall I tell you about the adapter? I'm no glassblower but it seems to be made very simple. It's just a blown bulb between the two joints. Would be important not to make the bulb thin regarding stabilty and fragility and offer it with different kind of joints in different sizes. Look at the pic I've sent you about please.
I've published your pics of the Seed of Life percs at FC. Any pics of new pieces with this perc?
Best from Berlin
FC-Hogni
"oh,old friend, glad to hear from you.
Steven is think the advice is very important from FC,hope more FC memebers tell me their advice.
OK, so, what I should do?could you tell me more detailed?to produce this adpater?
BTW, WE ARE MAKING REALLY SEED OF LIFE PERC, MAKED BY LASER,DO NOT CUTTING.LOKE HERE ENCLOSED PIC,PLS CHECK..
Jane"
What does she want? A how-to-make an adapter with a bulb?? Am I a glassblower??
Obviously they need more input from the FC community. If you would like to contact them mention my msg (from Hogni). Called the items "carbon filter adapter" and "straight claisen/downstem"
Regarding the Seed of Life perc she added some pics:
EDIT: This was my reply:
Hi Jane,
nice to hear that - greetings to Steven!
What should you do? Produce these items please! ;-)
As I've told you there ar3 really a lot of members at FC who are very interested in both items.
Especially the straight claisen/downstem is very important cause no downstem fits to your bubblers with a flat and wider top of body (like for example the FC 187, 188, UFO).
Even your offered downstems aren't suitable. It's important to make the base of each joint a little deeper than the connecting horizontal tube as a reservoir for collecting reclaim.
What shall I tell you about the adapter? I'm no glassblower but it seems to be made very simple. It's just a blown bulb between the two joints. Would be important not to make the bulb thin regarding stabilty and fragility and offer it with different kind of joints in different sizes. Look at the pic I've sent you about please.
I've published your pics of the Seed of Life percs at FC. Any pics of new pieces with this perc?
Best from Berlin
FC-Hogni
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Received an FC-186 from steven today, but no drop down adapters which were on the same order 
Bit larger than I expected for some reason too lol
I'll be trying it out this evening after work, but I think I might look for something a bit smaller that I can pick up and hold easily.
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When it's sat on my desk at home, it's about the right height for my mouth when sitting in my chair
Bit larger than I expected for some reason too lol
I'll be trying it out this evening after work, but I think I might look for something a bit smaller that I can pick up and hold easily.
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When it's sat on my desk at home, it's about the right height for my mouth when sitting in my chair
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Baron23
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I suspect that sending a drawing or picture may be more helpful, perhaps.Just got this message from Steven's Jane:
"oh,old friend, glad to hear from you.
Steven is think the advice is very important from FC,hope more FC memebers tell me their advice.
OK, so, what I should do?could you tell me more detailed?to produce this adpater?
BTW, WE ARE MAKING REALLY SEED OF LIFE PERC, MAKED BY LASER,DO NOT CUTTING.LOKE HERE ENCLOSED PIC,PLS CHECK..
Jane"
What does she want? A how-to-make an adapter with a bulb?? Am I a glassblower??
Obviously they need more input from the FC community. If you would like to contact them mention my msg (from Hogni). Called the items "carbon filter adapter" and "straight claisen/downstem"
Regarding the Seed of Life perc she added some pics:
EDIT: This was my reply:
Hi Jane,
nice to hear that - greetings to Steven!
What should you do? Produce these items please! ;-)
As I've told you there ar3 really a lot of members at FC who are very interested in both items.
Especially the straight claisen/downstem is very important cause no downstem fits to your bubblers with a flat and wider top of body (like for example the FC 187, 188, UFO).
Even your offered downstems aren't suitable. It's important to make the base of each joint a little deeper than the connecting horizontal tube as a reservoir for collecting reclaim.
What shall I tell you about the adapter? I'm no glassblower but it seems to be made very simple. It's just a blown bulb between the two joints. Would be important not to make the bulb thin regarding stabilty and fragility and offer it with different kind of joints in different sizes. Look at the pic I've sent you about please.
I've published your pics of the Seed of Life percs at FC. Any pics of new pieces with this perc?
Best from Berlin
FC-Hogni
UnevenPizza
I dream of Pizza
I've been fighting my GAS for a while successfully, until today I couldn't resist.
I decided I can't really spring for a full sized Piece, all modular the way I'd like, so I decided to get an Ashcatcher, and see about a J-Hook.
I wanted to check local shops before I order online, because sometimes they have some pretty cheap pieces.
I found this nice little ashcatcher/precooler, from Black Leaf for thirty bucks.
