Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer
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vaping herbs
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Hello dear community,
I would like to buy a new solid vaporisateur soon.
I own a volcano , but the steam is too dry for me and the system with the balloon I find annoying. Always get a strong cough from balloon, so vaping is no fun.
The choice is the Sublimator, FlowerPot and Herborizer.
Which of the three would you buy and what is the reason?
I would like to buy a new solid vaporisateur soon.
I own a volcano , but the steam is too dry for me and the system with the balloon I find annoying. Always get a strong cough from balloon, so vaping is no fun.
The choice is the Sublimator, FlowerPot and Herborizer.
Which of the three would you buy and what is the reason?
tb42091
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I would steer clear of the Sublimator right now. From what I've seen in the Sub threads, there has been little progress and basically zero customer service since they announced their new products.
RustyOldNail
SEARCH for the treasure...
Sold my old volcano, didn’t use it, never liked the bags. NewVape products are made to last, I use their DCup, and WeedEater flowerpot. The only electronics are the PID, the rest should last......
someTooL
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Whew. As I reread this I realize how much I must of enjoyed.
In all seriousness the vrod has reached another level with me. Picked some “drier” then the normal sticky concentrates. Turned out to be a blessing. I’ve been doing one session instead of 3-4. Been at the same setting (642 on mine) and the results are outstanding. And...seems to be more efficient. More testing will be needed.
Edit. Corrected setting. 442 lol
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somethingcool
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I am a concentrate noob, still experimenting with different grades and prices. Got some real nice live resin diamonds the other day that are barely sticky crystals, it's more like a scoop and drop in the dish vs a sticky dab you have to melt off. Easier to handle and consume IMHO, very nice.
I'm gonna have to experiment with lower temps, you are 442 F PID temp with SiC dish? I've been running 666 F capped for trates, I know I could go lower but that's way down there, wow.
Edit: Pic of the fun selection
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someTooL
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@somethingcool fixed that temp. What I’ve been trying definitely looks like the two middle pics. I’m a C noob too.
somethingcool
Member
That's more like it, 642. Yeah I'm gonna try a bit lower temp with the diamonds, I've mostly been temp experimenting with some cheap pull and snap (not pictured) and saving the good stuff for when I have it dialed in, but I think better quality let's you lower temps a bit. See if you can find some fully crystalized diamonds like the one on the right, bit spendier but I'm really liking.
In the pic it's left to right badder, badder, sugar sauce, diamonds.
goatgobaahh
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Just scooped up the Vrod. Should be here Friday (always feels like Christmas when a package from newvape comes).
Being a total noob to concentrates all I need are some qtips and ruby/saphire balls? Then rub the sic dish once I’m done with the dab until the qtip is clear?
I have a carbcap but it’s the one that only has one hole. That might mess with how many of the balls I can have in my SiC dish. Are they even necessary? I can’t imagine where I’d store them unless I can keep them in the SiC dish 24/7.
Being a total noob to concentrates all I need are some qtips and ruby/saphire balls? Then rub the sic dish once I’m done with the dab until the qtip is clear?
I have a carbcap but it’s the one that only has one hole. That might mess with how many of the balls I can have in my SiC dish. Are they even necessary? I can’t imagine where I’d store them unless I can keep them in the SiC dish 24/7.
Enquiring minds want to know. It is very important to keep your balls safe. Please advise on proper care and use of the jewels. Thanks.
tb42091
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Right, dry qtip until it is clean, I also make sure to wipe the dish nut and underside of the cap.
Pearls aren't necessary but I think they make a noticeable positive difference. I leave them in my dish 24/7. When I qtip, I basically lay the qtip on its side on the top of the pearls and twist the qtip in my fingers so it wipes them off and spins them at the same time. I use both sides of 2 qtips and by the end it should be pretty clean. I usually reuse the second qtip as the first qtip for the next dab too.
As far as ruby/sapphire care, they are sensitive to thermal shock. So if you are going to clean them with a liquid, make sure they are not hot. You can still use up to 4-5 pearls with the one hole cap.
Pearls aren't necessary but I think they make a noticeable positive difference. I leave them in my dish 24/7. When I qtip, I basically lay the qtip on its side on the top of the pearls and twist the qtip in my fingers so it wipes them off and spins them at the same time. I use both sides of 2 qtips and by the end it should be pretty clean. I usually reuse the second qtip as the first qtip for the next dab too.
