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Cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome

limpbizkitjmf

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To be honest, me too.. I quit once in my 8 year career of smoking stopped maybe 4weeks and I too felt better, had less heartburn, ect...Since my last episode ended about 5 days ago Ive gained back around 10 of the 22 lbs of weight.. when I stopped smoking weed for the 4weeks I gained weight, seemed like quite a bit, my pudgy ass needs to go on a diet..
 
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AndNewww

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Ya Im slowly gaining mine back.. my weight changes so much up and down my mom thinks my scale is broken hahaha and it sucks because Im just a little guy.. most Ive ever weighed is 135... once on a bout I went down to 102 lbs it was disgusting
 
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limpbizkitjmf

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The big question I have is anyone getting CHS from smoking merch? Because I used to smoke tons of merch back in the day...nowadays the potency is so much higher, its actually harder to find crappy weed than it is to find Kine or dank..and it takes a lot less smoke to get high.
 
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satyrday

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The big question I have is anyone getting CHS from smoking merch? Because I used to smoke tons of merch back in the day...nowadays the potency is so much higher, its actually harder to find crappy weed than it is to find Kine or dank..and it takes a lot less smoke to get high.
Conjecture here, but I would bet a good study would show that CHS is much more prevalent amongst chronic users. Like with many substances, chronic use can lead to over-stimulation, which can lead to fatigue, which can lead to collapse. Fortunately the body is resilient enough to often rise again after collapse, but only this time it may have put in place a defense mechanism to prevent the cycle again, i.e. an allergy that short-circuits the process.

But I would also say that some people have less natural resistance to begin with and their constitution can handle much much less than chronic use. Listen to your body. And that's not a put down - I'm a relative lightweight compared to some and I'm actually thankful for it (efficiency!).

If by "merch" you are referring to the common weed of 30 years ago ... the stuff that was so weak some people could get away with practically chain smoking it, then I would say your analysis is spot on. Today's herb is too potent for that. It is not going to work well to satisfy that kind of oral fixation. At least tobacco might give you 30-40 years of chain smoking before the body fails. Of course YMMV if you choose to go there.

I feel the herb has to be treated with respect. The fear of God has to be strong enough to make you not feel invincible in its holy presence. Approach with caution and humility the temple of the Herb!
 

bweb2005

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Hello from IA. Just wanted to post my story since I have been diagnosed with CHS. I'm 27. Been a daily smoker since age 16. All Brick weed til 2 yrs ago. Now all dank. Anywhere from .5g to 2g a day. "CHS" symptoms are nausea. Cramps and vomiting ,hot n cold spells lots of sweat. Stomach dosnt seem to empty its contents. Reg bowel movements up til the pain begins. Been happeing since age 17 every 2-3months like clock work.. If I can refrain from vomiting a very hot shower will cure this in 24 hrs. If I vomit, lasts 3+ days. Every test imaginable done. Stopped smoking 6 mnths ago and no more symptoms at all. If I could afford to miss more work, I'd experiment with diff ways of using the great plant because I love it. I'm pretty sure the pain is worse than birth, that's the other reason I dont want to xperiment any further. My guess is inhaling the weed and accdentally swallowing som smoke with every hit. Sorry so short , hate typing on damn phone
 
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EsophoBurn

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This is my first go at thread posting because i just HAD to comment on this... I'm a 27 year old female who has been diagnosed with both CHS then CVS. It started as a kid... I can even remember one of my first hardcore episodes (grade 1, didn't know weed existed). We just thought I got the flu a lot. especially around times of high excitement. This continued to my early teens which is when the "flu" was replaced by migraines. Fast forward to year 2 of college and a horribly stressful relationship and I'm back to puking like a champ.
Now, I decided at a young age to wait until I was a legal adult (18) to even try weed and by no means did i smoke it on a regular basis. But there I was, early 20's, puking my face off a good once a month or more. After a number of ER visits (agreed, Ontario wait times are horrid unless you take an ambulance ;) and a couple of hospital admissions, I was diagnosed with CHS because I was very open about recreational usage. After I received this diagnosis, of course I stopped smoking! But the agony of the endless vomiting continued to take charge.
So then there's the case of my mother... worse symptoms than I and way more hospital visits. My mother does NOT use marijuana but has identical symptoms to mine. That's when my common-law husband (not my doctor) found CVS. My mother has vomited a full month straight while I can control an attack 95% of the time and be better by noon, even when it happens multiple days in a row. My mother has been prescribed cesamet (THC pill form) has has felt much better since. I still continue to smoke because they will not prescribe me the drug because of my past with weed, even though we have the same family doctor. CVS is genetic on your mother's side. I only visit the ER about 1-2 a year now and almost always because I have no green to use. Also, I don't think the impulse to take hot baths and showers is as prominant in CVS sufferers as it is in CHS sufferers. We more just want to curl up in a ball and ride it out.
So I guess the questions we should be asking to seperate the 2 would be. #1- was it brought on after cannabis use? or were you always that kid with the flu? #2- Do other members of your maternal family have a history of migraines or repeated vomiting?
It has come to my attention that they will be or have already started conducting a study to determine whether or not cannabis helps with CVS. Let's stay tuned for that one....
 
