Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

[EmDeemo]

What's your ground bud looking like @emmdeemo @Danksta

I find it a lot milkier at lower temps with a fine grind... with a coarse grind the flavor is much more pronounced at the expense of clouds...

Very fine from the NV fine grinder since getting that a few weeks ago.

Sometimes I forget and fill to the brim with bud for the first hit and then crumble the crispy load after, like I always did pre fine grinder (never really bothered with grinders in the last 20 years of weed obsession ).

EDIT: In fact, with this low temp, always carbed, very fast draw method, its kinda crap without a grind. I think I'm just pulling too much air AROUND the bud, not through it. Basket method resolved that, but then theres too much draw restriction for me.

 

[Baron23]

My friend,
CAUTION!!! BE CAREFUL!!! NewVape wires their controllers and coil XLR connector pins to a different pattern than industry standard. Do NOT use NV controllers with non-NV coils, or vice-versa, without first checking connector pinout diagrams and re-wiring if necessary.

You are miss understanding me.....I am not using either NV's coils nor their controller because of just this fact. Shame cause I adore NewVape and like Edwyn very much. I just won't get boxed in on a single source supplier.

I have an extra Auber coil (Chinese hot runner) with standard D-nail pin outs and use either of my controllers which also use standard D-nail pin outs.

My question is, which way do people orient the coil for best performance or doesn't it matter. With enails, I put the TC on the side closest to the dab surface as I should think this would minimize deltas between TC and dab surface temps.

On the FP, I'm currently leaning on putting the TC to the bottom as this will be closer to the load.

But I don't know if this will make a difference at all.

Anybody have any further input on this?

Thanks in advance.

 

[Justpassedu]

You are miss understanding me.....I am not using either NV's coils nor their controller because of just this fact. Shame cause I adore NewVape and like Edwyn very much. I just won't get boxed in on a single source supplier.

I have an extra Auber coil (Chinese hot runner) with standard D-nail pin outs and use either of my controllers which also use standard D-nail pin outs.

My question is, which way do people orient the coil for best performance or doesn't it matter. With enails, I put the TC on the side closest to the dab surface as I should think this would minimize deltas between TC and dab surface temps.

On the FP, I'm currently leaning on putting the TC to the bottom as this will be closer to the load.

But I don't know if this will make a difference at all.

Anybody have any further input on this?

Thanks in advance.

I never reallly experimented , always kept mine the way NV does with the handle towards the top and been getting great results. Sorry buddy

 

[EmDeemo]

You are miss understanding me.....I am not using either NV's coils nor their controller because of just this fact. Shame cause I adore NewVape and like Edwyn very much. I just won't get boxed in on a single source supplier.

I have an extra Auber coil (Chinese hot runner) with standard D-nail pin outs and use either of my controllers which also use standard D-nail pin outs.

My question is, which way do people orient the coil for best performance or doesn't it matter. With enails, I put the TC on the side closest to the dab surface as I should think this would minimize deltas between TC and dab surface temps.

On the FP, I'm currently leaning on putting the TC to the bottom as this will be closer to the load.

But I don't know if this will make a difference at all.

Anybody have any further input on this?

Thanks in advance.

Oh ok, I get it more now what you're asking.

I have the TC on the bottom.

 

[Baron23]

@emmdeemo - thanks and I should have said we are misundertanding each other....not that you misunderstood me. No finger pointing from me and I do appreciate your taking the time to reply.

By the by, I like your new avatar but liked the old one better...it was a really disturbing pic! LOL

@Justpassedu and @steama - thanks guys...I put the handle at the top and the TC at the bottom and will give it a go. I tightened up my coil pretty good and plan to start out about about 640 and see where to go from there. Thanks again.

P.S. - just got a note back from Edwyn and he doesn't feel that orientation makes any difference with the coil cover which I did get. I agree with him that the ergonomics seem better with the coil handle at the top and that's what I have done.

Cheers

 

[Alexis]

Can anyone else that has experience with the Mighty please tell me if they think the FP is a worthy upgrade/ goes well together with it.
Although I do LOVE the Mighty, I still need to vape a bowl or 2 to get where I want to get.
I'd REALLY like to get into some of these monster FP hits I keep hearing about.

I have never used the Mighty, nor the Flowerpot, but my calculated intuition can tell you 100% that the experience of vaporizing marijuana with the Flowerpot SH will be a SIGNIFICANTLY more enjoyable, satisfying and fulfilling experience!

And the amazing thing it seems, as @Justpassedu has expressed, is how the FP will give a stronger high from LESS (or the same at least) material.

Sorry I forgot you wanted input from those with Mighty and FP experience, hopefully there will be a few more people. But personally Im not VASing for the Mighty at all, whereas the FP is clearly on another level.

I can sense you are already hooked anyway. You will almost certainly receive no assurance that the Flowerpot won't be worth it in every way, so surely a question of "when"?

 

[EmDeemo]

@emmdeemo - thanks and I should have said we are misundertanding each other....not that you misunderstood me. No finger pointing from me and I do appreciate your taking the time to reply.