As far as ruby/sapphire care, they are sensitive to thermal shock. So if you are going to clean them with a liquid, make sure they are not hot. You can still use up to 4-5 pearls with the one hole cap.
goatgobaahh
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Found some tips a few threads back pages 713-714
EDIT: The search function kind of sucks on an iphone.
Zangano Cruel
IG zan.cru (code) zancru (5% NV checkout discount)
I bought every kind of flavor pearls, terps balls, and so and so.
Used them on the D-Cup, on the OG VROD 28mm d-Nail SiC, and on the new revised wrenched slightly bigger 28.5mm SiC dish.
Used them Ruby pearls with the 30mm Opaque Toro Grail Quartz banger too.
They all are a waste of money and time, and an extra step on unnecessary cleaning imho & e.
Unless you really go to town in cleaning them while on the dish, you’ll need extra q-tipping and ISO to really totally clean them, other way they’ll be smoking for a time in your hot VROD or D-Cup or next time you torch your quartz banger.
You’ll need a few extra more, if you dab often or a different container to clean them.
Be aware of hot flying disappearing terp balls.
If you uncap by mistake while they’re still spinning, they can fly. Sometimes if you’re really stoned, and you just want to vape flower, and you did a previous dab, you’ll forget you have your balls on top of the dish, and you’ll drop them very hot unaware of what happened.
Stoned happens!!!
Unless you do tiny dabs, and still with tiny dabs, those fast speeding spiraling zoom zoom “terp pearls” will be pushing your oil/dab upward the side wall of your dish, overflowing to colder parts of the dish, or dripping between the dish retaining nut on top, or between the dish and D-Cup wall or dish/VROD base.
YMMV, but I don’t really recommend the usage of any kind of balls while dabbing.
Proper dab size, placement and technique will go farther than terp balls.
Stay vaped.
Mantente de la mente!!!
Used them on the D-Cup, on the OG VROD 28mm d-Nail SiC, and on the new revised wrenched slightly bigger 28.5mm SiC dish.
Used them Ruby pearls with the 30mm Opaque Toro Grail Quartz banger too.
They all are a waste of money and time, and an extra step on unnecessary cleaning imho & e.
Unless you really go to town in cleaning them while on the dish, you’ll need extra q-tipping and ISO to really totally clean them, other way they’ll be smoking for a time in your hot VROD or D-Cup or next time you torch your quartz banger.
You’ll need a few extra more, if you dab often or a different container to clean them.
Be aware of hot flying disappearing terp balls.
If you uncap by mistake while they’re still spinning, they can fly. Sometimes if you’re really stoned, and you just want to vape flower, and you did a previous dab, you’ll forget you have your balls on top of the dish, and you’ll drop them very hot unaware of what happened.
Stoned happens!!!
Unless you do tiny dabs, and still with tiny dabs, those fast speeding spiraling zoom zoom “terp pearls” will be pushing your oil/dab upward the side wall of your dish, overflowing to colder parts of the dish, or dripping between the dish retaining nut on top, or between the dish and D-Cup wall or dish/VROD base.
YMMV, but I don’t really recommend the usage of any kind of balls while dabbing.
Proper dab size, placement and technique will go farther than terp balls.
Stay vaped.
Mantente de la mente!!!
goatgobaahh
Well-Known Member
Great advice! I’m going to keep my balls away from this setup!I bought every kind of flavor pearls, terps balls, and so and so.
Used them on the D-Cup, on the OG VROD 28mm d-Nail SiC, and on the new revised wrenched slightly bigger 28.5mm SiC dish.
Used them Ruby pearls with the 30mm Opaque Toro Grail Quartz banger too.
They all are a waste of money and time, and an extra step on unnecessary cleaning imho & e.
Unless you really go to town in cleaning them while on the dish, you’ll need extra q-tipping and ISO to really totally clean them, other way they’ll be smoking for a time in your hot VROD or D-Cup or next time you torch your quartz banger.
You’ll need a few extra more, if you dab often or a different container to clean them.
Be aware of hot flying disappearing terp balls.
If you uncap by mistake while they’re still spinning, they can fly. Sometimes if you’re really stoned, and you just want to vape flower, and you did a previous dab, you’ll forget you have your balls on top of the dish, and you’ll drop them very hot unaware of what happened.
Stoned happens!!!
Unless you do tiny dabs, and still with tiny dabs, those fast speeding spiraling zoom zoom “terp pearls” will be pushing your oil/dab upward the side wall of your dish, overflowing to colder parts of the dish, or dripping between the dish retaining nut on top, or between the dish and D-Cup wall or dish/VROD base.