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Hello people... I need to quit this shit!!! I have had CHS for over 10 years now and in the past 5 months is when I finally heard about this disease.. Almost every morning I wake up with a gas bubble in the middle of my belly ...which usually leads to nausea and /or vomiting.. As soon as I wake up its almost a mental thing to jump in the hot shower...anyway today is the first day of the rest of my life cause I m quitting this shit !!! I'll keep you posted to see if my symptoms disappear in weeks to come!!
 
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Mayra

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Just to give an update... After numerous hospital visits for the last year. My girlfriend has now been symptom free! She stopped using marijuana 3 months ago, and she has not vomited or had any stomach pain once !! It was a long battle to get her to stop since she had been smoking so long and couldnt fathom the idea that the weed was causing this, but she decided to give it a try and it worked :)

I still love marijuana , but people should know about this JUST in case they do fall into the rare category of people who get CHS
 
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farscaper

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I notice every new poster mentions smoking it... Do any of u vape?

These symtoms remind me of my IBS (irritable bowel syndrome) I fixed mine by eliminating deef and most dairy from my diet.

How many of you are self diagnosing this because u stop use and get better... Perhaps there is more too it than just the weed. Like the lifestyle you leed when on it compared to sober...

Its an interesting thought for sure.
 
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sve

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This is very interesting for sure. I have thrown up basically every single morning for over 10 years. Not sure if it has to do with something like this or not, but I can't wake up in the morning without coughing up phlegm and throwing up. I have always had post nasal drip issues and allergies and everything so I just attributed it to that. Oh well, its been so long, its just part of my life as of now.
 
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CentiZen

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I notice every new poster mentions smoking it... Do any of u vape?

These symtoms remind me of my IBS (irritable bowel syndrome) I fixed mine by eliminating deef and most dairy from my diet.

How many of you are self diagnosing this because u stop use and get better... Perhaps there is more too it than just the weed. Like the lifestyle you leed when on it compared to sober...

Its an interesting thought for sure.

I vape exclusively. And there is defiantly more to it than what information we have now.
 
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Michelle

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I vape exclusively. And there is defiantly more to it than what information we have now.
Do you mean that you can vape now, knowing that you have CHS? I quit smoking 4 months ago "For Good". I had smoked for 40 years and been very sick off and on for the last 10. A good doctor finally diagnosed CHS. I have recently started having one or two bong hits in the evening. I'm scared that IT will come back like a bad nightmare. Just wondering if you vape and do not get sick. Also what quantity are you using daily?
Thanks and God bless.
 
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Michelle

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This is very interesting for sure. I have thrown up basically every single morning for over 10 years. Not sure if it has to do with something like this or not, but I can't wake up in the morning without coughing up phlegm and throwing up. I have always had post nasal drip issues and allergies and everything so I just attributed it to that. Oh well, its been so long, its just part of my life as of now.
sve: I woke up and puked every morning for several years before actually coming down with full blown CHS. I insisted on having my gall bladder out to stop the acid which I then thought was making me sick. It helped for awhile and my IBS did go away.
 
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CentiZen

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Do you mean that you can vape now, knowing that you have CHS? I quit smoking 4 months ago "For Good". I had smoked for 40 years and been very sick off and on for the last 10. A good doctor finally diagnosed CHS. I have recently started having one or two bong hits in the evening. I'm scared that IT will come back like a bad nightmare. Just wondering if you vape and do not get sick. Also what quantity are you using daily?
Thanks and God bless.

No my symptoms were never manifested while I was still smoking. They only came to be once I started vaping, anf a considerable amount of time after that. I still get sick, though I've gotten extremely good at aborting attacks before they start using a warm shower, tum's freshers and a walk outside. My workplace has a shower as well, so I've been able to stop it from affecting my life significantly over the last little while.

