Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

snamuh

ghost
I just order a new setup after knocking my previous bong off the table.

I am going to use this dry.

https://m.dhgate.com/product/ccg-2017-new-arrival-glass-bongs-glass-oil/407151574.html

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And use his attachment with water.

https://m.dhgate.com/product/new-15...or-water-glass/372510597.html#mstprod-11-null

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Normally I don't use water but I think getting an ashcatcher will allow me to use water more easy.
 

invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
You can vape any type of concentrate in the Weedeater, but it's meant to be used more as a bowl topper, or for more traditional hashish.

I would definitely suggest NewVapes other product offerings if interested in vaping extracts by themselves. Or even a 20mm opaque Quartz banger, which could be used with the same Weedeater coil, but provide a total concentrate centric experience for a very small price of entry.
 

muunch

hotboxing the cockpit
So, If I already have an enail, bangers, coils, and dedicated dab rigs...then the weed-eater may be the best for me? Or, is twaxing just too awesome to not go for the full Vrod, or at least the showerhead?

"twax" at least to me, is(was?) just a novelty really. I like to keep them separate. Yeah it's nice for shock-value in people who think vapes are rinky-dink toys to let them have a twax rip then struggle to understand reality for a half an hour, but it wasn't something I found myself wanting to do often. I felt like it was hard to find a good temperature middle ground for getting good flower vaporization, while not scorching the dab. I could have just not spent enough time playing around with it, but keeping them separate is my preference. I guess it depends on whether or not you want to have 2 enail controllers, etc etc as well, but, yeah...

If you think you'll be tempted to try, I'd just go for the vrod. The jury is still out whether the weedeater will actually outperform the showerhead (since I do believe SH is the best head thus far, if considering flower-only) but I can't really see (at least on paper) how it's performance could be worse.
 

YaMon

Vaping since 2010
@NewVape710 has there ever been consideration given to metal types and how well they conduct heat to a dab versus the air bound for the flower? Given the higher temps needed for a dab typically exceeds good temps for flower, it would be great to introduce some heat impedance for the flower portion of the vape when twaxing. In other words the metal leading to the SIC dish would be more conductive of heat and the metal leading to the flower part of the vape would be less conductive. Perhaps some insulating materials would be inserted to equalize the two? If these two temps could be better aligned, I bet the twaxing process may become more popular. Just me musing about this as I am a flower only user due to current availability. Call me blue as I wait for prohibition to end, as I’ll be holding my breath.
 

Fahrenheit450

Well-Known Member
Hmm....that 100 degree difference does make the showerhead look like a worthwhile contender for the flowers-only head I choose. But they both have 19 holes and provide uncapped bowl-scorcher hits, so it's still totally up in the air.

I'm going to take my Vrod head apart tonight and try higher temps without the SiC dish attached to see if it can do high temp draws without the carb cab. I'm sure several of you did that experiment 100 pages ago, but science needs "peer reviewed" studies so that means it's time to fire up the enail :science:
 

muunch

hotboxing the cockpit
Eh, I don't find the high from twax to be that much different if I take a FP rip, then a dab 5minutes later on my enail... which is why I'd prefer to keep them separate. Less messing around, less worry about burning (either scorching the oil or overroasting the flower), and less worry about the flavors mixing well.

Cheers to the chaps to who enjoy it but it just ain't for me.
 

snamuh

ghost
Eh, I don't find the high from twax to be that much different if I take a FP rip, then a dab 5minutes later on my enail... which is why I'd prefer to keep them separate. Less messing around, less worry about burning (either scorching the oil or overroasting the flower), and less worry about the flavors mixing well.

Cheers to the chaps to who enjoy it but it just ain't for me.
I was amped about twaxing to use flower and CBD isolate. But I really don't do that and I've have my flowerpot for a year at least now. It just makes more sense to me to dose separately.
 

pxl_jockey

Just a dude
Freaking Flowerpot has given me a horrendous bout of GAS! I don’t want to blame NV but the most serious symptoms appeared only after the VRod had landed. And although correlation does not equal causation, in this particular case the evidence is overwhelming. “Honey, believe me, the VRod made me do it!”

To twax, or not to twax, that is the question. Whether ‘tis nobler to drizzle concentrates on your herb or to enjoy them separately? This is the great uncertainty of our times!
 

EmDeemo

ACCOUNT INACTIVE
I'd say the answer to the twax question is number of holes in ya carb cap. I dont do flower any more, but when I did, I had a SIX hole carb cap with my Showerhead.

Now I've got 3 terp pearls and a 2 hole carbcap, dabbing down at around 560 - 590 depending on size of dab and how quick or slow I want to consume the vapour, on the VRod. I havent bothered finding whats REALLY optimal for twaxing or for dabbing (how many terp pearls is too many? how many carbcap holes is too many? dunno, dont really care as I'm quite satisfied :) ). Those temps would be fine for flower IIRC. I dont do flower while there is rosin available, but I used to with the Showerhead, quite a lot.

I've just gone back to my v1 one hole VRod carbcap. The level of draw restriction is much greater with one hole than on my two hole cap. Thats going to make a difference to carbed temps that are suitable for flower.

Make of all this what you want, do your own experiments but there are pages and pages of me banging on about a six hole carb cap for flower way back when the SH came out :)

However, if you dont want to mix flavours or deal with abv etc etc, no amount of tips are going to turn you onto double deckers/twaxing etc.

