Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

[thevapist]

I had been wondering whats optimal with the VRod/carb cab holes/amount of terp pearls when I first started using them, but I quickly gave up as everything just works fine.

For the record, I'm using three pearls (I had four but inevitably one died very quickly due to me killing it ), a two hole carb cap, and temps in the high 500/low 600 range.

I'll be getting a DCup sometime soon tho so I doubt I'll be doing much research into this with the VRod

Yea, I mean at the right temps I can get massive clouds with no pearls. I think it also matters how much concentrate you put in the dish at once based on how many pearls/surface area/temp. Yet again, variables. Very fun to experiment with though. Seems lower temp with more pearls can extract it "better" before temp drops too much, while still maintaining flavor.

I know there is someone on here who has the whole dish filled with pearls, speak up!

I also have yet to combust on the VROD, which blows my mind. Taken some pretty gnarly capped hits of broken up vape duff around 700-750. Nothing.

 

[EmDeemo]

Yea, I mean at the right temps I can get massive clouds with no pearls. I think it also matters how much concentrate you put in the dish at once based on how many pearls/surface area/temp. Yet again, variables. Very fun to experiment with though. Seems lower temp with more pearls can extract it "better" before temp drops too much, while still maintaining flavor.

I know there is someone on here who has the whole dish filled with pearls, speak up!

I also have yet to combust on the VROD, which blows my mind. Taken some pretty gnarly capped hits of broken up vape duff around 700-750. Nothing.

Whatever it is Im doing (and Im starting to think its more down to this glass than any draw speed of mine), combustion is easy here at 640 by just inhaling a bit too long.

This is making 620f double deckers to be real lung busting killer crazy vapours The dab and most of the flower goes down in one with no diminishing taste. Everything pre-heated, obviously

My lungs wont take this kind of activity for long but holy crap, this is huge clouds and a battering ram to the brain

 

[thekayo]

Slight flower combustion incident last at 620f using the carb cap.

Forgot what I was doing for a moment, lost my damn mind there for a second!

EDIT: Double deckers, VRod, 620f, three NV quartz terp pearls, two hole carb cap.

Wow that is the lowest temp I have seen for cumbustion! Recently I have been flying high at 800f on my showerhead. Very fast draws.

 

[Grifo]

do show...

i gotta charge my phone i took one but it was sloppy because i was on 5%
https://streamable.com/s/yuek2/uqtzpd

 

[Coustu]

Wow that is the lowest temp I have seen for cumbustion! Recently I have been flying high at 800f on my s

Yeah me to! I’ve settled in at 650 with a slow draw. But I should probably keep experimenting. What could have caused combustion at 620?

Battery Chassis Idea
I ordered the battery chassis and a battery for my VRod, not so much so I can use the battery but more so I can mount the post to the chassis and keep it together with the controller. Problem is that the controller won’t fit in the chassis without the battery. In retrospect, I cudda just cut a block the size of the battery but an even better idea would be some kinda storage device in place of battery. A small drawer or something, I don’t know. But I do like having the heat post on the battery chassis with the controller instead of having it on the separate tool caddy. Actually I have one on there too. Now I’d like to find a box with a top that can conceal the whole unit. Even better if it can fit my glass piece too. It would be great if they could make a tool caddy that actually mounts to the battery to keep it all together.

 

[Vaporware]

I’m not sure you could combust at 620 without the carb cap, but he also thought it had something to do with the glass he was using.

Also, the mods prefer if you edit your last post and add to it for as long as you can instead of making new posts back to back.

 

[EmDeemo]

I’m not sure you could combust at 620 without the carb cap, but he also thought it had something to do with the glass he was using.

Also, the mods prefer if you edit your last post and add to it for as long as you can instead of making new posts back to back.

Yeah, I'd say combustion is impossible without the carbcap, everything well pre heated, and a slightly over filled bowl, plus the glass im using with little water and a very long draw.

