Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

[Likes2vape]

@NewVape710 Instead of having the groove go all the way to the top just leave a lip at the top with a groove in the “middle” so you’d have to screw the handle all the way out to slip over the top and screwed back in to go in the grove. It would minimize any gaps and keep the .01 seal around the entire bowl.


If it doesn’t make sense please ignor me!!! I’ll probably never order one as I just don’t have a problem with bowls sticking normally. They look bad ass but I’m really waiting for the quartz/glass bowl!!!!

 

[Likes2vape]

No groove is needed at all. If you have an adjustabowl you can test this right now.

I don’t have one and will probably never order one as I just don’t have a problem with my bowls sticking.

IMO if there’s no groove someone is going to complain that it spins or something like that. At least with a groove with a lip it can “lock” the stem/bowl in position.

 

[Cannabis-Hardware-Ed]

I personally use these parts multiple times each day and haven't found any issues with leakage around the milled slot. Please use the parts for a few days and allow the natural residue to fill in any gaps. Should you prefer to speed the process up just add a little reclaim to the area in question. As I mentioned before anyone not happy with the parts that they receive are more than welcome to return them for a full refund prior to use (excluding shipping). Our return policy can also be found here.

Anyone interested in reading my initial response to @steama that kicked off this dispute about his leaking bowl here it is.

He then sent me a real nasty personal email. (so he has my personal email)

Not being satisfied with my response he then decides to begin making false claims that "I attacked him".

 

[Likes2vape]

If the groove stops and there is a lip at the top of the stem than it keeps the .01 gap all the way around the bowl which is the same as the head unit bowl set up. I don’t notice any air coming in between there.


Either way would work but that would be my solution.

 

[Square4Life]

This is how the air is getting in and it is getting in. To test clog the bowl and draw on your water piece. There should be nothing but if bubbles are bubbling you have a leak.

The red marks show where the outside air is entering from. The same gap as shown here in these images:

You need one to know I guess. I can tell you the groove is not needed as I tested it.

It all goes back to my original concerns..., if the flat, bottom part of the bowl and the top, flat part of the glass joint is creating the seal...this isn't that crazy to understand how it has an air leak. Your titanium parts may be accurate and level but the glass will vary greatly. And then the internal leak you speak of wouldn't be internal as the two air paths (gap between the two bowls and gap between upper bowl and glass joint) connect allowing "unvaped air" in.

Unless I'm way off base...

Sometimes I feel ghostly LOL
You think yours is better than mine?

haha

 

[Mr. Gweilo 420]

@NewVape710 I am interested in your products but find living in Asia I am geoblocked from your website. Anything we can do here? Im not really sure of the purpose as a VPN and a forwarding company ensure everything is global. However, I would prefer to deal with you directly if that can be made possible. Cheers

Bueller, Bueller ...

 

[Cannabis-Hardware-Ed]

Bueller, Bueller ...

Please email me your parts list and shipping address I will send you an e-invoice. We have no short term plans of opening up china to our web site. Please don't take any personal offense to this decision.

 

[Chicken #420]

What a difference 50 pages (and one GIANT ego) make!

Oh my God... this is fucking EPIC!!!

Edwyn, Mr. "Collaborative Engineering" from a few pages ago, is now realizing that attacking me and telling me that I cause him stress so he doesn't want to communicate with me (for sharing my negative findings on the Adjusta-Bowl and offering solutions, then asking for feedback on the recommendations) probably wasn't such a good idea. Now your problems are multiplying, Edwyn, and you don't have the messenger (me) to claim as the only thing wrong! You now have many irate customers who are noticing some of the same things I did during beta testing. You cannot plead ignorance or say this is false, as I am willing to post the beta test report here if you push this. I have no confidentiality agreement in place with you.

Edwyn... You can put out a match, my friend, but the blazing inferno is not so easy to quell!

Folks... I poured my heart into beta testing Edwyn's new Adjusta-Bowl, because I wanted it to be the very best product possible to fill its role. I wrote pages of design observations and alternative machining options for Edwyn to consider, without asking for payment, recognition, or store credit of any kind. At the time, I loved NewVape above all other businesses I had ever dealt with, so much that I willfully ignored many, many warning signs that I shouldn't have.