I tried it, but wasn't too happy with the result (too lopsided/risky
). I guess for a 1-hit extraction it will help though hehe. That is fun.
I've been wanting something light that I could use "from a distance", so I tried to hook up the Whip from my EQ, and it works great! Since it's 18mm I had to wrap a bit of kleenex around the end that goes into the glass, but it holds in there just fine!
Next step is getting a longer whip and/or making some kind of stand/box to keep everything sturdy and stable. I'm thinking of designs as right now, as I'm enjoying cool sips from this contraption!
I am loving it paired with the Air 2.
I kind of always had Black Leaf in mind as being kind of weird or bad, but I think that was because I went through a series of bad/cheap bongs by them. This Little Precooler though is really nice! It feels sturdy enough for what I'm gonna put it through. Everything inside also looks very nice.
I decided I can't really spring for a full sized Piece, all modular the way I'd like, so I decided to get an Ashcatcher, and see about a J-Hook.
I wanted to check local shops before I order online, because sometimes they have some pretty cheap pieces.
I found this nice little ashcatcher/precooler, from Black Leaf for thirty bucks.
I tried it, but wasn't too happy with the result (too lopsided/risky
). I guess for a 1-hit extraction it will help though hehe. That is fun.I've been wanting something light that I could use "from a distance", so I tried to hook up the Whip from my EQ, and it works great! Since it's 18mm I had to wrap a bit of kleenex around the end that goes into the glass, but it holds in there just fine!
Next step is getting a longer whip and/or making some kind of stand/box to keep everything sturdy and stable. I'm thinking of designs as right now, as I'm enjoying cool sips from this contraption!
I am loving it paired with the Air 2.
I kind of always had Black Leaf in mind as being kind of weird or bad, but I think that was because I went through a series of bad/cheap bongs by them. This Little Precooler though is really nice! It feels sturdy enough for what I'm gonna put it through. Everything inside also looks very nice.
Justpassedu
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Can you link me to this , i could not find it on dhgate ? Please
I cannot I'm afraid. It just popped on their YouTube channel yesterday. Some ppl in the comments also asking where the hell on DHgate the piece is.
Baron23
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Ha...yeah, they are coyote uglyThere are a few others that are on CCG's YouTube channel but not on their DHgate page.
These popped the same time as the previous one I posted. IMHO, these two are as UGLY AS ALMIGHTY FUCKBALLS!
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=coyote ugly
I got mine today as well, and my other smaller Toro bubbler too! I wasn't expecting them for at least another week.Received an FC-186 from steven today, but no drop down adapters which were on the same order
Bit larger than I expected for some reason too lol
I'll be trying it out this evening after work, but I think I might look for something a bit smaller that I can pick up and hold easily.
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When it's sat on my desk at home, it's about the right height for my mouth when sitting in my chair
No customs as well!
Yes the FC-186 is a tallish piece. This is why I picked up on Newvape's photo of their much shorter model they showed using and questioned Edwyn about his recommendation and link for Steven's taller 34cm model.
I am assuming Edwyn has crosswd wires or overlooked something, as the rig he isnusing to inspire his new recommended "FP beater", is a different model to the one he linked and which many FP users have already flocked to buy.
I was a little undecided which to choose- Steven's, or one of the shorter models which are a bit cheaper as well.
I expect it will be a case of pros and cons. The bigger can will be good in some ways, and less in others. I may consider a shorter one later on, for variety and to see which I prefer. We will have to establish together which is the best FP model.
Hogni
Honi soit qui mal y pense
@Hogni send this to them?
I got this other rig called BIG RED that has a piece to big for vaping?
FC UFO with a smaller mouthpiece I prefer!
Friend, I will do so but step by step. First let's wait for the adapter and the claisen. If they should produce/sell them we can ask for other mouthpieces
Meanwhile you could collect and post some pics of mouthpieces you would like to see offered by Steven?It works really well with the FP. It just looks quite tall on my desk, it's head and shoulders over my hydratubes.I got mine today as well, and my other smaller Toro bubbler too! I wasn't expecting them for at least another week.
No customs as well!
Yes the FC-186 is a tallish piece. This is why I picked up on Newvape's photo of their much shorter model they showed using and questioned Edwyn about his recommendation and link for Steven's taller 34cm model.
I am assuming Edwyn has crosswd wires or overlooked something, as the rig he isnusing to inspire his new recommended "FP beater", is a different model to the one he linked and which many FP users have already flocked to buy.
I was a little undecided which to choose- Steven's, or one of the shorter models which are a bit cheaper as well.
