Can I QWISO a glycerin extract?

[Purpl3_Haz3]

If I smoke bowls I normally press that powder you've got together and form a ball. Then I pinch off it and form it into a little paddy then put that in the middle of some bud

So you put the patty between some bud? Like pack bud in the bottom, put in the hash, then bud on top? How much bud and hash do you pack? Just 1 hit worth, or more?

I've read that if you don't heat the oil/hash first to melt it, it wont burn right, or something along those lines. Which led me to the method of melting it onto the bud, then hitting it.

 

[Dberm]

Hm never heard that about having to have it burn a certain way to have it work right. Just make sure you have enough bud loaded on the bottom that the oil won't liquify and just fall through.

I load a decent amount of oil... Probably like 2-3 small dabs worth?

 

[StickyShisha2]

you can also saturate some broken up bud with your oil. i have done this for use in the volcano, and it works well for many many bags.

 

[Purpl3_Haz3]

you can also saturate some broken up bud with your oil. i have done this for use in the volcano, and it works well for many many bags.

How? Do you heat up the oil? Its solid...

When I scrape the second and third wash after work, I'll probably scrape it up into a ball as opposed to loose like the first wash...

 

[Dberm]

You can still pack that powder into a ball, just use your fingers and work it around. You'd have to have actual oil for what Shisha is talking about I think.

 

[Purpl3_Haz3]

You can still pack that powder into a ball, just use your fingers and work it around. You'd have to have actual oil for what Shisha is talking about I think.

Yeah that's what I'd figured she was talking about. As for my first wash, already started balling it up :-) Though I wish there was a way to do it without touching touching the hash, cause the oils from our skin can't be good for it...I'm sure there's a way to do it that I'm not thinking of...

 

[stroh]

You can still pack that powder into a ball, just use your fingers and work it around. You'd have to have actual oil for what Shisha is talking about I think.

Yeah that's what I'd figured she was talking about. As for my first wash, already started balling it up :-) Though I wish there was a way to do it without touching touching the hash, cause the oils from our skin can't be good for it...I'm sure there's a way to do it that I'm not thinking of...

parchment paper is your best friend for handling oils, if it starts sticking to the paper, just put it in the freezer for a bit. i believe you could mix up your qwiso with some herb in a vape, as the concistency is just about that of kief. it may clog screens a bit quicker though.

 

[Purpl3_Haz3]

You can still pack that powder into a ball, just use your fingers and work it around. You'd have to have actual oil for what Shisha is talking about I think.

Yeah that's what I'd figured she was talking about. As for my first wash, already started balling it up :-) Though I wish there was a way to do it without touching touching the hash, cause the oils from our skin can't be good for it...I'm sure there's a way to do it that I'm not thinking of...

parchment paper is your best friend for handling oils, if it starts sticking to the paper, just put it in the freezer for a bit. i believe you could mix up your qwiso with some herb in a vape, as the concistency is just about that of kief. it may clog screens a bit quicker though.

Alright, parchment paper it is! I shall pick some up at the store tomorrow.

Does anyone see an issue with me leaving the second and third wash in the evap dishes, unscraped, until I get parchment paper tomorrow?

 

[Purpl3_Haz3]

Question...I just scraped my second wash, and froze the Pyrex for 30 mins prior to scraping. It did indeed make the scraping a lot easier, but as I scraped and the dish warmed up, everything became wet. I continued to scrape, and collected all of the hash onto a small plate. It looks just like the first wah, but damp almost. Any input anyone?

 

[Dberm]

Scrape it onto parchment paper then smear it around and leave it out to evaporate? Never done it but seems like it would work.

 

[Dberm]

Let sit out for over a day @ room temp. Then it was frozen, scraped, and allowed to reach room temp again. About to freeze one last time before being put into its container.

 

[Purpl3_Haz3]

Alright. I let it sit on a small plate in a pile after I scraped it last night. I'll leave it until the 24 hour marl, then onto parchment to ball it up :-)

 

[Sour Deez]

That looks nice Dberm. What was used to make that?

 

[Purpl3_Haz3]

\/ Pics of the second wash \/

 

[Dberm]

Thanks Sour Deez! This is my 4th or 5th time making oil and only my second time trying BHO. It was made from Jacks Cleaner trim / bag shake. Turned out great, but man is this stuff difficult to handle!

That looks awesome Purple! I didnt get anywhere near these results with my QWISO so I'm thinking maybe QWISO works best for buds.

 

[Purpl3_Haz3]

Thanks Sour Deez! This is my 4th or 5th time making oil and only my second time trying BHO. It was made from Jacks Cleaner trim / bag shake. Turned out great, but man is this stuff difficult to handle!

