Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer
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Vaporware
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With the Herborizer and Supreme 3 I don’t know if you’ll be as impressed with the FlowerPot as people coming from a lot of other vaporizers, but you may love it so I’d at least try it out if you get a chance.
I do think that *if* you want to use high temps the FlowerPot does a lot with a little material, and if you overfill at very high temps you’ll probably overcook the top layer just because there’s so much very hot air hitting that layer and cooling down as it moves down through the load.
I don’t know how you can avoid this with any similar design if you’re using temps that put you near combustion, but if you use more moderate temps (anywhere from 550 to 650 or more on the controller) you should be able to load a good amount and evenly extract it. With a full bowl I like to stir a little, but even that’s not a requirement especially at lower temps.
If you can only microdose effectively with the Herborizer, being able to load 0.3g or more and get great results at lower temps may be another good point for you.
I do think the FlowerPot has more raw power due to its higher mass, it’s less breakable, you can use it for convection flower and dabbing at the same time, and I’m sure there are other real differences a side by side comparison would make more obvious, but if you’re looking for something dramatically different this probably isn’t it. If you’re looking for something similar to the Herborizer that might do better in areas the Herborizer doesn’t excel in, the FlowerPot may still be exactly what you’re looking for.
Also, if you want to you can put the head on the bowl and heat it up before loading flower which adds some conduction and makes it more similar to the Sublimator if that’s what you want. It wouldn’t be the same, but more similar.
If none of that interests you much, then keep going with what you’ve already got, it’s good stuff too!
ViCKi LEEKX
Fuck Vaporizer Combustion
I have both the FlowerPot and the Herborizer DigiTi. If you have any specific questions I’ll be happy to answer them.
justcametomind
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Thanks for all the replies. For the time being I prefer keeping my hands over my ears as someone commented earlier. Not doing so means letting Vas win too easily. I’d love having a one hitter for my last session before bed.
FP is not a one hitter, it’s a couple/3 hits session vape and not so different or considerably better compared to what I have. The only one hitter capable of what I’d like would be the Sub and it’s discontinued. I’m sure the FP is a bit more aggressive than the Herborizer digiTi but that’s all. And of course stirring is required with more than a thin layer if I require complete extraction.
Does this justify the cost?
I still don’t know what’s the cost of a FP minus the controller but for the time being I’ll try to resist to Vas.
FP is not a one hitter, it’s a couple/3 hits session vape and not so different or considerably better compared to what I have. The only one hitter capable of what I’d like would be the Sub and it’s discontinued. I’m sure the FP is a bit more aggressive than the Herborizer digiTi but that’s all. And of course stirring is required with more than a thin layer if I require complete extraction.
Does this justify the cost?
I still don’t know what’s the cost of a FP minus the controller but for the time being I’ll try to resist to Vas.
elmomuzz
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I’d say the weedeater is a one hit quitter. I’ve used a lot of vapes and I’ve gotta say it’s ability to produce thick vapor with zero draw resistance is unparalleled. Not thick enough for ya? Just turn the heat up and hit it even harder. It’s badass!
You can take absolute chokers with it. It does eat through weed though but that’s what we want right?
Is that what you wanted to hear?
You can take absolute chokers with it. It does eat through weed though but that’s what we want right?
Is that what you wanted to hear?
YaMon
Vaping since 2010
What gaps does the Herborizer fill for you as an FP owner?
started@52
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Sorry but I have to disagree. Any of the flowerpots can be anything you want it to be. In my opinion they are the most versatile desktop, dozens if not hundreds of ways to adjust load size, draw speed, water level, heat setting. It absolutely is a one hitter and it absolutely is a session vape. It’s the best of every world in a desktop! Now, it is definitely not for everyone and there are other vapes that can accomplish the same, I just enjoy the “experience” of the NV product line in use. I just hope I live long enough for the handle to be completely wireless!
PandaLee
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Big bowl, small bowl, in-between bowl. Long session, one hitter quitter, or about 2-3 good hits (where I'm at now)... I feel like you can do it all. Unfortunately, VAS doesn't end here, at least for me, it just switches to glass now! Cool thing is, I really like that new feeling-out process with each rig, getting super toasted dialing it in for the first few days! And with the Vrod, this process goes on for flower and concentrates!
That whole puffco thing/Newvape travel rig?, as long as it doesn't rely on the puffco power internals, I'd be very interested! Not that I have anything against puffco internals, I just want a stand-alone newvape product - not a puffco accessory.
quick edit: I can do my 2-3 super tasty smooth hits on my Mobius bubbler at 680 (where I'm at now), and if I wanted to do a huge one-hitter to end the evening, I can take out my larger Zob rig and cap it at 680 for a big lung-busting hit
That whole puffco thing/Newvape travel rig?, as long as it doesn't rely on the puffco power internals, I'd be very interested! Not that I have anything against puffco internals, I just want a stand-alone newvape product - not a puffco accessory.
quick edit: I can do my 2-3 super tasty smooth hits on my Mobius bubbler at 680 (where I'm at now), and if I wanted to do a huge one-hitter to end the evening, I can take out my larger Zob rig and cap it at 680 for a big lung-busting hit
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ViCKi LEEKX
Fuck Vaporizer Combustion
To be 100% honest, none. I was curious about it and now I don’t have to wonder, so there’s that I suppose.
Nothing tops the Glass Symphony for me, but the FlowerPot is fantastic for parties. It’s very difficult to break, it’s easy for others to use without much coaching, and even drunk people can tell which part to grab. For situations where I used to pull out the Volcano, I rely on the FlowerPot these days.