I expect it will be a case of pros and cons. The bigger can will be good in some ways, and less in others. I may consider a shorter one later on, for variety and to see which I prefer. We will have to establish together which is the best FP model.
Minimal extra draw restriction with the second perc (compared to my D020-D), very stable, the mouthpiece is just about the right height when sat on my desk so I'm not leaning over or picking the piece up and it milks easily.
I do sort of wish it had a sidecar mouthpiece too so I could see the density of the vapour a little better
Hi @muunch, what kind of recycler do you have?
Is it Chinese glass? If so, do you have a link to it please?
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It is the one in Edwyn's video the other day, with a Mobius logo but clearly at least 5 cm shorter than the 186. If you just sesrch dhgate for "mobius stereo matrix" you will see other options and the heights vary.
Im not sure if I can link it without getting a silent and annonymous, albeit painless wrist slap!
.Have a great day in class dude- keep us all posted on how you like the 186 when you get it.
Hogni
Honi soit qui mal y pense
@Alexis , what's about your own piece? Didn't you try it up to now?
At least it's a beauty in my eyes. I love it's straight unpretentious form factor and the view of it's water games in action.
Why do you compare the different height of the versions before testing your own first?
@Pyr0 ,try to connect a j-hook or a short whip and a piece of silicone with the mouthpiece for a better view and lower draw position.
But isn't it extraordinary smooth in use?
Wish you a lot of joy with your new pieces!
At least it's a beauty in my eyes. I love it's straight unpretentious form factor and the view of it's water games in action.
Why do you compare the different height of the versions before testing your own first?
@Pyr0 ,try to connect a j-hook or a short whip and a piece of silicone with the mouthpiece for a better view and lower draw position.
But isn't it extraordinary smooth in use?
Wish you a lot of joy with your new pieces!
I have not ued it yet Hogni, I have a fresh winter coxsackie virus the same time every year, after battling so hard to lower all my infections recemtly. These neurological coxsackie viruses mess everyhting up causing stiffness and muscle weakness and always get direct into my lungs and intestines.
So I am in a poor condition and will have to use a lot of energy to get back on top. I have my Flowerpot and controller, just wanted to be on better shape and need to do some housework before I can consider setting it up.
I dont expect the FC 186 to be defificient of subpar in any way, I just found it rather stramge that Edwyn so strongly recommemded the FC 186 for the Fp when he is cleary using a different model himself.
I have asked him for clarification on this a few times with no response. I just want to make people aware of the options in case the shorter model might be preferred by some, that is all, so that we can maybe get some conparisons done in the name of establishing the ulrimate FP rig.
Very good on you Hogni for engaing with Popular Glass regardimg the adapters. It seems they are receivimg you well and you are doing an excellent job motivating them to make these pieces.
For what it is worth Hogni, I feel that you are always asking the right questions and have great wisdom and insight on all things, keep at it pal!
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Hi @Hogni,
Yes it is quite smooth. Maybe not quite as smooth as the d020 but really good, thank you for recommending it previously
Unfortunately I don't really enjoy whips and/or small mouthpieces, but I've just been looking at the Mobius Stereo Matrix perc bubblers on DHgate (skiving in work lol) and noticed there's one with a sort of sidecar mouthpiece.. I won't post a link due to the naming and the pics showing a logo but thinking maybe I should have picked up one of those instead.
I really like the swirling action of the recyclers too
[edit] @Alexis, sorry to hear about your virus
I've recently started taking monolaurin during cold/flu season to hopefully keep any viruses away
Yes it is quite smooth. Maybe not quite as smooth as the d020 but really good, thank you for recommending it previously
Unfortunately I don't really enjoy whips and/or small mouthpieces, but I've just been looking at the Mobius Stereo Matrix perc bubblers on DHgate (skiving in work lol) and noticed there's one with a sort of sidecar mouthpiece.. I won't post a link due to the naming and the pics showing a logo but thinking maybe I should have picked up one of those instead.
I really like the swirling action of the recyclers too
[edit] @Alexis, sorry to hear about your virus
I've recently started taking monolaurin during cold/flu season to hopefully keep any viruses away
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Hogni
Honi soit qui mal y pense
We'll see, the chinese sometimes are slowpokes and their understanding of english communication is often awful. Even then they intend to understand what you mean.
My english is bad but not so bad not to understand what I want to express - mostly, I hope.
Anyway - whish you all the best and get well fast, bro!
Next week I'll get my NV SH, my Supreme V3 and some other things I'm eager to try - I hope so at least. There are lot of unforeseen things happen all the time upt to now.