For my trouble, our glorious leader in the NewVape revolution ignored me, did not ship me an updated bowl following my recommendations (which forced me to buy my own "alpha" updated bowl to see what he changed for the alpha rollout), and then as the ultimate insult did not seem to implement ANY of the main recommendations I submitted before a super fast "alpha" rollout followed by almost immediate retail availability. My purchased "alpha" bowl is identical to my original beta test bowl, from every aspect I am able to see... and photos of the production bowls look identical too. I started wondering why he would even bother to do a beta test, if he was going to ignore the feedback. When questioned about these issues, Edwyn informed me that it's his company, he hates collaboration of any kind, and that communicating with me stresses him out and he does not communicate with people who stress him out. He has avoided communication since.

I'm done with Edwyn and NewVape. I have never seen such a level of complete disrespect, lack of communication, and biting the hand that feeds it as I have seen with Edwyn and his business. He has made it quite literally impossible for me to continue supporting him and his "my way or the highway" attitude.

Too bad... I was an idealogically motivated true believer when it comes to NewVape, and they are not going to find a whole lot more of those if Edwyn holds on to his "I can do no wrong" and "my dumbass customers are trying to look smart by attacking me" attitude. Edwyn... you are standing on the shoulders of giants (your customers) and it is NEVER a good idea to undermine that support base.

Oh... and BOOOOO!! on what you did to Steama, Edwyn... you couldn't have chosen a more kind, helpful and ardent supporter of you and your company to alienate.

I have no fear posting any of this, because I know it to be true. I hope all of you posting here can say the same!

So long, folks... I truly won't be back in this thread after this post, unless forced.

P.S. The FlowerPot and ShowerHead are undoubtably THE finest vaporizers on the market. Please continue enjoying them, until something better happens some day! That is also the truth!

Peace out.

 

[Cannabis-Hardware-Ed]

Hello, good people!

I have been close-mouthed so far with respect to the new 2-Piece male bowls that NewVape has released. There is a good reason for that.

A little over a week ago, Edwyn contacted me and asked if I would be willing to beta test one of the new bowl prototypes under development... because of the large number of glass rigs I own and my mechanical background. He asked that I not reveal anything about the bowl to this forum until he released the product, to not "let the cat out of the bag" so to speak. I agreed, beta test bowl was ordered, and the testing was underway!

I have been putting the new 2-Piece prototype through its paces diligently since Monday. I have reported all my various findings to Edwyn for bowl improvement and fine-tuning, and this morning I received permission from Edwyn to post openly about my experiences with the new bowl.

This is what I have to report:

1 - The new 2-Piece bowl is designed to be a single locked unit that, once adjusted, is moved as a single piece to and from the pipe connection. This is the preferred user "mode", and it works very, very well at stopping the sticking that I and others have talked about in this thread. Because the base of the bowl is "snugged" up to the glass connection "lip" then tightened, the stem of the bowl cannot get "wedged" deeper into the glass joint by heat expansion, weight of FlowerPot handle, etc. The most I've been able to achieve in the way of deliberate sticking that siezes the joint has been maybe 2 or 3 seconds... the multiple minute cooldown wait time is now a thing of the past!

2 - The new bowl can be used in a second (unintended by the original design) "removeable bowl" mode. Twisting the handle, the top of the bowl can be removed for quick debowl and reload... leaving the stem of the bowl in the pipe the whole time. This has been my own personal "preferred mode" of use, though I have given the primary (single-piece) mode the bulk of my test time.

3 - The new bowl works with both 14mm and 18mm pipe connection "stems"... so only one bowl needs to be bought to cover both sizes. I do not know yet if both sizes of stems will come with the bowl, or if NewVape will be selling them seperately.

4 - The new bowl is exquisitely machined, like all of NewVapes products, and simply REEKS of quality and purpose-built style. It looks good, feels good, and has a magnificent balance and weight to it.

5 - There are several minor design issues involving the handle, the stems, and the question of further weight reduction... which were initially discussed then implemented or abandoned. The final version for sale should have all discussed improvements and flaws corrected.

