Gnome34
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Have you done a dab by itself in the pro? I'm curious how it compares to a normal dab rig.
Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer
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I haven't, but the t bucket is the same and the dabs are cooler then regular glass dabs because of the vapor path
fiixed
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I'd be curious as well, got the B2 just haven't used it yet.
greenganja
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I have to admit alas you are not wrong.
I have to say, you were not wrong. LOL. Works great.
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coolbreeze
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Glad you're enjoying it!I have to admit alas you are not wrong.
I have to say, you were not wrong. LOL. Works great.
Youve got that thing dialed in!
Anotherfist75
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Balls from the walls for me( b1 and b zero)
redrum891
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I know there are tons of info in this forums but mind if I ask a quick question about the flowerpot? I plan on purchasing one from vgoodies, from what I've seen the b1 seems to work better but easier to combust?.... I don't plan on dabbing, I hear the b2 has a better learning curve to it.
I can't decide on the b1 or b2, others tell me to just grab the b0, or another type but if I'm going to spend $200+ on a vape, I want to make sure I get one that doesn't have me wishing I got the other version.
I'm a noobie at vaping, my first purchase was a volcano hybrid and then a mighty + for my father who is a med patient, are pretty much the same unless you want balloons. Now I enjoy vaping and love bong rips
also does vgoodies have black friday deal? or christmas? I don't mind waiting for a good deal but the coupons I have won't work for heavies.
I can't decide on the b1 or b2, others tell me to just grab the b0, or another type but if I'm going to spend $200+ on a vape, I want to make sure I get one that doesn't have me wishing I got the other version.
I'm a noobie at vaping, my first purchase was a volcano hybrid and then a mighty + for my father who is a med patient, are pretty much the same unless you want balloons. Now I enjoy vaping and love bong rips
also does vgoodies have black friday deal? or christmas? I don't mind waiting for a good deal but the coupons I have won't work for heavies.
greenganja
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The B0 will work with both 14 mm & 18 mm injector bowls. With the B0 or B1 injector kit you would have a lot of choices of bowls to use. I recently purchased a B1 setup with the 22 mm diffuser head and shovel head bowl. It works great. The next couple of weeks later I purchased the B1 injector head also from Vgoodiez. This way you have the ability to use the diffuser head or the injector head. I think Vgoodiez also recently got some new glass bowls that pair up with the 22 mm diffuser head. If you are looking to save money then go with the B0, you will not be disappointed. If money isn't a sticking point then go for which ever setup appeals to you most. I personally like the airflow of the B1 with the 3 mm rubies. I'll probably be scooping one of those glass bowls that work with the 22 mm diffuser as well. Give Vgoodiez a call and they can answer all of your questions and help you make a decision on which one to purchase.
redrum891
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I see that the b2 can only use a shovel head?
the b1 can use many type of injectors? They also updated the b2 to have better airflow to match the b1 now(from what i read i think?)....
My first instinct is to grab the latest, it only cost $25 more and can dab but doesn't seem it can use any other injectors, while the b1(not sure if the b2 now has the airflow of a b1 now ?) can use lots of different types.....sooo not sure which to do
I will grab a 18mm shovel probably and just toss 14 to 18mm adapters on any bubblers that are 14mm, even though 14mm shovel would be easier and just use drop down adapter for 18mm pieces. Just seems that perfect air flowing over the entire bowl is the best selling point on deciding which, unless you don't want a shovel head?....
edit :: after looking, it seems I had it backwards or the updated version fixed it but the B2 definitely seems to cover the top and give full air flow, while the b1 fits inside the shovel, making it more narrow aka less radius for heat to hit the flower? so a b2 would be best?
thanks
sorry for being a noob.
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bizwaxzion
Enigmatic Cannabist
@redrum891 b0 is an injector head. b1 and b2 can be either 22mm or injector depending on what bowl you want to use. my vote is for b1 with 3mm rubies topping a shovelhead. glass bowls are nice though so i may get an injector defuser and bowls down the road.
redrum891
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ahh so yeah, b1 and b2 can have interchange both to be injector or shovelhead.
Just on vgoodies b2, needs to have it changed out if you want to use injector style bowls with it. Soooooooooooo yah, mybad!
Why does the b2 look so much stronger looking? Also I heard the b1 had better air flow than the b2 but they fixed that now?..
bizwaxzion
Enigmatic Cannabist
The b2 has more mass and a dab dish on top. Im not one to dab on these things, got other tools for that. The b1 is purpose built to vape flower only like its predecessor the weedeater. b1 has always been more open but some dont value that trait.
greenganja
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The only difference between the B2 & B1 is the dab dish and the nut on top of the B2 head. I do dab, but I have a whole rig set up for just dabbing only. So I didn't need the B2 for dabs. Besides the problem with trying double deckers is that if you turn the heat up on your pid high enough for dab's you could possibly combust the flower. Also another reason I opted not to get the B2 was the fact that if I did dab off the top of the B2 dab dish, that the reclaim is moving through the balls inside the head assembly. I don't want to have to clean all that resinous reclaim out of the balls. So I chose the B1 it looked to me from the photo's to have better airflow due to the double weave screen on top. And it does have great airflow. And the B1 with 22 mm diffuser head will milk up a bong just as quick as the B2 will. The 420VapeZone review comparing the B1 to the B2 prefers the B2 because he likes the little bit of restriction that the B2 offers. I think Vgoodiez suggest the 4 mm balls for the B2 to allow for better airflow. It all boils down to what your preferences are. As many of others on here have stated, you can always experiment with different ball configurations to see what works best for you. Some people really like the SIC balls. My 3 mm rubies seem to work just fine so I will pass on paying the premium price for the SIC balls. But I'm sure they work great.
redrum891
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can vgoodies swap out the injector on the b1 bundle for the shovel head only injector? That was my main reason for wanting the b2 over b1.