YMMV, but I don’t really recommend the usage of any kind of balls while dabbing.
Proper dab size, placement and technique will go farther than terp balls.
Stay vaped.
Mantente de la mente!!!
RustyOldNail
SEARCH for the treasure...
I bought every kind of flavor pearls, terps balls, and so and so.
Used them on the D-Cup, on the OG VROD 28mm d-Nail SiC, and on the new revised wrenched slightly bigger 28.5mm SiC dish.
Used them Ruby pearls with the 30mm Opaque Toro Grail Quartz banger too.
They all are a waste of money and time, and an extra step on unnecessary cleaning imho & e.
Unless you really go to town in cleaning them while on the dish, you’ll need extra q-tipping and ISO to really totally clean them, other way they’ll be smoking for a time in your hot VROD or D-Cup or next time you torch your quartz banger.
You’ll need a few extra more, if you dab often or a different container to clean them.
Be aware of hot flying disappearing terp balls.
If you uncap by mistake while they’re still spinning, they can fly. Sometimes if you’re really stoned, and you just want to vape flower, and you did a previous dab, you’ll forget you have your balls on top of the dish, and you’ll drop them very hot unaware of what happened.
Stoned happens!!!
Unless you do tiny dabs, and still with tiny dabs, those fast speeding spiraling zoom zoom “terp pearls” will be pushing your oil/dab upward the side wall of your dish, overflowing to colder parts of the dish, or dripping between the dish retaining nut on top, or between the dish and D-Cup wall or dish/VROD base.
YMMV, but I don’t really recommend the usage of any kind of balls while dabbing.
Proper dab size, placement and technique will go farther than terp balls.
Stay vaped.
Mantente de la mente!!!
This should be a forum STICKY. Like many I tried BALLS, everything Cruel lists is true. Balls put away.
But hey, have fun....
vaping herbs
Well-Known Member
Do you know if there is a discount code for FC members?
I am convinced. I don’t need to be hunting around my hardwood floors for 699 degree little glass balls to burn into the ends of my fingers when I forget I was hunting someting hot in the excitement of finding them. Thank you.I bought every kind of flavor pearls, terps balls, and so and so.
Used them on the D-Cup, on the OG VROD 28mm d-Nail SiC, and on the new revised wrenched slightly bigger 28.5mm SiC dish.
Used them Ruby pearls with the 30mm Opaque Toro Grail Quartz banger too.
They all are a waste of money and time, and an extra step on unnecessary cleaning imho & e.
Unless you really go to town in cleaning them while on the dish, you’ll need extra q-tipping and ISO to really totally clean them, other way they’ll be smoking for a time in your hot VROD or D-Cup or next time you torch your quartz banger.
You’ll need a few extra more, if you dab often or a different container to clean them.
Be aware of hot flying disappearing terp balls.
If you uncap by mistake while they’re still spinning, they can fly. Sometimes if you’re really stoned, and you just want to vape flower, and you did a previous dab, you’ll forget you have your balls on top of the dish, and you’ll drop them very hot unaware of what happened.
Stoned happens!!!
Unless you do tiny dabs, and still with tiny dabs, those fast speeding spiraling zoom zoom “terp pearls” will be pushing your oil/dab upward the side wall of your dish, overflowing to colder parts of the dish, or dripping between the dish retaining nut on top, or between the dish and D-Cup wall or dish/VROD base.
YMMV, but I don’t really recommend the usage of any kind of balls while dabbing.
Proper dab size, placement and technique will go farther than terp balls.
Stay vaped.
Mantente de la mente!!!
thevapist
Well-Known Member
I would never use concentrate in my VROD without pearls and I have a 2 hole cap. The falling out argument is silly, as it's the same as flowerpot head burning you argument, just be careful and it's well worth it. The balls cool very quickly once they fly out anyway. They've never burned anything of mine the few times they did fall out.
Cleaning balls is a non-issue. Just q-tip as normal. That guys rigs look like they've never been cleaned and he's talking about that
I use 3 SiC pearls in SiC dish and 3 ruby in quartz dish. All you can do is try for yourself.
Cleaning balls is a non-issue. Just q-tip as normal. That guys rigs look like they've never been cleaned and he's talking about that
I use 3 SiC pearls in SiC dish and 3 ruby in quartz dish. All you can do is try for yourself.
Zangano Cruel
IG zan.cru (code) zancru (5% NV checkout discount)
A thin layer of Sour Tangie flower.
Some sprinkles of Sour Tangie live resin sugar.
A micro dab of same Sour Diesel live resin sugar.