6 - This bowl works GREAT on every pipe, ash catcher, and J-Hook that I tried it on, repeatedly and consistently, for several days in a row.

7 - The new male bowls have a single screen "ledge" - this is NOT the multiple-screen-shelf "Party Bowl" or "Adjustable Size Bowl" that many of you have been waiting for.

8 - I want another one with the final production changes! . Off to order now.


Hope this all helped some... please feel free to ask if you have any questions!

Here is the @Chicken #420 report in question.

message 1
Edwyn,

Thank you for considering my suggestions. Here are some answers to your questions, along with a few new observations.

Heaviness is definitely a 2-edged sword, balancing material thickness (and associated quality) with light weight. The ShowerHead is a heavy piece of kit, and you are going to be adding the weight of the bowl and hoping that it does not stress the glass joint to the point of failure. I personally want to hang the lowest amount of mass off the end of my valuable pipes, but that's just my preference. My thoughts are this: Titanium is already a very strong material for its weight, and you can go MUCH thinner and still have total support and strength without failure...

I would personally see if you might be able to get rid of just a bit more weight, without compromising strength. I think your customers will thank you.


I have worked with the new bowls on many, many pipes at this point, and I will say in an unqualified, no-holds-barred way with ZERO ambiguity that the new bowls not only resolve the bowl sticking issue, but they do it in a nearly perfect and foolproof way! Because I can remove the top of the bowl while still leaving the stem in the glass inlet taper, the sticking issue no longer causes issue during normal use. I can vape, remove the top of the bowl, debowl and dump (with only slightly modified technique from the old bowl design), then re-unite the two parts and load another bowl! This is perfect... I can't think of a better way of solving the problem! As for tapered bowl stems sticking in the glass tapers, I have not had any problems so far... the tapers behave identically to the tapers on your old style bowls (if/when they stick, they release from the glass taper easily as they cool - typically within a minute or two).


I love the bowl depth.


I love the newer more intense beveling on the bowl lip.


I wish there was a little optional Titanium sleeve available that I could drop in the bowl, on top of the screen, which would reduce the diameter of the bowl center portion to the same as the bowl stem outlet hole diameter. It would need to be a tight (0.010"-0.015") fit to the I.D. of the bowl, and would need to be the full height of the bowl inside section. This would let me permanently "herd" the herb into the center of the screen, where air path will be full-on, unlike the edges which get marginally cooked by the convection air. Perhaps a deep-cut groove on the I.D. about 3/16" from the lip on both ends, 0.075" wide, for easy extraction with a screwdriver or penknife? Still thinking on this.


I would suggest that the 60 Deg. point does very little extra (if any) that the normal handle ends do... so I suppose removing it would be a good idea... provided there is not some purpose to it that I do not understand. I have found that the end of one of your "normal" handles or dabbers will exert seemingly the same amount of locking action on the stem as the 60Deg. seems to be exerting.


I am recommending that you ABSOLUTELY shorten the length of the threaded side hole on the new bowls... so that your "normal" handles and dabbers will reach the bowl stem to lock it. I am also recommending that you remove the milled slot on the stems that the handle end engages... this seems to be more problematic than beneficial in any way. At this point, I put the bowl stems in my pipes with the slot facing the body of the pipe... so that I never "run into it" with the end of the handle when tightening. That tells you how much I like the slot approach.


I will continue testing, and write more over the next few days.


Be well,


email 2 from chicken420

Edwyn,

I have been experimenting with the new bowl as a single-piece locked together moveable assembly. It has been very enlightening! My conclusions? I can find no significant faults in the current incarnation of the design using the milled flat and 60 Deg pointed handle. My only "complaint" about the design, if you can call it a complaint, is that it takes a good bit of torque to get it good and solid sometimes... almost requiring a tool. Love the functionality though... it only seems to stick for a few seconds at most on the 5 pipes I've tried it on so far!

I would still STRONGLY recommend that you shorten the threaded hole depth on the side of the bowl (by turning down the O.D.) to a depth that your normal handles and dabbers can be used as a "pincher" to the outside of the cylinder, for people like myself who might prefer the "removeable-top bowl" approach to using this thing.

Other thoughts:

Total 180 on this one.