My amounts vary daily, but I try to keep below half a gram.

I can't agree with anyone (not you, the doctors) who thinks that CHS is an acceptable diagnosis though. Until my doctor (or any doctor) can explain the how and why of it, there is no causation that can be proven, leaving only correlations - and that's not the basis of good medicine.

I've come to the understanding that my cannabis use is simply a part of my life for now. I've tried quitting, and came to the decision I'd rather be sick sometimes and vape cannabis than go back to the emotionally detached and angry person I was before. It's like any addiction I guess, even if it doesn't have the hooks - you have to want to quit to be able to. I just don't want to.

You should be fine with a couple bong hits as long as you keep it moderated. I don't think it's about the cannabis itself, rather the amounts you take it in at.
 
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Adam Smith

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Wow... seeing such an active thread, I thought that I'd give my story as well.

I should begin with my stance on the herb in general: despite my experiences, I consider it to be essentially 'harmless,' and furthermore, of great benefit to those who suffer from painful illnesses.

It began about a year ago. I woke up with an excruciating pain in my abdomen on the right side. Long story short, it was diagnosed as appendicitis, and I was taken to emergency for surgery. They did not have laproscopic equipment on-site to perform the surgery, so they cut me open the old fashioned way.

Following the surgery, I was discharged the very next day with no pain medication. Needless to say, I was far from comfortable - but, having some medicine of my own [wink wink] I was able to get by without too much trouble. During the recovery period, however, my intake greatly increased - sometimes as much as an 1/8th per day.

A month later, everything should've healed, and my digestion should've return to normal. Unfortunately to my surprise, my digestion kept getting worse. I had painful cramps and bouts of diarrhea, and zero appetite. There were some weeks where I ate as little as 300 calories a day. I lost over 100 pounds, and my family and my doctor became very concerned.

Then began the tests - stool tests, urine tests, blood tests, colonoscopies, gastroscopies, testing for every little thing I could think of. Nothing came back with any meaningful information - in all areas, I was 'clean,' 'healthy,' with no abnormal growths.

At this point, my GI specialist diagnosed me with IBS as a diagnosis of exclusion; I did not have cancer, or parasites, or any noteable intestinal damage, so it was simply the only diagnosis they were left with. I should mention that I never mentioned my herb use to anyone.

My attendance at school waned, as it did at my work. Mornings were impossibly difficult. I would wake up at 4 or 5 with terrible chills and flash sweats, with an almost indescribable nausea. Hot showering, as others have mentioned, has an almost uncanny ability to dampen the discomfort. I understand the controversy surrounding hot showers as an unreliable indicator of this syndrome, but I must make this extremely clear: it brought about an almost complete level of comfort that hot showers simply do not provide for other forms of nausea. In those cases, the hot water shower is 'helpful..' but for any would-be sufferers of CHS, it brings such an intense relief that it brings goosebumps and makes one feel faint.
The effects are only temporary, however, with the nausea returning probably 20-30 minutes after the shower.

The only other thing I could do to prevent these symptoms was to smoke. It was the ONLY thing that could prevent nausea in the long term, and I had tried everything from fresh ginger and gravol to prescription anti-emetics.

I'll skip to the part where I decided to try to stop smoking. I was inspired by a number of forums, such as this one, to see if there was any credibility to this 'CHS.' I was extremely desperate: if I didn't find out what was wrong with me quickly, I was in danger of losing my job and further scarring my student record with terrible grades.

I decided I would quit cold turkey, and record how I felt in detail over the next week. The results, frankly, speak for themselves. I'll give you a condensed version. I should mention before sharing these notes that I have never had a history of stomach problems or psychological illness.

Day 1 - Unbearable nausea, fatigue, 'foggy thinking,' stopping mid-sentence, anhedonia [no pleasure in activities usually pleasurable.]

Day 2 - Nausea and cramping, 'restless legs,' irritability, aggression [I very nearly hit my dog on a number of occasions - I would NEVER do this!!]. Terrible insomnia; sleep was impossible.

Day 3 - More fatigue [paired with sleeplessness]. Anxiety/panic attacks over very small things. Nausea in the morning, but it clears in 2-3 hours rather than 7-8 like before. Worsened irritability, paranoia [especially social paranoia]. Obsession with mortality and dying; depression.