By the by, I like your new avatar but liked the old one better...it was a really disturbing pic! LOL

@Justpassedu and @steama - thanks guys...I put the handle at the top and the TC at the bottom and will give it a go. I tightened up my coil pretty good and plan to start out about about 640 and see where to go from there. Thanks again.

Ha! No doubt I'll change pic again at some point

Handle at the top and TC at the bottom? I thought I understood but I dont think I do now. I'm gonna forget it and move on Disregard any of my answers

 

[Cannabis-Hardware-Ed]

Here's a video to help get you started.

 

[psychonaut]

Thanks bro.
Yeah, I've been using the Mighty through water lately and it delivers HUGE hits. That's why I'm wondering how much better the FP would be. But is suspect it would still be significantly better.

I wouldn't say significantly. It all depends on your temperature on the enail. I am finishing bowls at 640F in my FP in 2-3 hits versus 7-8 at 410F in the Crafty, however this is not an equal comparison as I don't put my crafty through water.

 

[ichibaneye]

@emmdeemo I was thinking about your comments about not being able to milk out more from your ABV. I'm ALWAYS able to extract more from my ABV until it gets to the completely roasted stage.

What I do is place the FP head on the bowl and let is heat sink for about 20-30 seconds into the ABV. It then takes about 2-3 long draws to prime the ABV before you'll start extracting what's left over. I'm talking like 30 second draws at the least here. Of course the temperature has been turned up during this whole process too. Take care to make sure you adjust your draw speed from slow to fast once you start seeing/squeezing out the last little bit of love from that ABV at this point because the chance for combustion here is a very fine line.

 

[EmDeemo]

@emmdeemo I was thinking about your comments about not being able to milk out more from your ABV. I'm ALWAYS able to extract more from my ABV until it gets to the completely roasted stage.

What I do is place the FP head on the bowl and let is heat sink for about 20-30 seconds into the ABV. It then takes about 2-3 long draws to prime the ABV before you'll start extracting what's left over. I'm talking like 30 second draws at the least here. Of course the temperature has been turned up during this whole process too. Take care to make sure you adjust your draw speed from slow to fast once you start seeing/squeezing out the last little bit of love from that ABV at this point because the chance for combustion here is a very fine line.

Thanks! I think I probably meant more along the lines of it being almost fully extracted. I put yesterdays ABV in the vapcap today and went for high heat, one acceptable draw and that was it. At these 540f type temps, I do think I'm employing the heat soak aspects a little more. My lungs are feeling a bit more clear/less sensitive so I've gone up to a whopping 560f! (i was typing this out and forgot the head was still on the bowl, took a hit, spluttered vapour everywhere)

Bloody DHL didnt arrive with the Vapecode controller today so my anticipation of cross referencing temps continues to grow

 

[PoopMachine]

what's you thoughts on the combo approach?

Im all for it. Ive been waiting for a cap style like this.

What would be great is a small piece in between the dabber and the cap to dissipate some heat.

 

[Justpassedu]

Picked up one of those glycerin coooler attachments that you keep in the freezer. Super smooth hits , I barely felt the hit at 640f using the showerhead. Had to take a quick video for you guys.

 

[Baron23]

Proposed Flowerpot Combo Carb Cap for Discussion only.
This design allows the same carbcap to be used on both the showerhead & wraparound flowerpot heads.
Made from Grade 2 Titanium with certs.
I'm not crazy about the aesthetics but sometimes function needs to weigh more.
still just One Air Hole
Same 10-24 thread on top
I feel like it would be pretty light.

Would you pay $20 more for adjustable airflow?
I don't belive variable air control is necessary. I'd love to hear your opinions

Please leave your suggestions.

I like the concept but agree with others....KISS, no need for adjustable airflow IMO. It never worked that well for Liger.

Just an observation, but most folks put too big of a carb hole in their caps, including D-nail IMO. With D-nail, I often stick a q-tip over the hole to decrease airflow and drop pressure.

You just got to test it out and see if there is one size hole that will work well for concentrates and flower only loads.

As far as chamfers instead of radius...aesthetically I rather like chamfers but suggest you go with what's easiest (and hence cheapest) to make and users will live with it either way.

This is just one guy's view and no more valuable than that.

 

[paytonpenn]

@Justpassedu Can you repeat this scene with the OG 16mm Flowerpot nail with lollicap? Still 640F Coil.

 

[psychonaut]

Just an observation, but most folks put too big of a carb hole in their caps, including D-nail IMO. With D-nail, I often stick a q-tip over the hole to decrease airflow and drop pressure.

You just got to test it out and see if there is one size hole that will work well for concentrates and flower only loads.

One of your posts turned me onto trying that qtip cover method on the dnail carb cap and I enjoyed the restricted flow, it seemed to condense the hit better. Ultimately I went back to no cover, but it is a simple solution when desired.