I am really, REALLY appreciating the weight and balance of the new bowl when used as a removeable linked unit with the stem combined. My previous thoughts that it was a bit heavy were based on using it as a removeable bowl section with handle, but the weight and balance when combined with the bowl stem is much better, Actually, I think it is close to perfect... I would not change it at all. It is aesthetically beautiful too!

More to follow.

Be well,
Chicken420

 

[lazylathe]

I thought the whole idea behind the adjust-a-bowl was to:
1- place stem part in WT
2- place collar over to lock stem position so the collar seals to your WT?

I think i remember a video or post about this?
That is the whole reason i bought it.

I need to go find that video or post!

Found it:

So it does use the collar section to provide the seal against your WT's joint.
It also assumes your joint to be perfectly flat and level for correct function.
This would mean in ideal circumstances that the air gap is internal and will not affect performance.
Perhaps an o-ring to seal with the weight of the SH on top would be an easy fix!
OR, sorry thinking about this more, limit the length of the adjustment slot and move handle hole higher up?

 

[Chicken #420]

Edwyn, you know what report I'm talking about.

Let me refresh your memory:

The changes I suggest here are twofold.

#1 - Consider removing the handle engagement groove entirely. I have actually found that the handle engages the bowl stem just fine at ANY point around the circumference, and often seems like an even better connection than when it engages the flat of the machined groove. You would save a machining step, eliminate a source of air leaks (the handle point does not fully "fill" the groove cross section, leading to a bit of leakage from the bottom), and eliminate a "flaky catch zone" where the handle engages near the edge of the groove.

#2 - Consider shortening the threaded inlet hole material thickness by about 0.050". This will allow users to grab any handle or dabber they have, and use it with the new bowls.

Notice the bold yellow section. Do you suppose there is any relevance to what we've been discussing in this thread lately? Oh... one other thing. That is the report I wrote while waiting to get the updated bowl with all the changes that you never bothered to send me... and what I wrote was based on the "fact" that you would be making design changes to fix problems before alpha release.

Continuing to backpeddle and deceive will only call me back to this thread. I am not afraid of you, Edwyn... and I won't hesitate to point out falsehoods flung in my direction.

... He really got upset when I chose not to peruse his titanium j-hook idea.

I made the J-Hook suggestion because it is a GREAT idea, would make YOU a ton of money, and other forum members and my NewVaping friends (YOUR CUSTOMERS!!!) wanted it too. Upset? Not that you didn't make it, just about the way you let yourself down by not even considering it and discussing real options to make it happen on your "collaborative engineering" forum.

P.S. Edwyn, THANK YOU for posting the full text of my 2nd and 3rd reports to you. Now the entire forum can see how much time, attention, and care I put into improving your product. Forum members here can now see all the recommendations you didn't bother to reply about or act on. This is not helping your case!

Please don't call me back with more deception that demands exposure... I'd like to move on.

 

[Cannabis-Hardware-Ed]

Ok I'll remove the milled slot and reduce the clearance from .01" to .005" between the post and bowl. It's a simple and easy change. I'll ship out the updated posts to anyone that requests them next week. Please email sales@newvape.com if your interested in receiving one.

 

[dontmindme]

Ok I'll remove the milled slot and reduce the clearance from .01" to .005" between the post and bowl. It's a simple and easy change. I'll ship out the updated posts to anyone that requests them next week. Please email sales@newvape.com if your interested in receiving one.

Can you test if a longer stem might stabilize it more due to the coil and its wiring?

On the flip side to reduce cost... maybe just a insert for that slot? This makes a seal up top wherever the stem is placed?

 

[Cannabis-Hardware-Ed]

Can you test if a longer stem might stabilize it more due to the coil and its wiring?

On the flip side to reduce cost... maybe just a insert for that slot? This makes a seal up top wherever the stem is placed?

Re machining the posts is easier, cheaper and reduces any additional fiddle factor. Yes I will explore adding length on the bottom end of the post for added stability. Can you please try and elaborate on the stability request? If the head is removed straight up it doesn't lift the body. Originally I was concerned about the non sticking bowls lifting out when the head is removed but the added weight of the bowl seems to do a good job of staying down. Is your idea that the added length will aid this issue? Or is your idea the added stability will reduce the opening at the top of the joint caused by uneven forces from the cable and handle?