The Herborizer is more proprietary and higher-maintenance than either of the above and somewhere in the middle in terms of fragility. I’m sure this is personal preference, but I don’t find it necessary to stir my GS / FlowerPot bowls; I couldn’t get good extraction from the Herborizer DigiTi without stirring.
thevapist
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I also really like how it feels like you are just taking a bong rip. The motion of putting the head on the bowl and then removing the bowl to clear is the closest I have ever seen to the actual act of lighting a binger.
I can turn in my chair and take a rip as easy as lighting a bowl using any glass I want.
I can turn in my chair and take a rip as easy as lighting a bowl using any glass I want.
ALL OF THIS
started@52
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I get about 6 “sippers” from two rounded loading tool fills of fine grind. I call them sippers because I sip morning coffee in between hits. In my particular sidecar bong I can see through the top flat can. I pull till the glass is solid white vape and remove both the FP and bowl at the same time using one hand, (not as hard as it may sound). Then I clear the bong. On a big rip I would go about another 8-10 seconds. I get a nice flavorful smooth hit with no coughs to wake up the wife. This is with the Vrod or weedeater at 625°.
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I have on occasion mused about the idea of a connector/rod thing that might connect the FP bowl handle and the heating coil stem/handle that would allow easy one hand removal of both at once, and also keep the FP head more straight on bowls that maybe lean a little (I had 3rd party glass bowls that caused a bit of a lean). My brain throws a lot of thoughts at me
Exactly how I used to do it until my lungs would pack up
Its delightful and brain melting
YaMon
Vaping since 2010
Thanks for the reply! Now my VAS is itching just a wee bit.
thevapist
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I have on occasion mused about the idea of a connector/rod thing that might connect the FP bowl handle and the heating coil stem/handle that would allow easy one hand removal of both at once, and also keep the FP head more straight on bowls that maybe lean a little (I had 3rd party glass bowls that caused a bit of a lean). My brain throws a lot of thoughts at me
Exactly how I used to do it until my lungs would pack up
Its delightful and brain melting
If people remember the mysterious "buildup" on the inside of the head, it was concluded that it was from the vapor that rises up after letting pressure off your pull or leaving the head on the bowl for too long, right? I typically pull, and while finishing up I remove the head from the bowl.
Wouldn't this method allow vapor to condense in the head?
Vaporware
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Residue in the head may be more likely here than if you lifted the head by itself first, but as long as you’re still inhaling when you lift the head and bowl you shouldn’t get much vapor coming back up. Mostly just what might be created by the bowl heating up as you keep the head on. Depending on how much you use it though, and how long you leave the head on the bowl, it could add up.
Lifting the head by itself and then the bowl if necessary* leaves me with no residue though, so I’ll probably just stick with that.
*There can be blowback from some glass, otherwise there’s not a lot of reason to pull the bowl.
Lifting the head by itself and then the bowl if necessary* leaves me with no residue though, so I’ll probably just stick with that.
*There can be blowback from some glass, otherwise there’s not a lot of reason to pull the bowl.
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The initial riptide is not planed for battery powered portability. I'd like to offer the peak customers an upgraded desktop base with a heat shielded 30mm sapphire dish for their heady glass adapters. My thoughts are to keep the peak's battery base, and 5-10 atomizer in the case when at home. It amazes me to see customers spending 2k on a heady glass adapter for what is IMO a $50 glorified e-pen.
The initial riptide is not planed for battery powered portability. I'd like to offer the peak customers an upgraded desktop base with a heat shielded 30mm sapphire dish for their heady glass adapters. My thoughts are to keep the peak's battery base, and 5-10 atomizer in the case when at home. It amazes me to see customers spending 2k on a heady glass adapter for what is IMO a $50 glorified e-pen.
Jazz_Cabbage
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Right, I'm somewhat of a budding glass collector myself but I just don't get the point of a headie for a puffco or a carta v
PandaLee
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I'd upgrade for the function, but wouldn't get too crazy with the art. I'm getting into the glass game, and I like the art of it, but some of these pieces have to be for like millionaires only it seems! Today I saw an awesome functioning recycler on instagram, DM'd hoping it be $600, but bracing for up to $1,500 (I asked about the clear one and a worked one), and the answer was $4k for clear, $6k+ for more lavish ones! I was like OK, I'll get back to you later after I check the financing.
Peak or Carta has been on my radar...so I'll look more at the Peak if NV is developing some products for it.
Jazz_Cabbage
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Yeah it feels that way sometimes but if you can look you can find good art that isn't that outrageously expensive.
nodrog
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YES. Just don't go for the Big Names or Big Brands.
For example, John Koutsouros has *gorgeous* fumed glass creations for <$1500. instagram.com/koutsouros. Also check Blew Glass for fabulous pieces in the same price range. Instagram.com/blewglass.
OTOH, I dream of owning pieces by Eusheen or Gordman glass, but all of those are >$2k, sometimes WAY more.
Jazz_Cabbage
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Just make friends with your local glass scene, I've been to some partys where the artists' glass present would blow just about anyones mind that its all in one place.
thevapist
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Residue in the head may be more likely here than if you lifted the head by itself first, but as long as you’re still inhaling when you lift the head and bowl you shouldn’t get much vapor coming back up. Mostly just what might be created by the bowl heating up as you keep the head on. Depending on how much you use it though, and how long you leave the head on the bowl, it could add up.
Lifting the head by itself and then the bowl if necessary* leaves me with no residue though, so I’ll probably just stick with that.
*There can be blowback from some glass, otherwise there’s not a lot of reason to pull the bowl.
Good point. As long as you're clearing it should be ok.