 

[Cannabis-Hardware-Ed]

I like the concept but agree with others....KISS, no need for adjustable airflow IMO. It never worked that well for Liger.

Just an observation, but most folks put too big of a carb hole in their caps, including D-nail IMO. With D-nail, I often stick a q-tip over the hole to decrease airflow and drop pressure.

You just got to test it out and see if there is one size hole that will work well for concentrates and flower only loads.

As far as chamfers instead of radius...aesthetically I rather like chamfers but suggest you go with what's easiest (and hence cheapest) to make and users will live with it either way.

This is just one guy's view and no more valuable than that.

I'm not sure I like the looks of either one. The chinese seem to struggle a little more with reverse engineering parts with radius.

 

[Danksta]

Very fine from the NV fine grinder since getting that a few weeks ago.

Sometimes I forget and fill to the brim with bud for the first hit and then crumble the crispy load after, like I always did pre fine grinder (never really bothered with grinders in the last 20 years of weed obsession ).

EDIT: In fact, with this low temp, always carbed, very fast draw method, its kinda crap without a grind. I think I'm just pulling too much air AROUND the bud, not through it. Basket method resolved that, but then theres too much draw restriction for me.

You read correct. I had been following your travel into the really low temps and thought 550 would be a good starting point. I'm loving it right now and don't plan to adjust it. Taste is so so good and the clouds are actually decent. I'm very happy with the results so far. I can't imagine ever going higher. Maybe for effects here and there but it kinda of feels like a waste of terps to me.

EDIT: Every hit tastes delicious at these temps. Even the last hit. Using a fine or coarse grind.

 

[Cannabis-Hardware-Ed]

This looks great! I’m all for less tools and keeping the vape station to a minimum!

How about moving the air hole down to the second chamfer to get it more centered over the dish? I think with the air hole being so close to the center it may not work as intended with the showerhead. The air may just get sucked straight down and never hit the dish. I wouldn’t want adjustable airflow just another part to get gooey and try to keep clean but an angled hole would be welcomed.

I agree and have relocated the air hole.

dang I just did a back to back post

 

[Likes2vape]

Picked up one of those glycerin coooler attachments that you keep in the freezer. Super smooth hits , I barely felt the hit at 640f using the showerhead. Had to take a quick video for you guys.

Nice rip man love that bong! I didn’t know they made glycerin coolers for the bowl, that’s pretty sweet. @WAM90 you need ask yourself if the mighty can milk like this!!

Just an observation, but most folks put too big of a carb hole in their caps, including D-nail IMO. With D-nail, I often stick a q-tip over the hole to decrease airflow and drop pressure.

D-nail has fixed this, the V2 carb cap uses a smaller hole around the same size as the showercap. It doesn’t need to be plugged with a q-tip at all.

 

[ParanoidAndroid998]

Nice rip man love that bong! I didn’t know they made glycerin coolers for the bowl, that’s pretty sweet. @WAM90 you need ask yourself if the mighty can milk like this!!



D-nail has fixed this, the V2 carb cap uses a smaller hole around the same size as the showercap. It doesn’t need to be plugged with a q-tip at all.

DAMN! @Justpassedu I hope you're not lactose intolerant bro... That was straight milk.

*not

 

[Likes2vape]

DAMN! @Justpassedu I hope you're lactose intolerant bro... That was straight milk.

Edwyn from @NewVape710 nickname is “the milkman” just sayin!!!

 

[lazylathe]

@biohacker

I cannot remember the formula i came up with... Did i not text/e mail/PM it to you?
In the end it really does not matter! Find a temp you cannot leave for clouds/flavor/effects and stay there...

I find i only change temps when i notice the moisture of the bud is drier, go down 10 to 15, or moister and go up about 5 to 10, it dries out quickly.

I range from 650 to 710 but am mostly around 675/685.

@muunch
A few bucks from my FP showerhead savings just landed me some excellent new bud!
Sipping on some serious Blue Tuna milk with the OGFP tonite!
As soon as there is a SOLD sign in front of my house, i will place my order!
Scout's honor!

 

[psychonaut]

Would be VERY interested in you taking one for the team and trying flower (as a double decker). I think you might be the only person in this thread using sapphire. I'm very very curious as I'd get the wrap-around if your results were as good as I expect.

Peer pressure in the name of !!!

I did maybe 1/3 a bowl of flower and 1/2 the size dab I would do normally. 640F, unit had been running for a few hours.

Well the effects are great, the flavor was interesting. Not sure how to describe it. It was kinda overload in the beginning with the concentrate up front with the terps from the flower starting to boil off. About midway through the hit I was noticing that the vapor wasn't trailing off like a normal dab would so I stopped myself from going too far. No choking or coughing. Took 3 hits to finish it all.

Since I started this post I am exceedingly getting more medicated. Dose was about 15 mins ago.

 

[brucee10]

I think the next step is offering everything in 24k gold or platinum haha , i know i'd make a purchase.

The shower cap would weigh about 4 oz and cost around $5100 in materials. Ouch