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florduh

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The last Governor here was a republican who slow walked the process. We had voted for it in 2018 but he still delayed it and delayed it while in charge, probably because he couldn't get a big enough piece for himself. Pritzker jumped on it right away and helped get legislation going almost immediately. It became legal on Jan 1 2020.
While I would certainly like better and faster progress, and especially much lower prices (Michigan next door is WAY cheaper), I can't complain too much. At least I now live in a legal state and I can stop always looking over my shoulder after hiding from the man for 50 years...

I mean, yeah it's great to have less to worry about from cops. But it absolutely sucks that you're priced out of dispensaries.

Even when Cali transitioned from med to rec with high taxes, I still found the dispos affordable. And it got a little better every month. At least in LA, there was an explosion of new dispensaries and delivery services. So while the taxes were high, retail prices dropped significantly. In Illinois, before tax prices are still out of control.
 

cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
Here is the best dispensary price I have ever seen here. This turns out to be about $352 after taxes. And it is Popcorn. If I had a med card the taxes would be way cheaper.
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Okla68

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Here is the best dispensary price I have ever seen here. This turns out to be about $352 after taxes. And it is Popcorn. If I had a med card the taxes would

Growing weed might be too easy for big agribusiness to profit off of it long term.

Maybe the solution is to encourage small operations. I believe testing costs are a barrier for smaller farmers. Why not have the government run the testing facilities as a non profit public service? Reduce taxes on cannabis to discourage the black market and use the entirety of that tax revenue to run the labs.

The "nobody wants to work anymore" crowd likes to point out that America was founded on "hard work". Sure. But for yourself. Not for some godless multinational corpo. The vision of the Founders was to have smallholder farmers making their own destiny from sea to shining sea. Why not roll that 18th/19th century ideal out again...now featuring cannabis.

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SPOT ON FLORDUH !
 

florduh

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Here is the best dispensary price I have ever seen here. This turns out to be about $352 after taxes. And it is Popcorn. If I had a med card the taxes would be way cheaper.
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Yeah dude you're getting gouged. Even during the early part of the transition to recreational in Cali, a cheap popcorn OZ would be $120-$150 if I'm recalling correctly.
 

JBone65

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SPOT ON FLORDUH !
I believe most states allow home grown. That's probably the ultimate "small grower" solution, especially for folks able to grow it in greenhouses or outdoors with inexpensive methods to protect it from severe weather. It should be easy for a significant percentage of Americans to avoid monopolies and over-taxation.
 
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cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
Not in Illinois unless you have a med card, and then only 5 plants. If you grow you can't be taxed for it, and the tax was the main reason for legalization here, at least in the minds of the legislature. I would be unlikely to grow anyway in an apartment, but it isn't even an option, legally.
 

Okla68

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Not in Illinois unless you have a med card, and then only 5 plants. If you grow you can't be taxed for it, and the tax was the main reason for legalization here, at least in the minds of the legislature. I would be unlikely to grow anyway in an apartment, but it isn't even an option, legally.
Apts would be tough...but..."ONLY 5 PLANT"...LMAO....Unless you plan on Selling...5 plants will produce More than you can use Yourself usually. I had one grow where 2 plants indoors produced 22 oz of trimmed bud ! TBH, it gets Boring using the Same product all the time.
The law here in Okla allows for 6 plants and 6 seedlings....Been using for 50+ years....6/6 will usually make MORE than One person can consume. Im Not gripping, but, IMO, the MMJ laws here in Okla are quite liberal.
 

JBone65

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Not in Illinois unless you have a med card, and then only 5 plants. If you grow you can't be taxed for it, and the tax was the main reason for legalization here, at least in the minds of the legislature. I would be unlikely to grow anyway in an apartment, but it isn't even an option, legally.
5 plants sounds like a great option although not practical in an apartment. Not everyone needs to grow it to undermine the over taxation and restricted availability. Also, I suspect a lot of home growers will accidentally exceed the legal limit since penalties are unlikely and no longer severe. Not yet in a position to grow (again), but it's gonna happen sooner or later. Trying to think of an easy way to grow it outdoors with backup protection from excessive heat and storms. Hopefully more and more people will grow over time and squeeze the corporations out.
 
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Gunky

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Yeah, those plant limits are completely arbitrary and don't make sense. Give it plenty of soil and light, let it veg for a while and 1 plant will grow very large indeed. Recently I've been filling a whole 4x4 tent with a single plant. So the limits don't really control quantity. What the limits effectively do is prevent the average joe from doing much in the way of breeding, and thus entrench Big Canna.
 

His_Highness

In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
I’d like for this to happen as well, but I don’t think it will, in the same way that growing tomatoes in the back yard isn’t putting supermarkets out of business.
Awhile back we discussed investing in cannabis companies and I mentioned that I don't invest (not to be confused with trading) in them because eventually we'll be able to grow our own legally. The counter argument was that I may invest in a company like Del Monte while I can already grow my own vegetables. The difference is I like vegetables but I LOVE cannabis. :lol:
 

shredder

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Awhile back we discussed investing in cannabis companies and I mentioned that I don't invest (not to be confused with trading) in them because eventually we'll be able to grow our own legally

In Michigan it's legal medically and recreationaly. And home growing is gradually going down, not up. The dropping prices probably have something more do with it. That and growing outdoors in Michigan is iffy at best.

And new dispensaries are springing up everywhere while other sell out or are closing. I'm seeing grow shops closing as well.
 

Principal Guy

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Apts would be tough...but..."ONLY 5 PLANT"...LMAO....Unless you plan on Selling...5 plants will produce More than you can use Yourself usually. I had one grow where 2 plants indoors produced 22 oz of trimmed bud ! TBH, it gets Boring using the Same product all the time.
The law here in Okla allows for 6 plants and 6 seedlings....Been using for 50+ years....6/6 will usually make MORE than One person can consume. Im Not gripping, but, IMO, the MMJ laws here in Okla are quite liberal.
Oklahoma, the Wild West of weed! We should all be so lucky.
 
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