What symptoms are you looking to target with CBD ...what noticeable effects are you expecting? I find that my high CBD low THC concentrations ameliorate aches and pains and are generally mood uplifting with minimal head buzz.
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negan
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I can definitely feel the CBD when I take milky way drops, from epiqvape or from ACDC. It is a lot mellower of a high but it is there. My wife might as well have done a dab of thc as she gets up there with the giraffes just with CBD. She has never been a heavy user though, maybe 1 small bowl a night, at most, back when we smoked stlil. Even her eyes get crazy red from just a few puffs of epiqvape. She is really high stress/anxiety so I think having the CBD get rid/reduce those for her is a high in and of itself.
darkrom
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I'm trying to feel pain reduction, or generally more relaxed. I'm going to continue taking bigger and bigger CBD dabs I guess. Going to try the biggest dab of my life after work today haha. I have anxiety as well and don't seem to get any relief from it lately. Maybe I'm dosing too small. Nice glob when I get back. I'll update if I feel anything at all.
Edit: how's this for a dab of cbd. Am I being too stingey with it? If that was regular hash oil I'd certainly feel a dab of this size.
EDIT AGAIN: That dab made me feel more anxious, some sensation of being baked, especially in the eyes. Its actually pretty unpleasant, and its going to make taking a break easier I think. I'm sure it'll fade. When I vape or dab I like to use a little at once. I think the rapid transition or "rush" if you want to call it that stresses me out. I can feel the anxiety fading soon hopefully, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't feel worse after the dab than I did before.
Edit: how's this for a dab of cbd. Am I being too stingey with it? If that was regular hash oil I'd certainly feel a dab of this size.
EDIT AGAIN: That dab made me feel more anxious, some sensation of being baked, especially in the eyes. Its actually pretty unpleasant, and its going to make taking a break easier I think. I'm sure it'll fade. When I vape or dab I like to use a little at once. I think the rapid transition or "rush" if you want to call it that stresses me out. I can feel the anxiety fading soon hopefully, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't feel worse after the dab than I did before.
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Mookie143
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did they already shipped out to you ... I ordered 2 products going on 2 weeks almost & haven't gotten any of them I want my money back I pay $150.00 ever month to help with my issues I'm going through .. Chris kept saying I'll mail it out I'll mail it out & nothing
I ordered 2 products going on 2 weeks almost from OL & haven't gotten any of them I want my money back I pay $150.00 ever month to help with my issues I'm going through .. Chris kept saying I'll mail it out I'll mail it out & nothing ... I've been a memember for quite awhile now & been very happy with everything so why be like this to me it's not cool
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darkrom
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Feeling better now. That was weird. Going to chalk it up to me just not liking the rush effect I guess. Got incredibly tired, and just rested. I also worked out hard today, had coffee, and creatine. Very weird experience, but IDK no enjoyable or beneficial effects from that. Good god.
darkrom
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@Mookie143
Very different experience than the ones I had with Chris. Then again there are NO competitors out there, so really you might have to take what you can get. Are you in the USA? See if you can call them and find out whats going on.
Very different experience than the ones I had with Chris. Then again there are NO competitors out there, so really you might have to take what you can get. Are you in the USA? See if you can call them and find out whats going on.
paytonpenn
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@darkrom Maybe you're dosing too big? I'm curious about these sizes. If I vape too much my joints and body actually feel worse. But I guess if you're not feeling anything then its not effective for you.
What does work for you? I find the EquipVap to be pretty modest but helps relax the head buzz from the dabs. H30 taste nice but doesn't nothing.
What does work for you? I find the EquipVap to be pretty modest but helps relax the head buzz from the dabs. H30 taste nice but doesn't nothing.
darkrom
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That was a big dose for me. I usually don't dab that big. Now that I'm cutting WAY back on actual buds, I'm wondering if vaping in general is making me feel WORSE instead of better lately.... We will see. Doing a lot of very low dose experiments at this point. Went from vaping 8x+ a day to 0-2 and minuscule amounts and waiting longer. In some ways I like it better when I have a high tolerance, I seem to keep the negative side effects down when that is the case.
That is about 1/3-1/4 of my typical dab. If I am size referencing correctly. Anyway, I find the CBD heavy dabbing best right near bedtime. It helps me sleep more pain free. I have also been using the Dark Side Drops. My neck has been increasingly more painful lately. Since using the CBD heavy Dabs( actually mine is a custom shatter made from 60% a Nectar and 40% my own BHO), my neck pain has been a bit more tolerable. I think the effects are cumulative to a point.
darkrom
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Have you dabbed 3-4x larger than my pic of PURE Omega Labs CBD oil, not mixed with any bho? I'm wondering if the lack of THC can cause dysphoria (Spelling?) I truly felt TERRIBLE after that. Anxiety increased which brought on tension. Most of my worst pains are muscular in nature, so anxiety + tension = more pain. I wasn't happy at all after the dab in that pic. It went away after I laid down and was half asleep for a bit, but that was VERY unexpected from CBD. I felt kinda...dread and physical rush all over my body. For reference that would be a larger dab for me on regular oil. I keep my dabs micro in general and take a couple in a few minutes to avoid the rush as much as possible.