Day 4 - Minor stomach discomfort; still no appetite. Despite this, eating is now possible, but takes considerable effort and worsens discomfort for a time. Irritability and paranoia increase, depression decreases. Sleep is possible with some aid [hot bath, melatonin supplement, zopiclone prescription, anything that will help]

Day 5 - Minor stomach discomfort; appetite slowly returning. Unusual cravings for vinegar, salt, and bitter foods. Irritability decreasing, but still present. Paranoia decreasing, but still present. More energy, more motivation to 'do things,' greater pleasure in activities. At one point, I described to my friends that I felt 'high,' or at least, higher than I had been in the final weeks of my smoking.

From day 6 on, the symptoms decreased gradually. I'm currently on day 9, and symptoms are nearly completely gone.

It is very important to note that this does not imply a direct cause between herb and illness; rather, it suggests that a physical dependance CAN emerge in SOME people, based on pre-existing psychological or physiological factors. In my own case, I feel that it became a problem when I began chronically using in the morning for pain relief after surgery, when my body was likely trying to 'restart' its digestive system after the trauma of surgery. Additionally, I also smoked every night before bed to alleviate pain and have a good sleep - and because it was easy to treat myself in this way, I did not focus as much on healthy eating or exercise during that time.

It should be no surprise to people that MJ can have adverse effects if used incorrectly; the same is true of almost anything else in nature. Even water, in exaggerated amounts, can be toxic or even fatal to humans. With that said, I propose that even though MJ is less 'deadly' than even water, the rules of moderation still apply - too much of a good thing isn't always good.

It is important to recognize the users out there who have never had this experience. I must re-iterate: the herb on it's own is not enough to make someone 'ill.' The truth is that there are many variables at play in which MJ, while an important factor, is only a single factor.

I have two things left to discuss: first, how to avoid the risk of CHS, and second, how to 'get better' if you find yourself in the same position I was in.

TO AVOID CHS:

- Be aware of how much you are smoking per day, and be realistic with portions.
- NEVER smoke first thing in the morning, and NEVER smoke right before bed.
- Try to always enjoy the herb with other people and avoid smoking alone.
- If you are hungry, and after smoking you are not, you should eat anyway.
- If you are NOT hungry, and after smoking you become hungry, you should wait before eating.
- Have alternative remedies available that can 'share the medicinal load.' [e.g. Fresh ginger for nausea instead of smoking up]
- Recognize within yourself the sensation of building tolerance, and take tolerance breaks at strategic times [During time off work or on vacation]


RECOVERING FROM CHS:

- Smoking cessation doesn't have to be permanent, as MJ in itself is not powerfully addictive like nicotine.
- When you are taking a break, quit cold turkey if possible. This greatly speeds the recovery process and there is less risk of secretly indulging.
- Wait until you are out of MJ to take a break. It is much easier to resist the temptation to re-up when it is simply not an available option.
- If you experience intense anxiety, or even nausea, exert the nervous energy. Box in the mirror, go for a sprint, or lift weights - use your body to stand up and 'fight' your symptoms. This also speeds the recovery process, and also will greatly diminish your symptoms, and increase your chances of successfully sleeping.
- Speaking of sleep: if you ever feel tired enough to sleep, do NOT waste the opportunity. Avoid caffeine and other stimulants. Have sleeping aids available, of whatever kind you prefer [Melatonin, chamomile tea // prescription meds can be helpful, I had success with Elavil.]
- Give yourself at least a strict 2 weeks of complete sobriety; don't make deals with yourself.
- Find an opportunity to cry often, even if it makes you feel uncomfortable. The shower is often a good place - sometimes it is the only way to get rid of the anxiety.
- If you smoke tobacco, do NOT quit tobacco at the same time. Also, do not try to smoke more tobacco to compensate for the lack of herb.
- Find things in life to feel 'high' off of. Depression can become a real issue when taking a break from MJ; do not ignore your feelings, or they will grow larger. Make an effort to get out of your house and spend time with people doing things.
- Find activities that provide a rush, especially any experience that can give you goosebumps or feels particularly awesome. This can be anything from putting on some headphones and grooving out to some loud music, or watching a movie at the theatre.
- Do not blame the issues on MJ alone; chances are the accompanying lifestyle choices or just as much to blame. Don't condemn MJ, but respect it as a powerful and incredible substance that should be handled with maturity.
- Reward yourself for your persistence. Buy something new with the money you've saved from not buying baggies.
- Most importantly, do NOT try to make any of your smoking buddies feel guilty or uncomfortable about their own choices. It is their body, not yours. During the recovery process, your friends are some of the best support you can get - if you respect their choices, they are much more likely to take you and your condition seriously.