 

[dontmindme]

I just think centering it might have a better time dealing with the stack up...

I think it deals with both personally...

Its like walking on your tippy toes.

Apparently not all glass joints are flat... you used to play with hemp... im wondering if two opennings on the other end (of the handle) that lead upwards from right next to each other, tied and you create a oring or seal because it will deal with the indifferences. But thats just a thought... and i dont know the practicality.

Its hard to be precise and accomdate all the vast variations at the same time.

Either way... this thing works for me.

 

[Ech0_]

Hi all, My Flowerpot w/ SH turned up Friday and i've just managed to pop over to work to pick it up and I had a few questions / queries which are are unfortunately made worse by all this talk of air leaks... (apologies for wall of text / over explaining... I have a habit of worrying i'm not being clear enough..)

TL,DR at bottom.

• I ordered a Showerhead set + Adjusta-bowl 18mm male set + Enail handle + Hot resting post thing + Double weave ti screen.
  
  After opening everything I can only see 1 screen which seems more like a default screen which came with the bowl as opposed to a $6.75 doubleweave ti one (see img below), have they forgotten to put it in with my order or is that really a doubleweave screen?
  
  
  
  
  
  
• How do you wrap the handle properly? and will the almost waxy residue on the hemp disappear with use?
  
  (Is it as simple as poking one end of the hemp thread though to the screw side of the handle, tying a knot then wrapping it around handle till you reach the other end and poking it through again to screw side before tying it off with a knot and cutting off excess?)
  
  
• Air leaking issue:
  
  After reading the latest stuff on the thread just after placing my order I wanted to post what my newly arrived and never used setup (not heated up, nor had any herb through it etc just assembled and placed into a clean 18mm joint) is performing like it is actually supposed to as there are a few concerning things i've seen after testing and reading this thread and I don't want to use the new bowl if it doesn't work properly as I won't be able to refund it then as far as i'm aware?
  
  To make a few things clear since things have gotten a bit heated in the thread around this issue.. - [1] I'm sucking/inhaling as hard as I possibly can in all videos, [2] The adjustabowl isn't reinstalled in between videos, it was fitted multiple times until I got the best result then all videos filmed in 1 go without changes [3] The unit isn't in the videos nor has it ever been turned on and heated up so if thermal expansion is supposed to tighten up the joints etc then thats not happening in the videos, [4] Enail coil is this one from DHGate (https://www.dhgate.com/product/240v-uk-version-electric-dab-nail-without/403371731.html) [5] The bubbler cost ~£130 and is not cheap crap from China and is filled with piece water, not regular water if that makes a diff? [6] I don't own an OG bowl nor have I used (put any herb through it...) the vape at all due to the adjustabowl issues being reported, [7] This is my first time uploading videos so sorry about the crappy quality of phone camera / any mistakes etc
  
  Bubbler + Glass insert test:
  
  (This is a test so you can see what happens with a 18mm glass extension adapter thing from China inserted into the bubbler, the end blocked by palm of hand then testing sucking/inhaling bubbler as hard as a possible while also rocking / moving piece about by the glass adapter thing the same as what I did to the adjustabowl / full unit etc.
  
  
  
  Bubbler + Stem test:
  
  
  
  Sealed Ajustabowl test:
  
  (Performed steps exactly as described in the NewVape Adjustabowl Installation Video on YT to fit the bowl to my bubbler, next I wrapped the top of the bowl in cling film and then double looped an elastic band round it to seal it tight.... tested air tightness with and without downwards pressure on bowl... result is the same... negligible air passing through... will not affect performance in a noticeable way.... next tested slightly tilting/rocking the bowl by tensing hand against bubbler base (not v hard, just enough to replicate the weight/leverage of the SH set + coil + handle) while still pushing down onto bowl... as you can see significant amounts of air leaks through a gap created between both bowl/stem and glass, the movement of bowl/stem witnessed using this method is same as what you see when the whole thing is setup normally and you just rest the SH set + coil + handle onto the bowl)
  
  
  