Dirty rigs, dirty bowls, dirty dabbers...
I’m a dirty guy
So much Sativas during daytime gives me the dirty shakes
Proof is on this next “twaxing” video.
Dedicated to all those that vape from “dirty things”...
Stay vaped.
Mantente de la mente!!!
Sativa Shakes Included
(4K60fps where available)
Video was blocked due to copyright claims with original music.
Edited with free music from YouTube library.
Some sprinkles of Sour Tangie live resin sugar.
A micro dab of same Sour Diesel live resin sugar.
Dirty rigs, dirty bowls, dirty dabbers...
I’m a dirty guy
So much Sativas during daytime gives me the dirty shakes
Proof is on this next “twaxing” video.
Dedicated to all those that vape from “dirty things”...
Stay vaped.
Mantente de la mente!!!
Sativa Shakes Included
(4K60fps where available)
Video was blocked due to copyright claims with original music.
Edited with free music from YouTube library.
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somethingcool
Member
I just ordered a Dnail Comet Sphere Intro Pack + SS catcher tongs for $27.50 on Monday afternoon, got em today and so far it seems pretty cool. For 9 balls and some tongs it seems like a good deal and the tongs make it pretty easy to handle so I can pull em out of the dish while hot.
Only tried running one ball so far, using the one hole universal cap, you sometimes have to spin cap a quarter turn to get the ball going but it spins well on it's own after that.
I was assuming the extra thermal mass and surface area of the ball would help in achieving complete vaporization, but @Zangano Cruel makes some good points as always. Poor me, I'll have to experiment more to decide
Only tried running one ball so far, using the one hole universal cap, you sometimes have to spin cap a quarter turn to get the ball going but it spins well on it's own after that.
I was assuming the extra thermal mass and surface area of the ball would help in achieving complete vaporization, but @Zangano Cruel makes some good points as always. Poor me, I'll have to experiment more to decide
Hippie
Well-Known Member
@vaping herbs - not that I know of, at the moment.
There was a 10% off code for FC members but it got disabled shortly after I mentioned it in the Herborizer thread last year
There was a 10% off code for FC members but it got disabled shortly after I mentioned it in the Herborizer thread last year
Zangano Cruel
IG zan.cru (code) zancru (5% NV checkout discount)
More dirty rigs and nasty stuff to watch for...
and of course more shakes....
and more shakes and technical difficulties
Stay vaped.
Mantente de la mente!!!
and of course more shakes....
and more shakes and technical difficulties
Stay vaped.
Mantente de la mente!!!
What's up all! So I have been writing out an article on how temps work with the flowerpot. I know yall are what we'd consider experts, but if you can look at it from the point of view of a beginner that has just bought one, I think that would be ideal.
I'll park this here for now, I'd appreciate any feedback if you feel so inclined to contribute. I'll be sure to add any info that is relevant and important to the article.
Thanks in advance!
Vaping flower and temps.
The subject of temperatures is one that is widely discussed on Reddit and FuckCombustion.com and other outlets and one that seems to bring a bit of confusion due to its complexity.
There are many devices on the market that are sold with preset temperatures. What this means is that you press one button and the unit gives you a preset temp that you will have to adjust to.
The Flowerpot is so versatile in so many ways, but its main feature is the ability to dial in your specific temp for the job at hand. Until the flowerpot, this was just not possible in a "bong rip" type scenario.
The way the temps work on the Flowerpot platform is complex to say the least but if we put a little time in understanding the intricacies and variables, we may just be on our way to our "sweetspot". Let's break some of these down.
*Before we do, let me clarify that the these variables have been tested and are considered from the standpoint of having a fine grind and a loading tool's scoop full of material.
It all starts with the PID temp...
The first common misconception is that we are vaping at the temperature described by the PID Controller. This is not true. But in order to understand why, we have to understand what the goal at hand is, and that is simply to warm the air that hits the flower to vaping temperature. (I found an article that perfectly described a range of temps that I think we can all agree on HERE)
"You will learn that changes in your vaporizer temperature have the potential to change the chemical structure and therefore the medical effects and taste of your marijuana vapor.
Get started below with our simple quick-guide:
So with this in mind, we have to understand that 650F set on our PID will deliver approximately 375F-400F to the bowl.
It is from this point that we feel its best to start experimenting. A good rule of thumb here is to decrease temp (10F at a time) for more flavor and increase temp (10F at a time) for more vapor, until you find that ideal balance.
