Bubble Hash Production

[Tstat]

Yea, not sure why, but the real Bubblebags so outperform the generic bags I had before. Plus the cheap bags end up ripping.

OK, I have a dumb question. I am thinking of possibly picking up and oil rig. Now, I don't make oil, so I was wondering if bubble works well as a dab with a dome and nail? The bubble we produce is very nice and pure. It can be molded, stretched, etc. just like BHO type stuff.

I am just tired of the Eclipse Vape for our concentrates- it tastes like shit. And being a glass guy, I'd love a small rig if it works with this type of product. I'll probably post this somewhere else or start a new thread...

 

[SD_haze]

Yea, not sure why, but the real Bubblebags so outperform the generic bags I had before. Plus the cheap bags end up ripping.

OK, I have a dumb question. I am thinking of possibly picking up and oil rig. Now, I don't make oil, so I was wondering if bubble works well as a dab with a dome and nail? The bubble we produce is very nice and pure. It can be molded, stretched, etc. just like BHO type stuff.

I am just tired of the Eclipse Vape for our concentrates- it tastes like shit. And being a glass guy, I'd love a small rig if it works with this type of product. I'll probably post this somewhere else or start a new thread...

What about a "concentrate slide"?
http://aqualabtechnologies.com/concentrate-utensils/concentrate-slides.html

The illadelph brand Hot Hits aren't cheap but the ALT ones are affordable.
EDIT: (although the two are actually used quite differently. ALT uses a screen and Hot Hit uses a heated up glass wand/rod)

 

[Puffers]

What about a "concentrate slide"?
http://aqualabtechnologies.com/concentrate-utensils/concentrate-slides.html

The illadelph brand Hot Hits aren't cheap but the ALT ones are affordable.

God I those HighDef full melt clear dome shots so sick..... Wait what are we talking about again lol concentrate slides ya that's how I normally see really high grade bubble consumed, with a torch like was probably used in above porn pic or with a hot wand.

 

[Bvapst]

Thought this topic could be dig out ! I would like to see results and technique used by fellow vaporist !

I've been loving the quality you can achieve from ice-water extraction with a bit of work and technique.
Here is my first run after I tried to get as must knowledge as I could.
Run from fresh frozen trim consisting of 3/4 of NorthernLighShiva and 1/4 of Jack Skellington grown indoor organic way with fluo bulb (micro grow). Have done only 2 washes (10 and 15min) so I could have get more than this. I tried to remove as much water as possible after taking it off from the bags (without pressing it too much) and I put it one day in freezer before to chop it as fine as I could. Then I dried it in a closet(partly open for airflow) for 1 week. The humidity and temperature for drying wasn't perfect at all but the result seems not that bad
Mine was also more clear when wet than dried but it didn't got blackened. The 38microns was still too wet for freezing and thus got a darker colour I suppose.

70 microns

90 microns

38 microns

 

[Gunky]

Looks good there. You can't really press the water out because it's so amazingly sticky the moment it warms up. I put absorbent cotton cloth under the 25 micron pressing cloth and a lot of the water is absorbed that way. When I'm done or have a lot of stuff on the cloth, I transfer the whole thing (pressing cloth and cotton) to the freezer. After 15 minutes or so in the freezer the resin just peels off the cloth and I break or cut that up a bit on some cardboard.

In the beginning I used to stir by hand or with a beater for maybe 15 minutes. Now I stir gently by hand with a large spoon for 6 or 7 minutes then do a run with the bags. The next run with same material I stir for maybe 2 or 3 minutes. Same on any subsequent runs. The thing is if you stir too hard or too much, the trichs break, spreading sticky oil on everything which can't really be collected. Too much or too hard also brings in a lot of non-trichome green plant material, which is undesirable.

I had a set with many bags but I only use the 220 micron working bag, a 120 micron bag to remove impurities larger than a trichome and finally either a 45 micron or 25 micron bag. I toss everything except the contents of the final bag. If you use 90, 45, 25 etc together it all becomes too laborious.

One other tip: the Solo 1 liter pump spray (model 418) is perfect for filling with ice and water when making bubble. It has a very controllable nozzle which allows you to herd the trichomes into a central area in the bottom of the bag and wash them before you spoon them out.

I have another 1 liter Solo I use for spraying a mixture of neem oil, dish soap and water on plants early in their growth to prevent molds and rot.