Thanks for listening everyone! I'm hoping that other sufferers can learn from my experience, and quickly return to enjoying MJ rather than feeling reliant on it.
 
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Adam Smith

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kind of weird that practically everyone posting on this thread claiming to suffer with this disease are brand new accounts..

How is this at all strange? Of course people will make accounts to discuss an issue that they feel is relevant!

Not only that, but it's pretty easy to imagine that most 'new accounts' are made by people who have frequently browsed forums anonymously, with no account. Is it so strange that someone might suddenly decide to share their story after being able to strongly relate to the stories of others?

If you implied anything, I would hope you wouldn't be suggesting that new accounts do not have any credibility. I would much rather decide that based on how the person presents their case, rather than judging by account age.
 
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bara

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Not sure if I have this or not, but I made this account because I feel I need to contribute.

I have been smoking on and off for nine years. In that time I never had nausea. I could drink all night and then smoke. others would get sick, but I never even had a hint of trouble. fast forward to the present. I got into vaping about 6 months ago. before that, my use was very low. I would take a hit or two out of a pipe a few times a week, or a pull out of a bong if I was with friends. I even stopped completely for a couple years. Now, vaping has increased my session use. I only vape one or two days a week, but when I do I will vape up to a bowl in one sitting and possibly more later. everything is fine until I come down.

After I go to sleep and I come down, I wake up with extreme nausea. I have never had this trouble in my life and it is somewhat frightening. I can generally go back to sleep. But, sometimes I can't and have to vape again to get back to sleep. When I wake up, I can barely eat. what I do eat, It gives me nausea or bad heartburn. I have also never really had trouble with heartburn. These symptoms last the rest of the day, but I can usually get the food going by lunch. by the the end of the day the nausea is much less noticeable but it takes a couple more days for it to leave me completely.

This is really weird stuff, glad to find a post after the most severe incident two nights ago.

Best,

Bara.
 
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Royalblunts

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This is my second time here in 6 months and I'm sure you can guess why, so here's my story. I'd like to point out Adam Smith above has some perfect advice. I have been smoking bud, oil, hash, butter (not the food, it's like a really thick oily hash), and occasionally the food butter for about 6 years constant, 5 years basically every day all day.

Maybe a couple years ago I started to feel sick in the mornings sometimes vomiting after smoking myself to sleep after late night munchies. Pretty straight forward stuff I looked it up and it was apparently undigested food left from last night just made me way to gassy. But it slowly progressed, at first the herb would cure the mornings but eventually I started getting sick frequently. (my 7 year older brother going through the exact same thing). We blamed it on our constant eating at restaurants and lack of activity. But he is a body builder type and I'm the nerd type so this illness did not suit him at all.

Then 6 month ago it got bad. I remember it like yesterday, I was at the bar with a friend ordered a beer and some wings and before I finished the beer and a wing I was in the bathroom vomiting uncontrollably, he drove me home and I was vomiting out the window the whole way. I thought it was food poisoning but 3 days passed (minor herb consumption continued) and I felt a little better, I ate and bam! right back up. Hot showers were getting me by at this point, even suppository gravol was a joke. And me being a stubborn know it all 21 year old I never went to get checked out till day 7. I went into urgent care with a deflated artery I was so dehydrated and was quickly rushed to emergency because I had blown a hole (perforated) my esophagus and was pumping anything in my throat around my heart. The vomiting was that bad. They kept my for 2 weeks with no food or water just IV fluids Probably the worst feeling I've ever felt. 3 weeks no food, I just wanted to die. Even with no food or drink or IV I was managing to vomit and crap green and black stuff, definitely hues of weed but I'm not scientifically sure they are related.

They found NOTHING. I left in such a rage I called the hospital, left bad reviews and anything I could to shit on the people that just helped me. That would be the depression and irritability of not smoking, heh sorry guys. But still they had no rhyme or reason to why I was sick, they said I came in to late to tell and I had already fought off the "virus" and they just had to get me back to normal condition. And yes I made sure every doctor and nurse knew I was a chronic toker I'm not ashamed of it.

I just got out of the hospital again but here's the difference. I went to urgent care after 3 days, they gave me zophran (better gravol) and some fluids and I went on my way with no success. So at day 5 I said fuck it and went straight to emergency... Worst experience ever but it worked. It was a different hospital and they knew immediately I had CHS and started treating me like shit. Like I deserved to be sick. Maybe I did but what assholes. Either way these assholes gave me the essential fluids and a proper anti emetic, Metoclopramide I now swear by it as every other anti-emetic has done nothing for me and it doesn't make you pass out. You might be taken as a drug seeker but it's worth the risk to ask for it if your other anti-emetics aren't working. Also the Doc told me to stop drinking water for a while and only drink Gatorade because the vomiting took so much out of me.

