Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

[Cannabis-Hardware-Ed]

Yes, they are the supplier; it’s been talked about here a number of times. NewVape even sent people in Europe to them for coils and controllers before starting to stock the right ones for use with European power outlets themselves.

There's a couple points I'd like to make about the vape code amazon listing. The XLR coils that I received from vapecode/sweetcigs were not wired to the "dnail standard pinout". The coil in the amazon listing only has 3 wraps and although it will likely work in the vrod head it was designed for a coil with 4 wraps. The amazon coil also uses an older style sheath (not Kevlar) the only difference is the bend-ability when storing the coil cord. Just because the xlr connector is the same doesn't mean that it's wired properly for your box. I would always check the pinouts prior to powering up. Although vapecode may be the manufacturer I purchase our enails from another company called sweetcigs. I'm not aware of the details of there relationship. Some people may think I've purposely designed the vrod for a special 20mm coil. It's just not true. The vrod head was simply designed around the same 20mm coils we had been receiving from our supplier for the past 3 years. The showerhead system is much more universal in terms of coil geometry. The vrod head is more specific because of the integrated coil cover, nut, and helical ramp.

 

[tb42091]

@VaporWare - I hadnt heard that straight from NV so I didnt want to repeat it without the "supposedly" even though you all have said it. Just being careful.

@NewVape710 and anyone else interested - The picture from the amazon vapecode listing is NOT accurate, which is why this was slightly confusing for me and I reached out to them directly. I had bought the first one back in July for the showerhead and after receiving it realized it was not the same as the pic, but actually seemed to be correct for the VROD so I wanted to make sure that was a consistent thing not random considering the pic. All 4 coils I have bought from that amazon listing are ~16mm barrel height with a clockwise wrap leaving the cord with 4 wraps + a pigtail. I used the specs @newvape918 laid out a few pages back, and bought these coils expecting to be able to use them in the future when I manage to grab the VROD so I'd be slightly annoyed if they weren't compatible at this point considering my coversation with vapecode. Please double check my pictures to make sure I didnt just make a 120$ mistake, as I wont be able to truly test it until I get a VROD myself.

Edit: woo time to chop the finger nails jeeze

Edit 2: i have no doubt the coil specs arent meant to be a hassle...you've explained it well, you machined the heads to fit the coils you had on hand. You have even gone to the next level IMO by introducing a reverse VROD already to try to please customers. It may have taken some time but if we now have multiple sources for these specific coils not really a big deal to me.

 

[digitalninja]

Fortunately, @710Coils offers a special Vrod compatible coil that fits the regular VRod and has the correct Dnail pin-out for the Auber controllers. He also carries it in 110v & 220v so get the right one for the Auber you picked. Unfortunately, he’s selling them like mad so they’re out of stock atm but more are due in the next week I think. Shane, aka @710Coils will make sure that you get what you need.

So, you’ll order the Auber RDK-300, the VRod Coil from 710coils, and the regular VRod & other bits from New Vape. It’s more hassle than just ordering it all from NV but you’ll get exactly what you want!

This is exactly why this forum is so awesome, thank you! I will order the VRod coli from 710 when it's back in stock

@digitalninja I just purchased an auber pid RDK-200 and their 20mm coil so we can determine exactly what fits what and how well it works with the Flowerpot. It should arrive next week. Unfortunately I will be traveling next week and won't be able to comment until the following week.

Thanks! The customer service and interaction with your customers here (not to mention the innovations) are one of the things that drew me to the Flowerpot. Now if I can just be patient enough to wait until revision, because a carb cap that I can use terp beads in sounds fab. I like dabbing CBD or CBD/THC shatter, so looking forward to the twax hits!

 

[Cannabis-Hardware-Ed]

@VaporWare - I hadnt heard that straight from NV so I didnt want to repeat it without the "supposedly" even though you all have said it. Just being careful.

@NewVape710 and anyone else interested - The picture from the amazon vapecode listing is NOT accurate, which is why this was slightly confusing for me and I reached out to them directly. I had bought the first one back in July for the showerhead and after receiving it realized it was not the same as the pic, but actually seemed to be correct for the VROD so I wanted to make sure that was a consistent thing not random considering the pic. All 4 coils I have bought from that amazon listing are ~16mm barrel height with a clockwise wrap leaving the cord with 4 wraps + a pigtail. I used the specs @newvape918 laid out a few pages back, and bought these coils expecting to be able to use them in the future when I manage to grab the VROD so I'd be slightly annoyed if they weren't compatible at this point considering my coversation with vapecode. Please double check my pictures to make sure I didnt just make a 120$ mistake, as I wont be able to truly test it until I get a VROD myself.