 

[Bvapst]

I did stir gently for 10 min and then 15 min for second wash. I still have to improve many part of the process !
Next time I'm gonna try with dry trim (here was fresh frozen) and do some gentle stirring in a shorter time.
However I'm still going to use the whole kit of bags (5) for a moment. 220 is work bag, 185 to garbage or butter then 90,70 and 38 mc. I find the result from 90 to still be really nice but I'll experiment different combo as I get your point about using less bags.
Also I suppose that thanks to this your hash don't stay too long in a water which is good for quality !

A good sprayer is also something I should buy both for hash and plants (I use neem oil as well ). Here I forgot about it and simply used a pierced bottle. Well next time must be better which is a good thing !

What average return yield do you get with your tech' ?
We all love picture as well !

 

[Gunky]

The return I get is very dependent on the materials used. Sometimes I have fed as many leaves in as I could (dry or fresh frozen) in a session running the same material three or four times through a 5 gallon system and got maybe couple grams. Top grade bud trim or small buds might yield 7 grams. I particularly love the bubble you get from males which have indicated. Of course top trim or small buds yield the best, fruitiest, meltiest stuff. I vape my bubble almost entirely (once in a while a bowl of the very best in a pipe is nice) so it actually doesn't matter very much which pore size I use; something small in the 25-45 micron range is good. It will pick up anything the bigger mesh bags like 70 or 90 would have gotten and the upper end for particle size is dictated by the previous bag.

One thing that is quite fun is to take the light/magnifier which I have to inspect for trichome ripeness on the plants at harvest time and use it to check out the freshly made bubble. A tangle of little trichome globes and stalks!

 

[Bvapst]

The return ... 7 grams. bubble you get from males which have indicated.
One thing that is quite fun is to take the light/magnifier which I have to inspect for trichome ripeness on the plants at harvest time and use it to check out the freshly made bubble. A tangle of little trichome globes and stalks!

7 grams dried from how much material ? Well I get your point so it doesn't matter much... Just to get an idea if you find the 10% return to be true for you. Of course strains and material dependent...
Personally I'm keeping big leaves for butter and take the best sugar leafs for bubble.

Males ? Mature males you mean ?

One of the first thing I did after drying was to take my microscope to investigate those trichomes. I spent a few minute there, outstanding view ! I'm considering to buy a cheap usb-microscope for easier voyeurism.

 

[Gunky]

I haven't weighed the input to the process, just the yield. I generally put as much as I can get into a 5 gallon bucket with ice and still stir. I am pretty sure the yield is less than 10%. Afterwards when all the ice melts and I squeeze as much water as I can out of the material in the working bag I get a solid lump about the size of my fist.

When you grow from seed after a while the males will often have a few male flowers which indicate their sex. If you want sinsemilla you cut those down before they mature. These make excellent bubble, for some reason.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

I haven't weighed the input to the process, just the yield. I generally put as much as I can get into a 5 gallon bucket with ice and still stir. I am pretty sure the yield is less than 10%. Afterwards when all the ice melts and I squeeze as much water as I can out of the material in the working bag I get a solid lump about the size of my fist.

When you grow from seed after a while the males will often have a few male flowers which indicate their sex. If you want sinsemilla you cut those down before they mature. These make excellent bubble, for some reason.

This is less than 10% total before you toss the lesser-quality stuff right? Or is that less than 10% total and then you only keep a bit of that?

 

[Gunky]

The 10% estimate you hear is I suppose: hash yield by weight = (gross, dry input weight)/10. My best bud is about 16.9% thc. So theoretically if I made bubble with that stuff the yield could approach 15% or something. Practically speaking you almost never use your best stuff to make hash, so you are starting out with much lower THC percentages to begin with. The process involves considerable loss: trichomes break, get stuck on the bags, stuck in the material, wash through holes in the bags, the layer of trichomes on the surface of the bag is too thin to spoon up... I haven't quantified it but I would guess yields are probably considerably less than 10% of the gross dry input weight.

 

[Gunky]

I really look forward to the day when the federal legal situation clears up and people all over like us can have their little medical grow and get into making bubble, sort of like craft beers. Medical grows and home-made bubble and edibles are legal by state and local laws where I live (and the feds don't bother with anything that small), but there is still considerable inhibition because of prohibition/drug war so this is still not something you chat about with your neighbor over the fence, which is a shame.