I agree, I think double decker is just a fun thing people do. I think it's made to either dab or vape dry herb. If I want to get into dabbing or when my state becomes a friendly place, I'll just grab an electric rig probably or just use my klein with a torch.
greenganja
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Yes Vgoodiez can swap out the injector head for the 22 mm diffuser head with the shovel head bowl. It's the same package that I ordered when I got my B1. Just call them and let them know that you want the standard 22 mm diffuser head then they will ask you what size post do you want for your shovel head bowl and if you want the one with the Ed's TNT handle or regular handle on the side of the shovel head. Keep in mind that adding the shovel head bowl will add an additional $45 or $50 dollars to the bundle price.
Hippie
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It's all modular so all the B1 B2 and VROD parts fit each other
Don't forget you'll need their carb cap to dab on the VROD B2 - which adds to the price
If you go 22mm you'll need their stand, and a Shovelhead bowl (or a 3rd party one if you can find them)
If you go injector you have more choice of bowls and stands
I bought a VROD essentials kit, then the B1 top, an injector bottom and a baller bottom so I think I can make all 6 variations with those parts.
Aaaand also picked up a B0 and tried a few glass bowls and different size rubies ... lol
And mostly use the B2 (VROD top) with the 22mm baller bottom and a Plusplus glass bowl on the downstairs bubbler and the B1 injector on a Qaroma bowl on the upstairs bubbler.
The B2 has a little less airflow than the B1 as it has a smaller inlet but the performance is very samey to be quite honest, altho I'm not sure I've got mine setup the same as everyone else as I put a Shovelhead screen in the VROD to keep the balls in (instead of buying the B2 nut and a new carb cap to fit over the nut) so there are no balls restricting the airflow in the thin section above the coil.
If I was starting again I'd buy the B1 injector with 3mm rubies, a 20mm coil and controller, a Qaroma bowl, and a generic stand for herb; and buy another coil and a banger or an e slurper, and carb cap for dabbing.
Don't forget you'll need their carb cap to dab on the VROD B2 - which adds to the price
If you go 22mm you'll need their stand, and a Shovelhead bowl (or a 3rd party one if you can find them)
If you go injector you have more choice of bowls and stands
I bought a VROD essentials kit, then the B1 top, an injector bottom and a baller bottom so I think I can make all 6 variations with those parts.
Aaaand also picked up a B0 and tried a few glass bowls and different size rubies ... lol
And mostly use the B2 (VROD top) with the 22mm baller bottom and a Plusplus glass bowl on the downstairs bubbler and the B1 injector on a Qaroma bowl on the upstairs bubbler.
The B2 has a little less airflow than the B1 as it has a smaller inlet but the performance is very samey to be quite honest, altho I'm not sure I've got mine setup the same as everyone else as I put a Shovelhead screen in the VROD to keep the balls in (instead of buying the B2 nut and a new carb cap to fit over the nut) so there are no balls restricting the airflow in the thin section above the coil.
If I was starting again I'd buy the B1 injector with 3mm rubies, a 20mm coil and controller, a Qaroma bowl, and a generic stand for herb; and buy another coil and a banger or an e slurper, and carb cap for dabbing.
redrum891
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I'm curious about the injector, it can be used on the shovel and glass parts.
but the 22mm that fits for the shovel only, make that big of a difference?... it cost a good bit to go shovel mod only or injector and use all including the shovel?
I do want that feel of a hard hitting bong hit that knocks you out. unfortunately I don't live in a good state so doing dabs here and there while using my mighty isn't a choice, otherwise I would probably just keep a mighty and puffco for dabs.
I got some good stuff, my avb isn't super dry after a session also. Wondering how much I am wasting? Any other mid grade cannabis usually gets real dark, guessing the RH isn't properly dried on it?
feralcomprehension
Qualified Observer
I bought all the parts as well and prefer the non-injector+shovelhead by a lot. Ime it was harder to get.consistent results with the injector because the distance from the bottom screen to the load.was.much farther with it than with the 22mm female diffuser.
Hippie
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No I don't use the injector with the Shovelhead as the injector fits inside the Shovelhead and touches the herb
With the 22mm and Shovelhead combo the balls are a little closer to the herb so you run it at a lower temp than an injector head and bowl combo, to achieve the same temp in the bowl.
