Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

[ichibaneye]

Ok guys need a bit of info from FP owners. I got a sapphire insert today to pair with my still need to buy dnail SiC dish, I'll be attaching the SiC to the flower pot (16mm) again when I come to buy it.

My conundrum is to do with the locking nut on both the dnail SiC and the flower pot, while I know the sapphire insert will rest on the dnail locking nut I don't yet know if said locking nut is the same thread as the standard flower pot?

Can someone owning both either test the locking nut from dnail SiC on the flowerpot or just show me a picture of how it sits? I doubt the flowerpot locking nut will be compatable when using the sapphire insert?

NV told me that their own nut will work with the D-nail Sic halo. I'm not sure about with the added insert though. As I'm not familiar with what actual sapphire insert you're attempting to use. Like you I'm looking at sapphire options myself. Flavor heaven!



@NewVape710 How goes your sourcing search for a new insert/dish provider coming, were you able to lock in that American made goodness? Thanks.

 

[VisiblyVaped]

@anasrzi
I don't have an insert or the D nail dish. I do however have experience. I'm sure you already know this, but don't over tighten the nut.

Bad things have happened to those who did and then tried to loosen it for cleaning. Just firm enough.....

 

[wibbleplonk]

@NewVape710 I notice you've listed the newly designed shower head, sans 3/4 Showerhead nut. Are you concerned that the increasing number of options might become a tad confusing to a prospective new buyer?

My suggestion would be to create a compatibility matrix which shows buyers which combinations of pieces comprise a valid configuration, in an easy to read format. You could even link to bundles for each combo. Just a thought. (:

PS. The Flowerpot Frequently Asked Questions page linked from the FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer page appears to be broken.

 

[ichibaneye]

@NewVape710 I notice you've listed the newly designed shower head, sans 3/4 Showerhead nut. Are you concerned that the number of options might become a tad confusing for a prospective new buyer?

My suggestion would be to create a compatibility matrix which shows buyers which combinations of pieces comprise a valid configuration, in an easy to read format. You could even link to bundles for each combo. Just a thought. (:

PS. The Flowerpot Frequently Asked Questions page linked from the FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer page appears to be broken.

You noticed the dead link too. I was just emailing them now about that. I had noticed it last week. No need to now thanks to you. Cheers!

 

[Justpassedu]

NV told me that their own nut will work with the D-nail Sic halo. I'm not sure about with the added insert though. As I'm not familiar with what actual sapphire insert you're attempting to use. Like you I'm looking at sapphire options myself. Flavor heaven!



@NewVape710 How goes your sourcing search for a new insert/dish provider coming, were you able to lock in that American made goodness? Thanks.

ichibaneye while the Dnail Sic dish does fit perfectly with all new heads designed as of maybe a month back on the NewVape Head the actual inserts will not fit . Basically the insert sits on a ledge built into there nut and not on the actual dish. By sitting on the ledge it is creating Convection effect. The actual nut that comes with the dishes does not fit the NewVape threading. So the inserts cannot be used but the actual dishes fit perfect using the Newvape nut. A special nut would have to be created by new vape to accommodate this but i don't see it so likely since NewVape eventually will have there own Sapphire i believe and that could cut into sales.

 

[ichibaneye]

ichibaneye while the Dnail Sic dish does fit perfectly with all new heads designed as of maybe a month back on the NewVape Head the actual inserts will not fit . Basically the insert sits on a ledge built into there nut and not on the actual dish. By sitting on the ledge it is creating Convection effect. The actual nut that comes with the dishes does not fit the NewVape threading. So the inserts cannot be used but the actual dishes fit perfect using the Newvape nut. A special nut would have to be created by new vape to accommodate this but i don't see it so likely since NewVape eventually will have there own Sapphire i believe and that could cut into sales.

I should have clarified more completely. I was speaking to NV's own nut and not the one from Dnail. My apologies for any confusion NV heads.

@Justpassedu thank you for that very detailed visually painted information. I'm right up to speed now because of that. You spekszen mee lingo!

To clarity I'm also just going to be using Dnail's actual Sic Halo instead of NV's (TAG's) Sic up top. I hope this makes better sense.

I have been a bit sleep deprived lately I'll try to keep a better lock on things. Much love family, cheers!

@VisiblyVaped long time no post. It's great to see you around. How's your FP treating you these days. Are you two still on your honeymoon?

 

[Justpassedu]

I should have clarified more completely. I was speaking to NV's own nut and not the one from Dnail. My apologies for any confusion NV heads.

@Justpassedu thank you for that very detailed visually painted information. I'm right up to speed now because of that. You spekszen mee lingo!

To clarity I'm also just going to be using Dnail's actual Sic Halo instead of NV's (TAG's) Sic up top. I hope this makes better sense.

I have been a bit sleep deprived lately I'll try to keep a better lock on things. Much love family, cheers!

Np buddy , i happen to really like the Tag Sic dish NV provides but my only problem with it is for a group setting or large dab its a bit harder to use. The quality is nice , its just the Dnail is a bit more refined and works better for the larger dabs. I have a hard time telling a taste difference between them though.