EDIT: My lungs are not happy today, as expected. Back down to 599f, back in the 500 Club

 

[nodrog]

As I excitedly await my Weedeater next week, curious about one dynamic of flower vaping I've noticed: decreased effect with more water. With both my Solo II and the Mobius Flower Pot, I noticed meaningfully decreased effects when I used more than the smallest amount of water in the pipe. I like the cooling effect, so I do run my flower vapes through water, but usually a very small amount. My theory is that a higher percentage of the THC in flower vapor is captured by the water vs dabs or smoking. I've played around with this a lot and am happiest with minimal levels of water (by contrast, I prefer vaping concentrates with as much water as I can use without splashing up).

But in the NewVape videos, glass pipes with normal amounts of water are used.

So! In your personal experience, when vaping ground flower, does it make a difference in terms of how stoned you get whether you use no water, just a little water, or normal levels such as when smoking or dabbing?

 

[EmDeemo]

As I excitedly await my Weedeater next week, curious about one dynamic of flower vaping I've noticed: decreased effect with more water. With both my Solo II and the Mobius Flower Pot, I noticed meaningfully decreased effects when I used more than the smallest amount of water in the pipe. I like the cooling effect, so I do run my flower vapes through water, but usually a very small amount. My theory is that a higher percentage of the THC in flower vapor is captured by the water vs dabs or smoking. I've played around with this a lot and am happiest with minimal levels of water (by contrast, I prefer vaping concentrates with as much water as I can use without splashing up).

But in the NewVape videos, glass pipes with normal amounts of water are used.

So! In your personal experience, when vaping ground flower, does it make a difference in terms of how stoned you get whether you use no water, just a little water, or normal levels such as when smoking or dabbing?

I seem to remember it being a bit of a known fact round this website that water steals vapour, more water equals more vapour theft.

Plus warm water is better than cold for vapour!

 

[invertedisdead]

I seem to remember it being a bit of a known fact round this website that water steals vapour, more water equals more vapour theft.

This is true - Water affects the phase change of vapor, cooling it down and causing it to condense. It's essentially distillation. It's very different from how water acts in a combustion scenario.

 

[turk]

..the flower pot is very powerful..any loss through water is negligible (IMO), this device more than makes up for it..I’m in my 5th decade using weed, and have tried/used more vapes than I care to remember..very few are able to duplicate the experience inherent in the flowerpot...I wouldn’t worry about it..

 

[PandaLee]

I've been playing around with less water, and I feel I get better taste but a bit harsher.

And boy do different glass rigs add their own variables, especially with flower.

On my Vrod, currently at 695, my old 18mm bubbler with a six-arm perc (that I was able to get squeaky clean again). Capped for most the draw, medium pull, straight flavor. Can finish off medium-loaded bowl with a couple more draws.

I ended up pressuring myself into buying this Zob piece for $200 yesterday (although mine seems to have a wider base and different sticker...and I have been feeling some buyers remorse), and at 695 I'm pulling fast with a capped draw, and getting huge hits. Maybe one additional draw, but it's pretty much done. So it's different, not as much taste coming through as my bubbler, but much smoother. And like I said, you load it and hit it hard and fast while capped.

Tried my friends Weed Eater last night, and we had it at 710. Nice, smooth, multiple hits on a medium to large loaded bowl (on his medium-sized 18mm rig). And I brought a 14mm male rig to try with it, and I preferred it this way since it has no carb cap. The 14mm and it being a tighter male opening really seemed to condense and make the pull tighter. And instead of a bunch of smooth hits off a M-L sized bowl, I was finishing it in like 2 maybe 3 hits. My friend still preferred his 18mm, so I took my 14mm back home!

Now with dabbing and these terp pearls...people using more than 2? haha, I thought I was being riskay adding a second one in there! Now I can look forward to throwing 3, maybe 4 up in there when I get home later! And it looks like I need to get me some of them SiC pearls!!

 

[nodrog]

This is true - Water affects the phase change of vapor, cooling it down and causing it to condense. It's essentially distillation. It's very different from how water acts in a combustion scenario.

And yet, I find the cooling effect of just a little water so desirable that I typically use some. My favorite glass piece for flower vaping is the Mobius Nuc with the water level just higher than the perc. A gentle flutter, not a chugga chugga like most bongs. I expect the same with the Weedeater.