Edit: woo time to chop the finger nails jeeze

Edit 2: i have no doubt the coil specs arent meant to be a hassle...you've explained it well, you machined the heads to fit the coils you had on hand. You have even gone to the next level IMO by introducing a reverse VROD already to try to please customers. It may have taken some time but if we now have multiple sources for these specific coils not really a big deal to me.

The vrod and Showerhead both require 20mm Inside dia coils not 16mm. The OD of a 20mm coil is roughly the size of a quarter. The 16mm coil is close to a nickel

 

[tb42091]

Idk if Im not explaining this right or if my pics didnt show..... They are 20mm ID coils. But @newvape918 posted pictures with the specs of your vrod coils and stated IIRC the coil barrel HEIGHT needs to be 15-17mm which is why i tried to show the pic of a height at 16mm. This height range is what 4 wraps plus a pig tail equals.

The vrod and Showerhead both require 20mm Inside dia coils not 16mm. The OD of a 20mm coil is roughly the size of a quarter. The 16mm coil is close to a nickel

 

[Blargas541]

Hi all I'm looking at investing in some stuff from newvape and was wondering if anyone has opinions on the following setups:

1) Newvape imported nail with 28mm sic dish. Has anybody used this that can compare it to the same domestically produced item with Newvape titanium? The imported setup is quite a bit cheaper and I'm curious if there's much of a difference considering the dabbing surface is the same. https://www.newvape.com/flat-coil-enail-quartz

2) Some questions about the vrod flowerpot:

- Can it be used effectively just for dabs using the sic dish with no flower loaded or will a traditional enail be much better at this?

- is there any difference in functionality in using the flowerpot coil vs a standard coil with reverse flowerpot adapter?

3) can any Canadians comment on duty charges?

Thanks in advance for any advice!

 

[Cannabis-Hardware-Ed]

Hello @Blargas541 the differences between the NV import vers Domestic is style and fit. We stooped making universal triple fitting nails several years back. Yes the triple male /female will fit a wide range of rigs. There's a reason a surgeon doesn't go into a surgery with a swiss army knife. I would personally consider what I'm paring it with. For a dab bar and cheap glass use the import. For home on your heady rig use the domestic.

I feel the flowerpot /vrod is basically equal to the standard enail. Many of our customers including myself find we dab less after getting the flower dialed in. They both use the same 28mm sic dish.

 

[abcd5432]

Hello @Blargas541 the differences between the NV import vers Domestic is style and fit. We stooped making universal triple fitting nails several years back. Yes the triple male /female will fit a wide range of rigs. There's a reason a surgeon doesn't go into a surgery with a swiss army knife. I would personally consider what I'm paring it with. For a dab bar and cheap glass use the import. For home on your heady rig use the domestic.

I feel the flowerpot /vrod is basically equal to the standard enail. Many of our customers including myself find we dab less after getting the flower dialed in. They both use the same 28mm sic dish.

Really? People don't dab as much when they buy a newvape? I have flower dialed in, but I'm stoked to dab now that I'm Cali.

I can't imagine an enail would work better. In fact, it looks like to me the newvape product is superior in every way, and a evolution upgrade to the enail.

I'm not a 100% expert on enail, but I got this product specifically because it looked like the evolution of an enail.

Unless I'm mistaken, and if you're being modest yourself (understandably) this is the product you want.

@Blargas541
I do dabs with no flower, or I do a dab middle of the flower bowl. I generally don't do a dab with a full bowl. It's just too much vapor for me. But I mean, if you wanna have fun why not?
I even just used the newvape with my 16 inch tall mobius glass piece with the stem at a 45 degree angle. Not convenient for dabbing of course, but I mean... This product pretty much is amazing.

Especially if your a Glass user, this is may favorite thing so far. I still will eventually get a whip desktop vape again for laying in bed and not needing a glass piece but if you love glass, and I freaking love using glass, just love it, I can't see a better product to have at your disposal.
I had 2 minivaps which cost a similar price to the newvape flowerpot. I've still not sent them in for repair because the flowerpot just works so freaking well its amazing.

That's my rant, but ya, you want this product in your arsenal for sure.

@Mr. Whitewall I sell a 20mm coil and also the 20mm Vrod coils. The Vrod coils are out os stock, but are due in 10 days and I will have both the regular and reverse versions.