 

[ichibaneye]

Np buddy , i happen to really like the Tag Sic dish NV provides but my only problem with it is for a group setting or large dab its a bit harder to use. The quality is nice , its just the Dnail is a bit more refined and works better for the larger dabs. I have a hard time telling a taste difference between them though.

Solid, this is good news as I've always planned on owning both from the beginning. Thanks for keeping everyone sharp up in here. Major kudos, pot brownie points and gold stars have now been awarded to you.

 

[Cannabis-Hardware-Ed]

It's going to be a couple of days until the FAQ page is updated. I disabled for now.

yes I agree it's going to get confusing with all the parts. What bundles should I make? I do like the idea of a compatibility matrix.

SIC dishes should be back in stock tomorrow.

 

[Baron23]

It's going to be a couple of days until the FAQ page is updated. I disabled for now.

yes I agree it's going to get confusing with all the parts. What bundles should I make? I do like the idea of a compatibility matrix.

SIC dishes should be back in stock tomorrow.

Or perhaps just have a cascading list of things to be ordered in a kit with a little logic behind it to prevent ordering incompatible parts. Just a thought (shite...I do have a lot of those little buggers. LOL)

 

[ichibaneye]

-THE PARTS DEBACLE

If anything at all under each part for sale, bullet point the compatible part numbers. Maybe make those compatible part numbers live links too. Thus allowing a customer fast access to the other photos and information.

Simple, less bandwidth used on your end and no charts needed to navigate. I think this would flow nicely with your currently created website.

I'm personally fine with how it is now but workable improvements are always welcomed of course.

If I may suggest something here for NV. On many of your items there is virtually zero information or details. I'm all about details, details, details. This helps on so many levels. That and a few different angles when photographing your parts. I think this is very important. One big reason is that it allows the customer to become far more intimate with a particular product.

I will say this, you do have one of the least cluttered sites around and it's looks are on point with easy navigation. So overall I'm happy.

 

[grokit]

Np buddy , i happen to really like the Tag Sic dish NV provides but my only problem with it is for a group setting or large dab its a bit harder to use. The quality is nice , its just the Dnail is a bit more refined and works better for the larger dabs. I have a hard time telling a taste difference between them though.

The tag dish seems like it would be a little simpler to q-tip though, with the narrower trough?

 

[morvis]

SIC dishes should be back in stock tomorrow.

Sweet! Primed to click the submit order button on Friday XD!

 

[ichibaneye]

The tag dish seems like it would be a little simpler to q-tip though, with the narrower trough?

Hey pal but isn't q-tipping already simple. I mean it's just dip and swirl is all. I had to zing ya @grokit Nothing but love for my folks in here!

You would for sure be using far less cotton with NV's dish when compared to Dnails. I'm sure the smaller dish is faster to clean but it would be by a miniscule margin don't you think?

 

[grokit]

@ichibaneye
I'm being serious! When q-tipping the dnail dish, it's wide enough that you have to go around the inner and outer walls separately. I'm thinking with a narrower gap to wipe, one-pass cleaning could be possible.

 

[ichibaneye]

@ichibaneye
I'm being serious! When q-tipping the dnail dish, it's wide enough that you have to go around the inner and outer walls separately. I'm thinking with a narrower gap to wipe, one-pass cleaning could be possible.

I'm being serious too. I was having a bit of light heated fun is all.

Honestly though it's a very simple and easy process is all it meant. I was not shaming you or anything.

I'm so use to crazy levels of clean that I'll never one pass swipe anything clean. I always go over things a couple of times at least if not more. Cheers mate!

 

[Cannabis-Hardware-Ed]

Those are welcome suggestions. thank you

My current temp on the shower head with coil cover is 620. I'm allowing 60 additional sec after the controller hits temp. The coil cover seems to help reduce heat up times. I'm going to compare against my mighty.

I to like the sung fit of the qtip when cleaning.

 

[StormyPinkness]

I reshaped my coil so it's more flush against the dish and is snug against the bottom. Afterwards I was able to turn my temperature down over 100 degrees and still get my dish to 550 for dabbing with flower. Abv came out black/brown in center though. I dialed it down until I got a temp I liked for flower and the dish was well under 500 at that point. 520 is the lowest I've really been able to do dabs. I'm going to see if that new head design works better for me I think. Also still need to try the 2 coil method like @grokit when I get a flat coil that fits.

Awesome, I'm still in two minds about whether to pick up the bundle or get the Auber (I'm a sucker for a rotary dial) with the FP coil and solder a 5 pin XLR on it. Having the option is nice!

If I had to do it over again I'd 100% get their coil and controller/pid. My auber coil has been a pain trying to get the flower and concentrates both at a temperature I want to vape at.

 

[VisiblyVaped]

Those are welcome suggestions. thank you

My current temp on the shower head with coil cover is 620. I'm allowing 60 additional sec after the controller hits temp. The coil cover seems to help reduce heat up times. I'm going to compare against my mighty.

I to like the sung fit of the qtip when cleaning.

I think the coil cover and the showerhead are most intriguing. Please keep posting your own results. I sometimes find 620 too low on my set up so I'm very curious. It depends on the material though.