 

[EmDeemo]

..the flower pot is very powerful..any loss through water is negligible (IMO), this device more than makes up for it..I’m in my 5th decade using weed, and have tried/used more vapes than I care to remember..very few are able to duplicate the experience inherent in the flowerpot...I wouldn’t worry about it..

That would depend tho, if someone likes microdosing but has large glass that needs a large amount of water, they may wonder whats up.

Extreme example I know but... y'know

 

[turk]

...this vape seems to welcome any and all challenges vis-a-vis glass, draw strength, amount of herb you throw at it, etc....what a keeper.

 

[EmDeemo]

...this vape seems to welcome any and all challenges vis-a-vis glass, draw strength, amount of herb you throw at it, etc....what a keeper.

Yup yup yup

Damn thing is a marvel. Its been a joy to watch its evolution since version 1.

 

[wildman420]

Ok so I got my weed eater and Dcup and my double controller. Setup is looking like a mad scientist lab. Love it. Airflow is wide open on the weed eater so I am working my way up on the temps. The 633 I was using in the VROD wasn’t enough unless I really slowed my draw. I dial in for a nice moderate draw rate.

If you dab then the dcup is the thing you need. Wow is all I can say. Hits like a true banger.

 

[EmDeemo]

Dcup is my next purchase!

I'm back at 590f on the VRod and doing dabs of 25u rosin with three terp pearls in the dish. Wooh! My lungs are happy, my mind is happy

 

[invertedisdead]

Dcup is my next purchase!

I'm back at 590f on the VRod and doing dabs of 25u rosin with three terp pearls in the dish. Wooh! My lungs are happy, my mind is happy

You're going to notice such smoother vapor when you switch you'll be wondering why you waited so long.
The convection air that is added to a dab when using a Flowerpot is totally fine for an occasional thing, but for full time dabbing the conduction centric Dcup is going to remove all of that extraneous hot air from your vapor, it will definitely be smoother for sensitive vaporists. Superior flavor as well.

 

[nodrog]

Weedeater arrived today. As impressed as everyone else is here. Absolutely nailed it in terms of ease of use, ability to use existing glass, powerful effect, straightforward operation. I want every stoner in the country to have one of these! Am now curious what, if any, qualitative difference people have noticed with the glass buckets vs the titanium.

 

[YaMon]

Weedeater arrived today. As impressed as everyone else is here. Absolutely nailed it in terms of ease of use, ability to use existing glass, powerful effect, straightforward operation. I want every stoner in the country to have one of these! Am now curious what, if any, qualitative difference people have noticed with the glass buckets vs the titanium.

While I do not use a GB, the FlowerPot family demands a fine grind for peak performance, so much so that it would require a double weave screen in the GB which defeats the purpose. The GB is good for those flavor chasers out there. While I like great flavor when I get it, I'm more focused on getting all the goodness out of my herbs as quickly as possible and that just cannot be done without a fine grind and high temperatures.

 

[pxl_jockey]

I don’t think there’s a huge qualitative difference personally, I expected something tbh, just based on everyone else. But I guess I don’t have good taste, lol! I have both Ti, the NV glass slide and another one from EHLE and I rotate through them in a session and try as I might, can’t find a preference. I wish I could, would love to be able to know the difference but to me they all taste really delicious. Different thermal properties of course.

 

[EmDeemo]

Yeah, Im not really finding any difference between bowls. I use the NV glass one just cos I like to see whats going on with reclaim build up etc. And I knocked the glass screen out of it as I'm usually only using dabs.

The only thing that would make me decide between bowls is whichever one makes the better seal (I have a non NV glass bowl and the seal is noticeably not as good as the NV GB, the off brand one has to be held at the correct angle to maintain a proper seal. I was using this bowl for flower).

 

[snamuh]

Can you see the weed being Vaped in the glass bowl or is it covered by the flowerpot?

I just used the flowerpot with a stock dhgate flower bowl... The round bubbly one. It worked good and was awesome to see the weed being Vaped...

Made me start thinking about getting a NV GB.

 

[thevapist]

Any Dcup early adopters want to share some videos? I have seen the NV demo, but it would be cool to see some user videos now that people have used it a tiny bit.