  Sealed shower head test:
  
  (This video is with cling film + elastic band sealing the showerhead nut to make it air tight then putting the showerhead set with coil directly onto the adjustabowl, I then put pressure vertically down to ensure the adjustabowl isn't rocked to one side plus also ensure that the showerhead set + coil is sitting squarely on top of the bowl... there is ever so slightly more air leakage now than with sealing top of bowl as its a metal on metal contact but thats still not a meaningful amount of air passing through IMO.... HOWEVER when I then release all pressure and let handle /coil etc hang freely then test draw resistance... the draw resistance is almost comparable to a Mighty run through a bubbler with an empty chamber and a 14mm CU water tool adapter connecting them... does this get better when heated and the metal expands / is it the adjustabowl making it seem much worse than normal? (vs if I was using an OG Bowl) as thats a hell of alot of air passing through despite the showerhead top sealed shut.
  
  

TL,DR To summarize... my concerns are:

- Missing doubleweave ti screen or is that actually a doubleweave?

- How to wrap handle properly without fucking it up? (It looks so pretty when done right)

- Will hemp handle wrap waxy residue disappear with use?

- The rocking/tilting of the adjustabowl when the weight and leverage of SH set + enail coil and handle are hanging off it causing air leak between the metal and glass - is this what other people are seeing happen? (Also it seems like the down stem ends up sitting in the joint about 50% less deep than normal adapters... this might explain the stem / bowl tilting when leveraged weight is added....)

- The air passing through the gap between bowl and unheated showerhead set when your not holding the handle to cause the showerhead set to sit squarely and firmly on top of bowl..... does the same result happen between OG Bowl and adjustabowl anyone know? And / or Is it due to it not being heated up and the gap is to stop sticking when thermal expansion happens etc and is expected behavior in that case?

 

[Andreaerdna]

Too much love can quickly become obsessional...
...and then passing from love to hate is a very little step

 

[Cannabis-Hardware-Ed]

Hi all, My Flowerpot w/ SH turned up Friday and i've just managed to pop over to work to pick it up and I had a few questions / queries which are are unfortunately made worse by all this talk of air leaks... (apologies for wall of text / over explaining... I have a habit of worrying i'm not being clear enough..)

TL,DR at bottom.

• I ordered a Showerhead set + Adjusta-bowl 18mm male set + Enail handle + Hot resting post thing + Double weave ti screen.
  
  After opening everything I can only see 1 screen which seems more like a default screen which came with the bowl as opposed to a $6.75 doubleweave ti one (see img below), have they forgotten to put it in with my order or is that really a doubleweave screen?
  
  
  
  
  
  
• How do you wrap the handle properly? and will the almost waxy residue on the hemp disappear with use?
  
  (Is it as simple as poking one end of the hemp thread though to the screw side of the handle, tying a knot then wrapping it around handle till you reach the other end and poking it through again to screw side before tying it off with a knot and cutting off excess?)
  
  
• Air leaking issue:
  
  After reading the latest stuff on the thread just after placing my order I wanted to post what my newly arrived and never used setup (not heated up, nor had any herb through it etc just assembled and placed into a clean 18mm joint) is performing like it is actually supposed to as there are a few concerning things i've seen after testing and reading this thread and I don't want to use the new bowl if it doesn't work properly as I won't be able to refund it then as far as i'm aware?
  
  To make a few things clear since things have gotten a bit heated in the thread around this issue.. - [1] I'm sucking/inhaling as hard as I possibly can in all videos, [2] The adjustabowl isn't reinstalled in between videos, it was fitted multiple times until I got the best result then all videos filmed in 1 go without changes [3] The unit isn't in the videos nor has it ever been turned on and heated up so if thermal expansion is supposed to tighten up the joints etc then thats not happening in the videos, [4] Enail coil is this one from DHGate (https://www.dhgate.com/product/240v-uk-version-electric-dab-nail-without/403371731.html) [5] The bubbler cost ~£130 and is not cheap crap from China and is filled with piece water, not regular water if that makes a diff? [6] I don't own an OG bowl nor have I used (put any herb through it...) the vape at all due to the adjustabowl issues being reported, [7] This is my first time uploading videos so sorry about the crappy quality of phone camera / any mistakes etc
  
  Bubbler + Glass insert test:
  
  (This is a test so you can see what happens with a 18mm glass extension adapter thing from China inserted into the bubbler, the end blocked by palm of hand then testing sucking/inhaling bubbler as hard as a possible while also rocking / moving piece about by the glass adapter thing the same as what I did to the adjustabowl / full unit etc.
  