@ichibaneye what's up?!
We're past the honeymoon stage and quickly moved into happily married. We don't see each other as often, and we spend time apart hanging with others, but our quality time is still quality. There's nothing but love between us.


She's even cool with my portable side piece (vapcap) since she knows I have needs that being tethered can't fulfill..

Love my FP

 

[ichibaneye]

Those are welcome suggestions. thank you

My current temp on the shower head with coil cover is 620. I'm allowing 60 additional sec after the controller hits temp. The coil cover seems to help reduce heat up times. I'm going to compare against my mighty.

I to like the sung fit of the qtip when cleaning.

You and I seem to run similar numbers for temperature. Good numbers at that as far as I'm concerned. Hehe.

I noticed that when I finally had my Liger that heat up time was faster with the cover when compared to exposed coils.

I figured this would happen based on the trapped heat. Plus the fact that the covers are of such little metal mass that they heat to temperature basically at the same rate as the coils do.
This also would allow for more heat transfer and at a faster rate to the main body in my thinking.

I look forward to trying this temp. with the FP next week. I'm sure 620 is flavor country.

How about a little video for us of you enjoying those 620 rips? Pretty please!

I reshaped my coil so it's more flush against the dish and is snug against the bottom. Afterwards I was able to turn my temperature down over 100 degrees and still get my dish to 550 for dabbing with flower. Abv came out black/brown in center though. I dialed it down until I got a temp I liked for flower and the dish was well under 500 at that point. 520 is the lowest I've really been able to do dabs. I'm going to see if that new head design works better for me I think. Also still need to try the 2 coil method like @grokit when I get a flat coil that fits.


If I had to do it over again I'd 100% get their coil and controller/pid. My auber coil has been a pain trying to get the flower and concentrates both at a temperature I want to vape at.

Are you happy with the controller at least? Did you ever get your temps. dailed on the controller? I'm still waiting on the thermometer I've ordered to get my controller super dialed in.

 

[Chingas]

My VAS itches.

Regarding the NV enail controller...What does auto-tuning do?

 

[ichibaneye]

My VAS itches.

Regarding the NV enail controller...What does auto-tuning do?

"auto-tuning" what exactly are you referencing or speaking to? I'm curious and also seeing if I might be able to appease your curiosity.

"Give me ham on 5 hold the mayo!"


-Captain Clarence Oveur out!

 

[anasrzi]

I'm sending the sapphire insert back and looking into getting a actual sapphire dish (and a SiC one too) with dabber, carb cap etc @Justpassedu so I'll likely still be joining the FP club

Sometimes you need to treat yourself right .

 

[ichibaneye]

I'm sending the sapphire insert back and looking into getting a actual sapphire dish (and a SiC one too) with dabber, carb cap etc @Justpassedu so I'll likely still be joining the FP club

Sometimes you need to treat yourself right .

Way to step ya game up to the sophisticated proper level old chap! All or nothing as they say ya nutter!

What madness is this "I'll likely still be joining the FP club" That's not a solidified decision in favor of the FP.

If possible would you mind sharing with us, what it is exactly that's keeping you from going for it? I'd like to know too.

It seems like the old girl has won your heart over already being that you've already decided on some extra titanium goodies.

I cannot speak for anyone else here but yes show yourself some love. It's healthy to spoil yourself once in awhile. I say go for it. No peer pressure here.......... but I'm going for it.

I've wanted one from day one after stumbling across the thread and reading more about the FP. The machining coupled with everyone's raves about it was the game ending home run for me.

I mean it's all in the name. Maybe the FP has also been channeling it's intentions into me from afar, who knows.

I think that I may be starting to understanding what it's all about though.

Being a flower chaser and lover from day one I've always respected and loved the dynamics of the most powerful and beneficial plant on this planet. You could actually say I was enchanted from day one. It literally has compelled me to learn all I can about it and I'm still happily learning!


Keeping this in mind I've also been chasing the most complete, satisfying all encompassing experince possible with flowers. Will the FP accomplish this?

So far I'm a firm believer it'll at least be that next step if not a few more closer toward attaining the flower master level of enlightenment.

I think it will be almost 2 months of patiently waiting now and piecing together my imagined FP reality bit by bit. Next week it will finally all be in my hands.

I look forward to sharing photos and videos of the FP in action. Thank you to everyone who has helped educate me along the way with your thread contributions. The FC forum shall thrive forever!

 

[Chingas]

Auto-tuning is in the pdf of the user manual for the nv enails. It says it has 3 modes.

Note 2:
This controller has 3 types of auto-tuning control
methods already built-in:
0: Universal PID control suitable for increase/dec
rease fast speed of change of temperature
application.
1: Gradual change PID control is suitable for appl
ications that require steady change of
temperature and speed of temperature change is not
critical.
2: Fuzzy logic control suitable for system with os
cillation and sensing signal delay.


Later it says,

5. Auto-Tuning
By simply pressing a single button, the built-in ar
tificial intelligent is activated to automatically
calculate and set parameters ( P, I, d, SF, Bb, Ot
) that fit the condition to be controlled.


I don't know what all that means. I've never used an enail.