Freaking Flowerpot has given me a horrendous bout of GAS! I don’t want to blame NV but the most serious symptoms appeared only after the VRod had landed. And although correlation does not equal causation, in this particular case the evidence is overwhelming. “Honey, believe me, the VRod made me do it!”

To twax, or not to twax, that is the question. Whether ‘tis nobler to drizzle concentrates on your herb or to enjoy them separately? This is the great uncertainty of our times!

Tried the Rattlecan yet? Its pretty damn cheap on DHGate and I havent looked back at all. I realise this is all down to personal, subjective likes and dislikes but I havent lusted after any other glass (functionally speaking, id still like something more expensive and fancy just for the hell of it but I cant justify the price :) ). Its actually a tiny amount of water the vapour passes thru and the can is tiny too so its just straight into ya lungs :) I get much less reclaim build up with the rattlecan than other glass I've had.
 

Likes2vape

Well-Known Member
I far prefer twax hits to just bud or dabs. I get a way better effect twaxing vs doing either separately. When I just dab or vape flower it doesn’t milk the bong like a twax hit. IMO twaxing is where it’s at and that is why i absolutely love the Vrod nothing else can compare if you want to twax.
 

muunch

hotboxing the cockpit
I far prefer twax hits to just bud or dabs. I get a way better effect twaxing vs doing either separately. When I just dab or vape flower it doesn’t milk the bong like a twax hit. IMO twaxing is where it’s at and that is why i absolutely love the Vrod nothing else can compare if you want to twax.

Awesome, good to hear from someone who finds it more effective than separate. We are all different in preferences/brain chemistry/etc so I figured someone would eventually chime in. Thanks dawg. Now to pick your brain. :sherlock:

What's your preferred temps/load sizes of each when doing doubledeckers?
 

Baron23

Well-Known Member
When 1 2 3 Flowerpots just ain't enough....
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Yep, and I was there.....that thing rocked!!

Always wondered who would buy one of these candelabra bubblers....and now I know, @stickstones !! :-)

@NewVape710 - Edwyn, beautiful job on the Weedeater and great info...thanks for sharing. It does seem like a very nice, beautifully aesthetic, evolution of the FP.

Just based on observation of the design and your vids, I rather agree....I use my SH for flower only so I don't see a need to upgrade to the Weedeater but I would certainly consider it for a flower only FP if I didn't already have the SH.

All - I do cap my flower loads for two reasons: 1) the basic purpose of a carb cap remains in effect IMO....that is, to lower pressure inside of the chamber and hence lower boiling points and; 2) I get a good bit of rebound in my 18mm rig and will have AVB popping out when I stop drawing unless I cap again before finishing my draw. This has to be my glass (C2, 65mm stemless can, with tire perc) as many others don't seem to have this issue and I don't see it in Edwyn's vids either.

I did get a new 14mm post for my adjustabowl and will see if I get less rebound on a smaller rig.
 
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EmDeemo

ACCOUNT INACTIVE
Awesome, good to hear from someone who finds it more effective than separate. We are all different in preferences/brain chemistry/etc so I figured someone would eventually chime in. Thanks dawg. Now to pick your brain. :sherlock:

What's your preferred temps/load sizes of each when doing doubledeckers?

Also relevant - inhale speed, amount of holes in the carbcap, terp pearls or not and how many.
 

muunch

hotboxing the cockpit
Also relevant - inhale speed, amount of holes in the carbcap, terp pearls or not and how many.

Don't want to overwhelm the lad now!

But yes, more info, the better...
Though I guess it's irrelevant... my Weedeater just arrived... :haw::haw::haw:

I will be playing some and give a report back in a few days... Also I saw @VaporWare and @YaMon talking about this in another thread... but, I just got that new, small circ stand NV sells to rest the coil/head on and will use This as my debowler.
 

Vaporware

Well-Known Member
@NewVape710 It seems like a cap you can actually attach to the WeedEater might be the next frontier for flower.

It could just be 2 plates with a hole pattern similar to the head where you could have it lined up and wide open or turn it to restrict most or all of those holes.

If possible a threaded connector on the top plate for a (small) insulated handle would make it easier to turn the plate while in use. Alternatively, a simple Ti poker in the holes should work.

If you could get one plate right on top of the existing holes, that would be even simpler, but it might not be quite the same since you wouldn’t be creating a pressure difference you get between the cap and the head.

Also, any more info on that press design you posted recently? :)
 

invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
@NewVape710 It seems like a cap you can actually attach to the WeedEater might be the next frontier for flower.

It could just be 2 plates with a hole pattern similar to the head where you could have it lined up and wide open or turn it to restrict most or all of those holes.

If possible a threaded connector on the top plate for a (small) insulated handle would make it easier to turn the plate while in use. Alternatively, a simple Ti poker in the holes should work.

If you could get one plate right on top of the existing holes, that would be even simpler, but it might not be quite the same since you wouldn’t be creating a pressure difference you get between the cap and the head.

Also, any more info on that press design you posted recently? :)

IMO it would be better to change the hole pattern and make smaller diameter holes in the heat exchanger if more draw resistance is wanted. I feel like a carb cap defeats a lot of the minimal design philosophy and affordability of the WeedEater. I can't help but feel if somebody wants a WeedEater and a carb cap they might as well go for the Showerhead or VROD :2c:
 
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