With the 22mm and Shovelhead combo the balls are a little closer to the herb so you run it at a lower temp than an injector head and bowl combo, to achieve the same temp in the bowl.
redrum891
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wait, the shovelhead bowl cannot be used with the injector version? I thought I saw it in the pic of the shovel head bowl being used by the injector
i thought that maybe I could use the shovel + elev8 bowl, just the non injector reaches the outer edges better on the shovelhead?
sorry im new to this. Trying to figure out on what to do, I was told to wait for a tinymight 2 but I couldn't and got a mighty+ and realize that s&b to a non vaporizer is the only brand we think is worth anything, now I realize everyone who told me to not get a volcano were right....the mighty basically feels the same when using the whip.
I just don't want to spend another $400+ and be saying "fuck, i wish i picked up this and this instead" I do think the volcano will be great for legalization when it hits in my state, non cannabis users will look at a balloon as not being a drug, plus the big bowl and a whip will allow a few bit of people to puff puff pass.
the 22mm attachment will hit the edges too but removes my ability to use any glass, just wondering if I should go injector and grab the shovel and elev8 bowl
just seems going shovel only to injector, both options cost around $100 just to be able to roast the edge, aka hit the entire bowl on the shovel...I don't know how the hits are on glass or the shovel. I just want to be sure before I purchase.
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greenganja
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You can use the injector with the shovel head bowl. The injector does fit inside the shovel head bowl. With the injector you can use with either glass injector bowls or the shove head bowl. In order tu use the injector with the shovel head bowl you will need to put less weed int he shovel head bowl. As the injector fits inside of the shovel head and if you load too much herb in the bowl the injector will sit on top of the weed the injector head touching the weed. The shovel head is really designed to be used mostly with the 22 mm standard diffuser head. However as I said you can use it with the injector head just a word of caution on filling the bowl all the way with herb. I have both the 22 mm standard head and the injector head. Both head's work great. My suggestion would be to just get the B0 for less money if you want the injector head. Or if you don't like the exposed coils of the B0 then a B1 Injector head setup would be a good choice. The fact that the coil is covered on the B1 doesn't really matter that much since the outside of the housing get's hot anyway so it can still burn you even though the coil is covered by the top nut of the B1. If exposed coil doesn't matter then the B0 is a great choice and will save you some money. B0 setup is about $260 at Vgoodiez. Honestly between the injector vs. 22 mm diffuser the injector with a glass bowl will give you tasty rips vs. a shovel head bowl. You can also find the Solid State glass bowls that are specifically made to use with the 22 diffuser head. Hope this helps, mmmkay.
And as a side note. You could could always order the shovel head bowl as a stand alone item. I think Vgoodiez sales just the shovel head bowl with the titanium post for $50 dollars. So you could always add the shovel head later. Trust me the injector head with a glass injector bowl will work just fine and still rip as hard as the shovel head and it provides great flavor. Being an owner of both diffuser heads I can tell you that I slightly prefer the injector head over the 22 mm diffuser. The standard diffuser works great but currently you only have two options for the 22 mm standard diffuser and that would be shovel head bowl or Solid State glass bowl. If you were to ask which one works better, I couldn't really say that one works better than the other. They both work really well. I prefer the injector due to the bowl options.
And as a side note. You could could always order the shovel head bowl as a stand alone item. I think Vgoodiez sales just the shovel head bowl with the titanium post for $50 dollars. So you could always add the shovel head later. Trust me the injector head with a glass injector bowl will work just fine and still rip as hard as the shovel head and it provides great flavor. Being an owner of both diffuser heads I can tell you that I slightly prefer the injector head over the 22 mm diffuser. The standard diffuser works great but currently you only have two options for the 22 mm standard diffuser and that would be shovel head bowl or Solid State glass bowl. If you were to ask which one works better, I couldn't really say that one works better than the other. They both work really well. I prefer the injector due to the bowl options.
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redrum891
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yup, I e-mailed and asked and basically was told the exact same thing lol....
well troy posted new vid, he's using the injector now he says. I fucking hate how a youtuber can have such big influence lmao...I'm trying to get lit like troy.
I'll probably make an early christmas present for myself soon then. I'll sit on it a little, I jump into stuff way too fast. I have thefreezepipe shit I spent $600 trying to "cool" my bong hits, then got a volcano for my father due to being sick. Now I find vaping better and sad I spent too much money when I could have had some sick setups. The mighty is nice though, volcano ofc is best all around but I'm a loner stoner!
Hippie
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You caaaan use an injector head with a shovelhead bowl but I don't as the head touches the herb and it isn't a good fit
I dunno what the 18mm Elev8R bowl is like but I thought their 14mm added too much restriction for my liking, and there wasn't an 18mm option at the time so that's why I bought the Qaroma one (which has better flow and dimples to hold the screen in altho it doesn't make a great seal with the injector to be honest)
I dunno what the 18mm Elev8R bowl is like but I thought their 14mm added too much restriction for my liking, and there wasn't an 18mm option at the time so that's why I bought the Qaroma one (which has better flow and dimples to hold the screen in altho it doesn't make a great seal with the injector to be honest)
redrum891
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just curious, someone said there were 22mm glass bowls for the standard version. are those worth grabbing and having both options? or is there con to doing that?