Draw Strength
Another variable that will affect the temps delivered to the bowl is your draw strength. One of the great pros of the Flowerpot is that you do NOT have to adjust your draw strength, but you can set it up to adjust to YOUR draw strength. Another point in the versatility column.
With this said, there are a couple of ways that you can maneuver the FlowerPot to adjust to your draw.
1) Temp Increase/Decrease - It is important to remember to keep your draw as "normal" and comfortable as possible while finding the right temp. At the above described temp of 650F, we recommend a slow to medium draw for best results. At this point, if you are getting some whispy vapor, it'll be recommended to increase your temp (again, 10F at a time). On the flipside, if you are getting really dense vapor or even slightly combusting, you are urged to lower the temp.
2) Use a Carb Cap - It is debatable whether the carb cap is necessary or not. One thing that is certain is that a carb cap will aid vapor production. I would personally recommend that you start at your "whispy" temp setting and then add the carb cap in small increments (3-5 seconds at a time) to really milk up that rig.
I tend to want lower temps (for flavor) and use a carb cap to aid vapor production. I do not think this is necessary if you are getting healthy full hits without it. However, if you draw extremely hard and fast, it is possible that you may need to do both, increase temp and use a carb cap for best results.
I'll park this here for now, I'd appreciate any feedback if you feel so inclined to contribute. I'll be sure to add any info that is relevant and important to the article.
Thanks in advance!
Vaping flower and temps.
The subject of temperatures is one that is widely discussed on Reddit and FuckCombustion.com and other outlets and one that seems to bring a bit of confusion due to its complexity.
There are many devices on the market that are sold with preset temperatures. What this means is that you press one button and the unit gives you a preset temp that you will have to adjust to.
The Flowerpot is so versatile in so many ways, but its main feature is the ability to dial in your specific temp for the job at hand. Until the flowerpot, this was just not possible in a "bong rip" type scenario.
The way the temps work on the Flowerpot platform is complex to say the least but if we put a little time in understanding the intricacies and variables, we may just be on our way to our "sweetspot". Let's break some of these down.
*Before we do, let me clarify that the these variables have been tested and are considered from the standpoint of having a fine grind and a loading tool's scoop full of material.
It all starts with the PID temp...
The first common misconception is that we are vaping at the temperature described by the PID Controller. This is not true. But in order to understand why, we have to understand what the goal at hand is, and that is simply to warm the air that hits the flower to vaping temperature. (I found an article that perfectly described a range of temps that I think we can all agree on HERE)
"You will learn that changes in your vaporizer temperature have the potential to change the chemical structure and therefore the medical effects and taste of your marijuana vapor.
Get started below with our simple quick-guide:
- 320°F(160°C) – 356°F(180°C): Very light mostly mental medication and best for flavor (great if you still havee a lot to do that day);
- 356°F(180°C) – 392°F(200°C): Great flavor with good medication level, bodily effects will be more apparent;
- 392°F(200°C) – 446°F(230°C): Best if you don’t have anything else to do that day, very strong level of medication, heavy bodily effects."
So with this in mind, we have to understand that 650F set on our PID will deliver approximately 375F-400F to the bowl.
It is from this point that we feel its best to start experimenting. A good rule of thumb here is to decrease temp (10F at a time) for more flavor and increase temp (10F at a time) for more vapor, until you find that ideal balance.
Draw Strength
Another variable that will affect the temps delivered to the bowl is your draw strength. One of the great pros of the Flowerpot is that you do NOT have to adjust your draw strength, but you can set it up to adjust to YOUR draw strength. Another point in the versatility column.
With this said, there are a couple of ways that you can maneuver the FlowerPot to adjust to your draw.
1) Temp Increase/Decrease - It is important to remember to keep your draw as "normal" and comfortable as possible while finding the right temp. At the above described temp of 650F, we recommend a slow to medium draw for best results. At this point, if you are getting some whispy vapor, it'll be recommended to increase your temp (again, 10F at a time). On the flipside, if you are getting really dense vapor or even slightly combusting, you are urged to lower the temp.
2) Use a Carb Cap - It is debatable whether the carb cap is necessary or not. One thing that is certain is that a carb cap will aid vapor production. I would personally recommend that you start at your "whispy" temp setting and then add the carb cap in small increments (3-5 seconds at a time) to really milk up that rig.
I tend to want lower temps (for flavor) and use a carb cap to aid vapor production. I do not think this is necessary if you are getting healthy full hits without it. However, if you draw extremely hard and fast, it is possible that you may need to do both, increase temp and use a carb cap for best results.