That looks awesome Purple! I didnt get anywhere near these results with my QWISO so I'm thinking maybe QWISO works best for buds.

Yup, I would say what I have read time and time again...You get out, what you put in...better starting product, better end result. I just didn't expect this good of a result! I had got the impression over the web, here and other places, that for good herb/buds, you wanted to go the BHO route or nothing at all...I am now satisfied enough with my first attempt, to continue to use this method throughout the winter. In the spring/summer time I would like to venture into the BHO game. It will be interesting to see if I can resist the urge to become an oil-head...

Back to this QWISO I made...I vaped some of it a little while ago, a little bit of the second wash, in powder form. I loaded half of the EQ's elbow whit TrainWreck, pressing it down a bit with the glass stir tool. Then I put the hash on the bud, enough to mostly cover the herb. Then I covered the has with more herb, just enough to cover the hash completely. I pressed this down fairly good, to prevent it from falling out when it got warm. I had the vape, elbow, and screen etc, all heated up to 205 degrees C. I let the herb and hash sit in the vape for a few minutes, then I took a long slow inhale and got minimal visible vape, but amazing taste! tasted just like the TrainWreck usually does, but more potent tasting. I get it was just an over all more intense version of TrainWreck, taste-wise. The next hit, at regular pace, was a much milkier hit and very tasty! I didn't cough at all until the 4th or 5th hit. I checked the bowl between hits, seeing minimal discoloration or visible hash/oil if any.

After a dozen hits, I turned up the temp to 220c, without stirring, as I was unsure of the state of the hash, and didn't want it to stick to the stirrer. After another handful or two of hits, I emptied the bowl onto the desk. I couldn't see any hash, and I assumed it had mostly vaped off. The screen was clear and the bud was more evenly colored than usual, especially considering the amount of high temp vaping without stirring. I went to crumble the bud a little, and it was very sticky so I only crumbled it slightly, and placed it back in the elbow. I got another half dozen or more good hits, all milky, with decent flavor, and good effect. I can't say I completely killed the bowl, but I was to medicated to go any farther.

All in all, I am lovin' qwiso for now, and am very very excited to make some BHO in the spring

 

[Dberm]

Awesome man I'm glad it turned out so well for you! What was total yield if ya dont mind me asking? (Just a % would be fine)

For what I have access to (dank trim) BHO produced the best product, but if ever in the future I have the opportunity to work with high grade stuff I'll give QWISO another shot!

Honestly I would say I've been totally converted by oil. It's not about the enjoyment factor for me of oil vs herbs (I enjoy both equally and for different reasons) but cost wise for me getting trim and making my own errl is MUCH more cost effective than even paying $9 a g for top shelf. It's also nice because I find it has a much higher trade value in my area, so even if I end up wanting a little green I just trade for it and end up getting a killer deal.

 

[Purpl3_Haz3]

EDIT* I actually didn't weigh any of it :-/ it was so tough to transfer and pack in a bowl, I never bothered with it. I started with a quarter oz, and if the third wash is the same as the first and second, (I'm guessing 1-2grams per wash) then it should be about 3-5g return, I'd guess 2.5 minimum..I could be off though, just eyeballing something I haven't seen weighed in a long time lol.
After being told this was probably inaccurate, I weighed the remainder of my second wash, after smoking a few bowls topped with it. 0.3g is what is left of the second wash...I will weigh the third when I scrape it as well, and I'll grab a pic too...

What is the average return with qwiso for you? % or weight

I would still assume that BHO makes a better overall product, weather in quality (taste, looks), potency, or quantity. I am anxious to make some BHO...seems like it would be much quicker, and overall, slightly easier than qwiso, factoring in the risks (minimal if precautions are taken)

 

[stroh]

lol no offense purple, but there is no way you managed to achieve a gram per wash, you might have gotten a gram total, more than likely a little less. it is pretty difficult to get more than a gram and a half running a quarter oz with butane!

 

[Purpl3_Haz3]

lol no offense purple, but there is no way you managed to achieve a gram per wash, you might have gotten a gram total, more than likely a little less. it is pretty difficult to get more than a gram and a half running a quarter oz with butane!

None taken, as I said, I could be (and was) wrong. It's been a good while since I've seen anything aside from whole buds on a scale...

That being said, I put the remainder of the second wash on the scales. got .3 left after smoking 3-4 bowls topped with it...

 

[MarcellusWiley]

Just for reference. The run I did yesterday was 10gs of dried buds. Came out to 1.5g first wash of bho, with a .2 wash on a 2nd run of bho (finished the butane can) and then another .1 out of Qwiso. the return was really good for my 2nd try I though! Almost 18%.