Camouflet Ceramo XL

Pib

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I've had one for a few days now and it has currently replaced my TMs. I don't have the cap all the way in the wand, more like up to the spots on the cap and I'm at 13-15 blinks and get thick clouds on the first pull. I find it to be a cloud monster.
In terms of experience, it's the closest I've come to a joint, whereas the vapcaps have disappointed me.
 

coolbreeze

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I put Ceramo all the way in to the glass lip from the back of the wand, held like an electric lighter, after 6sec start to draw lightly like lighting a cigar, by 12 -14 seconds you should be chugging vapor. be sure to let go of the button so the magnetic field doesn't pull the hot cap off.
Just tried this (first time trying the Wand w/ the Ceramo/Super Cap) and it worked great. 12-14 seconds from the back of the wand and the vapor's thick and very tasty. I reheated twice at like 6 seconds each.
 

SlickHenry

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Four days in and I need to ask for help.

I cannot get this thing dialled in using a wand. Their advice is 10-13 flashes on the first heat up, then 8-10 flashes on subsequent heat ups.

So how many heat ups is it meant to be? Is this just supposed to be a really unsatisfactory and excruciating process of 5-6 heat ups for one bowl? Cos I'm up to 18 flashes on first heat up for whispy vapor, 15 flashes on the second heat up for a decent hit that still does bugger all to extract your weed. Two more subsequent heat ups of 12 flashes for what feel like whispy clean up hits, and it's still barely a light brown.

Am I just approaching it wrong thinking I can extract it in one or two heat ups? Is the lack of thermal mass just a killer for how this vape operates?

I'd ask Camouflet, but after I got a sassy reply to an email the other day I'd rather see how I go here first. (No need to throw shade at people trying to understand some really obvious and prevalent safety risks.)

You know those vapes where you have a terrible first week experience? You can't dial them in, or you can't get a good hit out of them, or they're not what you're expecting, or maybe you're early into figuring out vape signatures and you misjudged what you need.

Traditionally for me it's been exceedingly hard for those vapes to ever win their way into my rotation... I might be 2 days away from giving up on it altogether.
Really sounds like you are heating the bowl rather than the plates. You only want to insert the cap into the wand so it just detects. I insert mine from the back so the cut outs of the cap are approximately level with the red band. 14 flashes on first heat up and 8 on reheats results in huge clouds. Usually I would get 3 or 4 cycles before the bowl is done for me natively. If you have the high capacity cap you can easily half that or get a massive one and done rip if you push it.

Here they show you how

If you see in the video they only insert it fully for the last couple of seconds to boost the hit. They seem to be able to clear in one go using a bong. Also do not overfill the bowl. It works best loosely packed.
 
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AndyO

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I took some of the advice in this thread - thanks everyone - and I figured out the problem.

The problem is the bloody wand. They shouldn't be giving us advice on how to use the wand to get 6 half-ass, whispy draws - they should be telling us to shelve the Wand, it works like shit with the Ceramo, and actually hits comparatively hard with a torch. Like, will blow your mind with a torch after spending a week trying to dial it in with the wand...
 

coolbreeze

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Just tried this (first time trying the Wand w/ the Ceramo/Super Cap) and it worked great. 12-14 seconds from the back of the wand and the vapor's thick and very tasty. I reheated twice at like 6 seconds each.
I took some of the advice in this thread - thanks everyone - and I figured out the problem.

The problem is the bloody wand. They shouldn't be giving us advice on how to use the wand to get 6 half-ass, whispy draws - they should be telling us to shelve the Wand, it works like shit with the Ceramo, and actually hits comparatively hard with a torch. Like, will blow your mind with a torch after spending a week trying to dial it in with the wand...
I just tried it again with the standard cap: 15 seconds with the Ceramo inserted from the bottom, resting on the glass lip>thick, tasty clouds. I think I'd shave a second or two next time as this came out a little uneven, with no room for reheats.
 

TigoleBitties

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I just tried it again with the standard cap: 15 seconds with the Ceramo inserted from the bottom, resting on the glass lip>thick, tasty clouds. I think I'd shave a second or two next time as this came out a little uneven, with no room for reheats.
I have a similar Wand routine and it always works great. Sorry @AndyO, apparently there's a ton of variation in some Wand versions and maybe yours is an outlier?
 

Pib

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Do you have enough in the bowl, I find it only really fun with half a filling upwards.
Less and you combust faster....
 
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SlickHenry

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To echo the other sentiments I am surprised that you can't get it to work with the wand. Personally I find it so easy and repeatable.

My instructions above were for the Convector XL and work for the Ceramo XL too. My point about not fully inserting the bowl probably doesn't really matter though as the ceramic bowl won't conduct like the metal of the Convector XL. I just partially insert it out of habit and to really focus on the plates only.

As others have said I would look at the batteries of your wand. Does it work okay on other devices? Seems very strange but glad you can still enjoy it with a torch.
 

Pib

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Because of the depth in the wand, for me I recognize the best depth when it starts to "sing". Even if many people are annoyed by the shrill squeaking, it seems to be a good point of reference.
 
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