The slowpokes of CCA missed the deadline of my US couriers so unfortunately I've to wait until next spring for getting my Liger 3.0 if they don't send it to me with a faked custom declaration
And I was so in hope to have all the state of the art devices for herbs and concentrates at home
BTW I'm still enjoying my Herb Ti very much - it's really a little nice slut which fucks me to the moon. Pretty amazing. Can't nearly believe that the SH shall make a better job. We'll see and I'll report on that.
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@Pyr0 , D020 smoother than this? Not in my experiences
My english is bad but not so bad not to understand what I want to express - mostly, I hope.
Anyway - whish you all the best and get well fast, bro!
Next week I'll get my NV SH, my Supreme V3 and some other things I'm eager to try - I hope so at least. There are lot of unforeseen things happen all the time upt to now.
The slowpokes of CCA missed the deadline of my US couriers so unfortunately I've to wait until next spring for getting my Liger 3.0 if they don't send it to me with a faked custom declaration
And I was so in hope to have all the state of the art devices for herbs and concentrates at home
BTW I'm still enjoying my Herb Ti very much - it's really a little nice slut which fucks me to the moon. Pretty amazing. Can't nearly believe that the SH shall make a better job. We'll see and I'll report on that.
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@Pyr0 , D020 smoother than this? Not in my experiences
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I guess it may depend on what we're trying to define as smoothWe'll see, the chinese sometimes are slowpokes and their understanding of english communication is often awful. Even then they intend to understand what you mean.
My english is bad but not so bad not to understand what I want to express - mostly, I hope.
Anyway - whish you all the best and get well fast, bro!
Next week I'll get my NV SH, my Supreme V3 and some other things I'm eager to try - I hope so at least. There are lot of unforeseen things happen all the time upt to now.
The slowpokes of CCA missed the deadline of my US couriers so unfortunately I've to wait until next spring for getting my Liger 3.0 if they don't send it to me with a faked custom declaration
And I was so in hope to have all the state of the art devices for herbs and concentrates at home
BTW I'm still enjoying my Herb Ti very much - it's really a little nice slut which fucks me to the moon. Pretty amazing. Can't nearly believe that the SH shall make a better job. We'll see and I'll report on that.
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@Pyro , D020 smoother than this? Not in my experiences
I think possibly the vapour may be a little smoother due to the additional perc on the fc-186, but I found d020-d to have a really nice little "purrrrrrrr"
Perhaps I have my water level too high
More experimentation needed
in the name of science lol 
Sounds very exciting! Shame about the liger, but again it is very far from a "need" with those oters coming!We'll see, the chinese sometimes are slowpokes and their understanding of english communication is often awful. Even then they intend to understand what you mean.
My english is bad but not so bad not to understand what I want to express - mostly, I hope.
Anyway - whish you all the best and get well fast, bro!
Next week I'll get my NV SH, my Supreme V3 and some other things I'm eager to try - I hope so at least. There are lot of unforeseen things happen all the time upt to now.
The slowpokes of CCA missed the deadline of my US couriers so unfortunately I've to wait until next spring for getting my Liger 3.0 if they don't send it to me with a faked custom declaration
And I was so in hope to have all the state of the art devices for herbs and concentrates at home
BTW I'm still enjoying my Herb Ti very much - it's really a little nice slut which fucks me to the moon. Pretty amazing. Can't nearly believe that the SH shall make a better job. We'll see and I'll report on that.
Im sure you will not miss it too much, just some mind over matter and there is no problem, and you have saved a new excitement for early next year to look forward to.
Im very excited to hear your impressions on the new ones comimg, in relation also to the Ti.
Not sure when I will try my Flowerpot. I planned to take several days vapor break this week to get things in order. I didnt expect my glass to arrive yet, but I am such a poor way now I dont see things improving for a while. The viruses at this time of year always are the worst especially at the beginning.
So I expect I will probably cave in and set up my Flowerpot sooner or later, we will see.
@Pyr0 thanks for the tip abput monolaurin. There are very many supplements that can help here but I am extremely reactive to 99% of supplements which is a big factor in my immune deficiency as I am unable to give more support and rebalance my intestinal flora with probiotics for example which is vital for a well functioning immune system.
Fear not though, I will keep fighting on and Im sure I will emerge victorious eventually!
Hogni
Honi soit qui mal y pense
The FC 186 needs a very low water level, max. up to the middle of the upper perc.
I've very sensitive bronchia and damaged lungs (40y of chain smoking beginning at the age of 10) and have to cough nearly after each draw. The FC 186 makes it sufferably to me, more than the D020.
I've very sensitive bronchia and damaged lungs (40y of chain smoking beginning at the age of 10) and have to cough nearly after each draw. The FC 186 makes it sufferably to me, more than the D020.
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