@abcd5432 The terp pearls are to help vaporize your dabs more as they will get saturated with heat and help vaporize your dabs further. You can typically lower your temps when using the terp pearls as they can feel hot when used at your normal temps

Hope everyone has a great weekend

Shane

Jesus, this "hobby" is never ending. So many things to learn.

Do you notice a difference personally (and for anyone else) when using balls? I'm not even sure why the balls spin around the area now that I think about it.

 

[disGRUNTled]

Jolly Rancher dabs in FP. Listening to Belly

 

[Vaporware]

@abcd5432 The reason a lot of people end up using less concentrated with the FlowerPot is because it does such a great job with flower compared to what they’re used to.

There are also plenty of people who like concentrates and use them as much or more with the FP (especially with the VRod or the Wrap-Around before it), and a main point of the FP is giving you the option to do either or both, one at a time or together, so if you want to get more into concentrates you certainly won’t be alone here!

 

[invertedisdead]

Flower vapor is actually a concentrate too, partly why it's so much stronger than combustion.



If you smoke a gram versus vape a gram, the leftovers from vaporizing demonstrate that the vapor is concentrated since the entirety of plant material is not consumed.

 

[thekayo]

Hi all I'm looking at investing in some stuff from newvape and was wondering if anyone has opinions on the following setups:

adapter?

3) can any Canadians comment on duty charges?

Thanks in advance for any advice!

Around 70$ cad for duties if you get the 400usd Kit. all in all for the kit with the vapcritic discount it was 400usd with shipping. + 70 cad for duties when it arrived in BC

 

[timeisforchange]

I think it's fair to say you might dab less with the Vrod setup when you get your favorite flower temp figured out (for me it's 600f w/710life enail controller, reverse Vrod w/NV Sic), when you find how ridiculously good just flower is, you'll understand. It's like a concentrate high/effect, which is why I agree that vaping flower with the Vrod is simply producing ALL the vapor possible from the plant material.

Since mentioning it before I've been able to confirm the accuracy of my laser temp gun to be within ~2.0f, which has read the surface temp of the SiC dish anytime before I dab. I see an unevenly heated surface on the dish, but if I put the dab down on the hotspot it effectively vaporizes no problems. In fact; I much prefer dabbing off the SiC over another enail (other than a domeless quartz of some kind), but the cleanup of quartz is a pain compared to swabbing with distilled and seeing it come completely clean instantly. The other benefit I've seen is when I drop a dab onto the SiC and cap it, I can get at least 3-5 huge draws, allowing it to heat back up and making sure to even tip any residual oil to the side where the hotspot is lets it finish completely. If spinning balls were introduced, I'd be interested in two aspects: 1) how much of a mess is going to be created, i.e. how much oil is thrown onto the cap, where it won't get vaporized, it will most likely create reclaim, and 2) will the balls heat up enough and spread the oil to areas of the dish that aren't hot enough create any pooling?

Answers to these will have to be weighed if it's going to effectively work, of course. I think though the answer is in the cap. I've noticed with a standard enail concentrate setup, the more restricted the airflow the more fully vaporized oil is at lower temps. I think the purpose of the balls is to spread the oil and expose more surface area to heat, allowing for faster vaporization. However I'd be absolutely willing to bet the vortex tunnel created by the two opposing angled holes will make for an amazing improvement all on it's own as long as the holes are very small and the seal is still excellent when placed on.

For sure I'll get a new Vrod cap with twisty small air holes and the balls, but if the balls make a huge mess and make me waste too much stuff, I'll just have a vortex dab!

 

[abcd5432]

I've never had access to both to really have a choice. I spent hours looking for decent deals last night as prices can vary wildly between places. Found a decent concentrate price for dabs, just need to figure out how to store them without degradation. Haven't ever had the option to buy wax beyond a tiny amount at a time and I prefer bulk pricing to save money.

I wonder what I'll like, but I think I'll be doing both a lot personally. I like dabs because it's like a shot of vodka (from back when I used to drink, no more!). I'll be interested in really getting into dabbing more on the setup, although the little I've already done just is amazing. And I only have a shower head, I don't even know the bliss some of you guys experience with your vrod, diamond balls (jk), advanced carb caps etc.

It may just come down to prices too, some times the deals on an ounce are amazing, it's hard to buy 2-3 gs of wax for a similar price.

The normal amount I spend though in Texas goes a stupid long way in Cali. I haven't even caped much yet since I've been sick, I've only combusted last month and even that was on pat with vaping what I had in Texas. Haven't even really vaped the good Cali bud yet actually still killing off the tail end of what I got.