  
  
  Bubbler + Stem test:
  
  
  
  Sealed Ajustabowl test:
  
  (Performed steps exactly as described in the NewVape Adjustabowl Installation Video on YT to fit the bowl to my bubbler, next I wrapped the top of the bowl in cling film and then double looped an elastic band round it to seal it tight.... tested air tightness with and without downwards pressure on bowl... result is the same... negligible air passing through... will not affect performance in a noticeable way.... next tested slightly tilting/rocking the bowl by tensing hand against bubbler base (not v hard, just enough to replicate the weight/leverage of the SH set + coil + handle) while still pushing down onto bowl... as you can see significant amounts of air leaks through a gap created between both bowl/stem and glass, the movement of bowl/stem witnessed using this method is same as what you see when the whole thing is setup normally and you just rest the SH set + coil + handle onto the bowl)
  
  
  
  Sealed shower head test:
  
  (This video is with cling film + elastic band sealing the showerhead nut to make it air tight then putting the showerhead set with coil directly onto the adjustabowl, I then put pressure vertically down to ensure the adjustabowl isn't rocked to one side plus also ensure that the showerhead set + coil is sitting squarely on top of the bowl... there is ever so slightly more air leakage now than with sealing top of bowl as its a metal on metal contact but thats still not a meaningful amount of air passing through IMO.... HOWEVER when I then release all pressure and let handle /coil etc hang freely then test draw resistance... the draw resistance is almost comparable to a Mighty run through a bubbler with an empty chamber and a 14mm CU water tool adapter connecting them... does this get better when heated and the metal expands / is it the adjustabowl making it seem much worse than normal? (vs if I was using an OG Bowl) as thats a hell of alot of air passing through despite the showerhead top sealed shut.
  
  

TL,DR To summarize... my concerns are:

- Missing doubleweave ti screen or is that actually a doubleweave?

- How to wrap handle properly without fucking it up? (It looks so pretty when done right)

- Will hemp handle wrap waxy residue disappear with use?

- The rocking/tilting of the adjustabowl when the weight and leverage of SH set + enail coil and handle are hanging off it causing air leak between the metal and glass - is this what other people are seeing happen? (Also it seems like the down stem ends up sitting in the joint about 50% less deep than normal adapters... this might explain the stem / bowl tilting when leveraged weight is added....)

- The air passing through the gap between bowl and unheated showerhead set when your not holding the handle to cause the showerhead set to sit squarely and firmly on top of bowl..... does the same result happen between OG Bowl and adjustabowl anyone know? And / or Is it due to it not being heated up and the gap is to stop sticking when thermal expansion happens etc and is expected behavior in that case?

Screen:
The screen in the photo doesn't appear to be the double weave.
The screens that come packaged with the bowls are the basic beamer titanium screen (in your photo)
If you purchased the double weave screen it will be in it's own package with the material cert.

Hempwick:
The hempwick has been dipped in bees wax. This sticky residue will dissipate over time.
Start by clamping the 2 halves together like in this video the large end towards the cable.

Next install wick thru one of the 2 thru holes and tie a simple knot and pull snug.
The slowly wrap the wick around the handle. Final step is to thread the wick thru the second hole and tie the knot.

Adjusta bowl sealing:
The premise of this design requires the bowl sits flat on top of the glass joint shutting off external air.
If the intended glass is not completely flat air will enter around the milled flat. I will be producing new posts with 1/2 the clearance between the bowl and post and without the milled slot next week. Any leaks you are experiencing now should be more than cut in half with the next rev posts. My suggestion is for you to go ahead and use the device. Please understand that I can't condone shipping back dirty parts. However with light use a good cleaning I'm sure you can make them like new again for a return. We do have several alternate bowls that seal differently.