I had a bowl in the underdog of some random sativa strain, and no panic. Not very strong for 3 days off either, but I'll keep working at it.
olivianewtonjohn
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herbivore21
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I'm super bogged down with work at the moment and apologise for not having gotten back sooner on the CBD challenge. I have found much the very same as this brother.
High tolerances may make you use more material, but the fact is that they spare you from getting uncomfortably medicated if you dab too much. This would be a bad line of reasoning with many other medicines but since lower tolerance can lead to me dabbing myself into a panic attack, this is basically the opposite of what I am going for medically!
I am still going on the predominately CBD train though, leaving THC containing material for at night. It has been really nice, but I realized early on that I can't give up the THC stuff for nighttime since CBD is known to promote wakefulness and I medicate in part for persistent and very nasty insomnia.
Still, I would heartily recommend upping the CBD intake and somewhat lowering the THC intake. It's all about finding that balance, especially for us medical users who have very diverse symptoms and different needs.
darkrom
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Yeah I'm doing excellent with regular buds still so I don't know what to make of that other than me just hating the rush. I was calm and fine all day yesterday. No THC at all. Immediately after the dab pictured was very unpleasant. Just too much at once I think. I think if I broke that into 2 dabs and put 5-10 min between them, I probably wouldn't have had anything negative happen.
darkrom
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Hey look, even the FDA is warning people that almost all cbd products are a scam.
http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/PublicHealthFocus/ucm435591.htm
http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/PublicHealthFocus/ucm435591.htm
herbivore21
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This is something I can't fathom lol
In my country, if you say something is one way and testing finds it not to be as you said, the customer gets a full refund. That's the law.
How the fuck can it be acceptable to let people sell products like this which are clearly bullshit with no therapeutic value (but in some cases still being heated an inhaled like whatever mystery substance in it is good for the inhaler!).
Where is the FDA's teeth? Why can they not shut these people down for lying about products?
aesthyrian
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It's America, it's "how we roll". 
darkrom
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@herbivore21 this is nothing here sadly. Take a look into the supplement/vitamin industry in the USA. Everything says "NOT FDA APPROVED" and it can be anything. Just powdered soy capsules if they want. There is basically zero control for anything not FDA approved here. Pathetic. Even worse is that "proprietary blend" mystery dosage. Its so fucked up.
herbivore21
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Man I feel for you guys, especially for sick Americans who end up using snake oil instead of good medicine because of it!
paytonpenn
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Ive been off actual flowers for a few months now, only been using OL products. Never thought I'd see these days so soon, I'm not sure what to do with all this money I'm saving.
sounds like a dream
herbivore21
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Lol I gotta say I almost don't use flowers myself. I don't think flowers are that effective in the medical context. When I make medicine, I wanna make sure dosing is gonna be as close as possible between two dabs of the same weight and that there is as little inactive shit to get cooked up and inhaled in my material as possible.
Obviously on the latter of these, flowers cannot hope to tick the box. There is just way too much stuff in flowers which is filler, not medicine. On the former - distribution of actives in flowers is far from even, you can get one nug which is loaded up with actives and another from the same material with much less. This does not facilitate my extremely busy life lol.
This is why I love my sub-micron filtered winterized oils - especially OL cbd oils that I process in this way
That sounds like a dream to me. Lucky.Lol I gotta say I almost don't use flowers myself. I don't think flowers are that effective in the medical context. When I make medicine, I wanna make sure dosing is gonna be as close as possible between two dabs of the same weight and that there is as little inactive shit to get cooked up and inhaled in my material as possible.
Obviously on the latter of these, flowers cannot hope to tick the box. There is just way too much stuff in flowers which is filler, not medicine. On the former - distribution of actives in flowers is far from even, you can get one nug which is loaded up with actives and another from the same material with much less. This does not facilitate my extremely busy life lol.
This is why I love my sub-micron filtered winterized oils - especially OL cbd oils that I process in this way
herbivore21
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Man luck ain't got nothing to do with it, I live in one of the worst places in the world for finding material worth a damn. I just had to learn to make lemonade when given lemons
(actually on second thoughts, there has been a bit of luck on the finding good starting material lol).You guys should all try out winterizing your oils, it really makes a difference when done properly and will take such a load off your airways in terms of not inhaling stuff you don't need! If anyone needs a hand with winterizing, just PM me, I know I don't usually share tech but I am most happy to help fellow medical users make their medicine safer!
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