 

[pxl_jockey]

@abcd5432 Glad you got out of Texas, sadly I think it’s going to be a while before it’s civilised there. Hope you kick this sickness soon so that you can take advantage of the opportunities in your new reality! With the difference in price, you can grab a VRod + accessories or just fuck up your tolerance, lol!

“diamond balls” killed me! You’re going to have to post more often around here man!

 

[abcd5432]

@pxl_jockey happy to be in a legal place and thanks for the support man I'll definitely be around here a ton more now.

 

[Ramahs]

I'll definitely be around here a ton more now.

There is no escape. You're stuck now.

 

[Vapor Loop]

Thank you for pointing out the hassles of changing the temp on our current controllers. I was under the impression that you all used the controller like me. Set it and forget it. Please remember that any change in controller temp whether it's buttons or rotary dial will require some heat soak time to have any effect.

I would love to see a dial on the low power consumption controller. I had the up down keys cover break off because of finger nails within a month, Not a big deal since there low cost controllers, But would love to have one i can keep looking at %100.

Is there a particular reason why the spinning balls need to be rubies as opposed to something less expensive like quartz or ceramic?

I myself notice a big difference in dabbing off of titanium or quartz and do plan on trying rubies soon, So please do let us know what size they need to be so i can just get what will also fit my Vrod when i get that.

 

[pxl_jockey]

Hey @NewVape710 Another member posted in another thread the Swiss Jewel has changed their ordering process and you can now see the prices of spheres in the store without calling for a quote. I immediately thought of you, the 6mm ruby and sapphire spheres are only $8 each, for 1-24 spheres. Pricing gets even better with quantities that a reseller might order. Like $6.05 for 500-999 and $5.80 for 1000.

These prices are only valid for credit card purchases from their website, a proper businessman might do even better with a phone call or email since that would mean repeat purchases if you’re happy.

Thanks @VaporScript for the heads up!

 

[Cannabis-Hardware-Ed]

Hey @NewVape710 Another member posted in another thread the Swiss Jewel has changed their ordering process and you can now see the prices of spheres in the store without calling for a quote. I immediately thought of you, the 6mm ruby and sapphire spheres are only $8 each, for 1-24 spheres. Pricing gets even better with quantities that a reseller might order. Like $6.05 for 500-999 and $5.80 for 1000.

These prices are only valid for credit card purchases from their website, a proper businessman might do even better with a phone call or email since that would mean repeat purchases if you’re happy.

Thanks @VaporScript for the heads up!

Thank you for the note. I'm going to check them out.

Here are some concepts of plugs for personalizing 1-4 holes. I feel we can make the plugs look better.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BpBVnrsHfwg/?taken-by=newvape710

 

[Hogni]

4 holes? I don't believe it is necessary. One or two holes are enough. And have in mind that it isn't necessary that beards are spinning like crazy to do their work.

 

[graydeh1]

Hogni is really lifted, how do beards spin. Wiiiild

 

[Baron23]

Thank you for the note. I'm going to check them out.

Here are some concepts of plugs for personalizing 1-4 holes. I feel we can make the plugs look better.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BpBVnrsHfwg/?taken-by=newvape710

4 holes? I don't believe it is necessary. One or two holes are enough. And have in mind that it isn't necessary that beards are spinning like crazy to do their work.

I'm sort of with Hogni on this (beards aside haha). I do remember CCA710 and the variable, multi-hole carb cap and what a PIA it was. Personally, I think one good angled hole...screw the plugs...would be great. It will spin the balls, you can spin the cap if you want, it won't be too wide open (right, cap is to generate resistance in order to lower pressure, full open is not good, right?), and there is nothing to fiddle with.

Just my

 

[Roth]

Thank you for the note. I'm going to check them out.

Here are some concepts of plugs for personalizing 1-4 holes. I feel we can make the plugs look better.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BpBVnrsHfwg/?taken-by=newvape710

I'm with the others, I think 4 holes in the cap are too many. I'd personally only like to see 1, maybe 2. If there are 2, maybe make the diameter of the hole slightly smaller? Don't want too much air flow when using the cap.

In regards to your earlier question about why the pearls needed to be ruby/sapphire, it comes down to flavor and heat retention. Quartz pearls definitely work, and are better than no pearls. But I do notice a flavor improvement when using ruby/sapphire pearls.

Very excited to see work progressing so quickly with a cap with angled holes though!

 

[invertedisdead]

Plus the trough style design of the Halo is going to facilitate spinning easier than a banger design anyways as the beads are basically on a track in the halo with the double sidewalls.