If you are going through this the only remedy I can see is while your sick stop the ganj cold turkey and take Metoclopramide until symptoms cease and you can handle eating again. And the best recommendation I am seeing is to wait 2 weeks before starting to enjoy (with moderation this time) the herb again. It makes me pretty happy to see that I don't have to quit forever but what is moderation?

That .3 of bud and 2 hits of oil sounds reasonable but I wish there was a more definite answer. I originally pointed at CVS but I was told that starts as a child so that's not it, is this true? So limited research on both syndromes. Does anyone have any success in moderation? How much herb? How are you ingesting the herb? What form is the herb in? Also I read CHS was cause by 3 cannibinoids, anyone know which ones? Could we vape at certain temps to avoid them?

I see the doctors defense but it is absolutely disgusting that we are denied pain medication because they think we are drug seekers. The doctor should be the exact opposite, if a med works and the person knows it works and it works the best it is clearly the right medication. I'm sick of taking 100 different drugs or none at all because the doc thinks I'm an addict because i smoke pot. It's fucked right up and if i had the money I would get a lawyer and pursue malpractice or putting me through unnecessary pain or something, anything. Drug information is available to us and just because we are as knowledgeable as a doctor in some areas regarding the body we have lived with for decades it must mean we are drug addicts in no pain at all right? Fuck I'm pissed at the doctor. My arms on fire pumping potassium through it with IV, cant breath properly due to chest pain thus my heart is failing and they wouldn't give me a god damn ibuprofen because they think that's the reason I came in. Fuckin straight up narcissistic morons.
 
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farscaper

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Have you ever looked into chronic appendicitis? I only ask cause some of the "fixes" that have been mentioned for chs like,hot showers are also signs of that. Ibs is also often misdiagnosed as chronic appendicitis isnt as volital as acute.

Just popped to mind while reading here.
No my symptoms were never manifested while I was still smoking. They only came to be once I started vaping, anf a considerable amount of time after that. I still get sick, though I've gotten extremely good at aborting attacks before they start using a warm shower, tum's freshers and a walk outside. My workplace has a shower as well, so I've been able to stop it from affecting my life significantly over the last little while.

My amounts vary daily, but I try to keep below half a gram.

I can't agree with anyone (not you, the doctors) who thinks that CHS is an acceptable diagnosis though. Until my doctor (or any doctor) can explain the how and why of it, there is no causation that can be proven, leaving only correlations - and that's not the basis of good medicine.

I've come to the understanding that my cannabis use is simply a part of my life for now. I've tried quitting, and came to the decision I'd rather be sick sometimes and vape cannabis than go back to the emotionally detached and angry person I was before. It's like any addiction I guess, even if it doesn't have the hooks - you have to want to quit to be able to. I just don't want to.

You should be fine with a couple bong hits as long as you keep it moderated. I don't think it's about the cannabis itself, rather the amounts you take it in at.
 
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AndNewww

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Well I was doing good for 2 months then I fell off the wagon again... just spent 4 of the worst days at home followed by 8 worse days stuck in a hospital bed... what the fuck is my problem??? I even had joints brought to the hospital to me.. my excuse it always "it helps me get an appetite after i haven't eaten solid foods for 2 weeks...." I call bullshit on myself! I'm now at the point of my life I'm not going to miss it... feeling like a bag of shit 150 days out of the year just won't cut it... I'll try to keep you guys posted on my progress... maybe offer some tips that I find will help me get through this.... I've quit before... if you can make it past the first 2 weeks.... you just feel so fantastic and full of life... I just have to keep reminding myself that I'm not the type of person who can smoke the "odd" joint... you will all be hearing from me soon cheers everyone DAY 1 BEGINS!
 
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AndNewww

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DAY 3.. so far so good.. haven't had too many cravings.. keeping myself busy.. going to spend alot of time getting back into bowling to help keep my mind busy... I used to be one of the best in country.. but my health put a stop to that... sitting at home is getting boring and if I can keep this up for another week will probably go out searching for a part-time job to fill more of that time... and the good thing about all this.. was I have been around people who were smoking in these days.. and I haven't been tempted... 14 years of CHS is too much... not feeling like a bag of shit at this point is a much better feeling than getting nice and baked lol... Cheers!
 
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