 

[LesPlenty]

@Gunky should be pretty good at this by now, please tell me anything I need to know to make things easier (I like your idea of cotton under the hanky to get rid of initial moisture)!
@Chicken No Name here is my machine-washed bubble from good trim and popcorn buds. 3 runs on each batch...2 minutes, 5 minutes and 9 minutes. It has all been in a sealed container with de-humidifier eggs for 9 days,

The eggs are now pink so full of water and the 25 micron stuff still feels moist so I have removed from the hankies and reactivated the eggs and placed them in with the eggs in a smaller container with the lids off and stored it in the dark and cool.

I will report again in a few days on the drying then look at pressing it for dabbing or even just vaping the 25 micron stuff

 

[Chicken No Name]

@LesPlenty
Cheers. You collect a lot in your 25 bag. In the past I rarely got anything and must admit on last few runs I haven't bothered. Just collected from 90 and 45.
Really interested in your eggs. I notice you don't grate the bubble. Just collect and dry.

Hopefully this is as effective but easier and less messy....

 

[LesPlenty]

I notice you don't grate the bubble. Just collect and dry.

I purchased a micro planer and all I did was make a mess and clog it up so am trying this instead...I will press it once it feels dry enough...unless someone can give me some other advice/instruction/suggestion on what I should do. ...a good excuse to get a MagicalButterMachine maybe?

 

[Gunky]

When I first take the pressing cloth (and washcloth it's sitting on) out of the freezer (where I put it immediately after spooning out of the bag) and turn it out from the cloth onto a piece of cardboard, I usually break each piece up a bit. It's pretty sticky so I don't go crazy. The smaller the bits, the faster it will dry. (for the next several hours I periodically move the pieces around on the cardboard off of the wet spots that develop underneath). I typically dry the same way I dry flower, fairly slowly at around 50% rh.

Lately I've been using just 3 bags: 220, 120 and 73.

 

[WelshBrok]

Someone really needs to make an affordable personal freeze drier for bubble hash. The small harvest right is for 3.75 - 5 lbs of wet hash in a single run, which is more bubble hash than I’ve ever seen

 

[btka]

The pinacle of Bubble hash For me IS the drying... But i still did Not Figure Out how. Before drying my Bubble IS blond but during drying, I think due Oxidation IT get darker and darker ..

I never was a big Fan of drying on Cardboard... Because on Cardboard are maybe glues chemicals which will Leach into the drying Bubble...

Last Time I tried to dry in fridge but IT also darkened my Bubble... I also tried microplanning but was Not huge fan because my Bubble also darkened and the process of microplanning was a pain... Last Time I Put my Bubble from bubblebag on bakingsheets and tried to thin (spread) IT Out on bakingsheets with spoon (Like Putting Butter on bread)... And do Not Press water Out of Bubble after collecting IT will burst trichome Heads you will loose terps and IT will get DARK (oxidize)

I SAW people using dry ICE For freeze drying will maybe Test next time... Yes freeze Dreyer For hobbiest Market For a affordable Price would BE nice...

As I mentioned For me the hard Part IS the drying, maybe someobe have suggestions...

@LesPlenty my Bubble after drying looked exectly Like yours...

I found on youtube a video which explains how dry freezers work and how you can diy one...

 

[Chicken No Name]

Would love a freeze dryer but no way can I justify the price. Anyway, some pics of the last run I did last week.

Bubble from my trim collection. This is 45 grade.

Trim bubble having been grated and drying on grease proof paper in cardboard. This is from the 90 bag.



Have 20 pizza boxes coming as my haphazard approach to CB boxes and bubble has to end. So nice new boxes are coming.

Same. Still light tan after 4 days drying. 90 bag.



And finally some live bubble hash. 45 and 90 with 120 and 25 lower grade combined on far left.

 

[Cheebsy]

There is a fantastic thread on bubble making here

school me on making bubble

So many of you know that I make my medicine using isopropyl and ethanol. Many also know that I have used some bubble hash I've had for quite some time to treat my insomnia and that recently, pressing rosin out of 3-4 star bubble has been giving me amazing success over vaping the same half...

fuckcombustion.com

It's recommended in that thread over and over again to not use cardboard for drying, but rather to spread it out on glass.

 

[Chicken No Name]

Thanks for the link....
Just after I've ordered my 20 CB boxes .
I will have a read thanks but tbh I can't see me safely managing several sheets of glass whilst keeping it hidden from all but the boss. Bad enough as it is. At least mine is on gpp so no direct wicking from the CB.

 

[Cheebsy]

Yeah, sorry about the timing man. Maybe keep the glass inside the pizza boxes lol.