Please email sales@newvape.com if you find that the double weave screen is missing or you would like the receive the updated adjusta-bowl post when available.

I hope this helps and you enjoy your new Flowerpot.

 

[Baron23]

Anyone interested in reading my initial response to @steama that kicked off this dispute about his leaking bowl here it is.

He then sent me a real nasty personal email. (so he has my personal email)

Not being satisfied with my response he then decides to begin making false claims that "I attacked him".

Wow, and this is your response to the open board which is what I thought kicked off this whole donnybrook.

It amazes me that there was no mention of leaks or diluted vapor during the alpha release. I've circled around and spoken with multiple adjusta-bowl customers each confirming the benefits of non sticking far outweigh any con. There is clearance around the moveable posts and bowl. Any leaking around those areas would only result in an internal leak. Please study the photo below. There's also clearance between the coil nut and bowls .01" in fact. No complaints of diluted vapor there. There's absolutely no way to prove or disprove any vapor is being diluted. That's a crazy unverified claim. Please consider that there are people here who thrive on drama, and love to show off their smarts at the expense of others. I've offered to completely refund people that are not 100% satisfied with any newVape part. Instead they must get more satisfaction of dragging me thru the f-ing mud.

I'm not looking to climb back into this whole thing....neither the heated interpersonal debate nor the engineering of the Pan Head.

But even with perfectly milled glass and Ti bowl, this is not going to result in a fully sealed joining. It is why people use o-rings and gaskets when they try to seal two adjoining surfaces.

I beleive in my initial post I acknowledged that there seemed to be multiple plausible sources for the somewhat less thick vapor but a small air leak was probably a contributor. I also believe in my initial review of the Pan Head that I found satisfactory performance, albeit slightly diluted vapor in comparison, with it in an 18 mm joint with no drop down or adapter and a higher temp.


Cheers

 

[Justpassedu]

Been using the adjust a bowl all weekend. In all honesty I don’t want to get caught up in the drama. From my experience using it , it works and it works well. Is there a slight air leak ? Yes , very minor and for me I have not noticed any drop in performance due to this. It seems to have variance from piece to piece that I use. Some glass I have it is almost unnoticeable due to the way the bowl mates with the joint of my glass, with others I can plug the top of the bowl and get a few bubbles but my vapor has still been thick compared to using any of my other bowls. If it’s bothering you , I have tried the oring as steama had mentioned and found just one did the trick , the other method was what I believe at NewVape stated in the beginning with a video , use a piece of tape right below between the bowl and fitting , I tried electrical , it can’t be seen , keeps everything neat and no bubbles appeared in my test.

 

[Baron23]

use a piece of tape right below between the bowl and fitting , I tried electrical , it can’t be seen , keeps everything neat and no bubbles appeared in my test.

If I'm correct, that tape was just there temporarily as a "spacer" to when setting bowl height on the stem.

You took the electrical tape off after assembly and prior to use, right?

 

[Justpassedu]

If I'm correct, that tape was just there temporarily as a "spacer" to when setting bowl height on the stem.

You took the electrical tape off after assembly and prior to use, right?

Yes only bc I was afraid of it’s temp rating but as a fix use a piece of heat shrink tubing with a high temp rating in place , that will fix any air leakage or a tape with the proper heat rating that is safe .

 

[jardri]

I want to say something: This still is one of the best vaporizers on Earth. We are making a mountain out of a stone. Edwyn may not be the best salesman but he loves his job and he takes it to a very high standard so he feels it as his boy and he passionately defends it. This is not a negative aspect as it really shows his compromise and proudness dont blame him for being an artist. Passion and love can move the world but they can be misunderstood and we all are humans who can make one million mistakes, but in the end it is our one little sucess what matters.

 

[Cannabis-Hardware-Ed]

Ok Here's my leak test for the Panhead and Shovelhead bowls.

 

[Justpassedu]

Ok Here's my leak test for the Panhead and Shovelhead bowls.

That filled perfectly , I’m sure you don’t do this on the regular but I been actually rocking the adjust a bowl around during hits trying to see if it helps fill better like one would do spinning a Carb cap to move the air in different directions. Just experimenting and having fun .