Boundless CF / CFX / CF-Hybrid

WoodyWeedPecker

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Hey YungLeaner,
The ceramic bowl does retain heat but not enough to ruin the bowl. The herb will not be ruined after one session of sitting and does mostly get cooked when you inhale. At 380F, after one minute of sitting there does appear to be a heating of the herb and after about a full session(300 seconds) there appears to be a bit of a cook on the bottom layer. We let a packed bowl sit at 380F for one session and was still able to produce a full session of vape.
If this is true then this is a full convection vaporizer.

True test of convection.

1 - Put your herb in
2 - Start the vaporizer without drawing for many minutes (lets say 10 minutes).
3 - Observe if your herb is vaporized (usually by a change of color)

Your herb must be totally green as if it was not vaped at all (if only bottom layers it's ok, it's just a bit of air traveling to the bowl, probably not enough to reach 360F and vaporize. The bowl must not retain heat too much this is to be verified)

About the design of the vaporizer "the trench"
around the bowl seems a bit annoying when you want to fill up your vape. You herb end up stuck in the trench around the bowl. Can't they do something about it?
 

smokey_da_vape

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I have a cfx on its way. Ill do the test for convection with the lid on and off, upside down and right side up, if it is truly convection then the herb will not be spent with one session. If the herb is brown then it isn't convection. The box states that it has a full convection heating system, the same thing that the flowermate v3 air has on its box, I didn't see everyone calling for flowermates head, even though it states it's convection. I have no problem with calling a spade a spade.
If the cfx is in fact a conduction vaporizer with no convection then screw you vas for making me buy it and screw you boundless for calling it convection.
 

radiant34

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I have a cfx on its way. Ill do the test for convection with the lid on and off, upside down and right side up, if it is truly convection then the herb will not be spent with one session. If the herb is brown then it isn't convection. The box states that it has a full convection heating system, the same thing that the flowermate v3 air has on its box, I didn't see everyone calling for flowermates head, even though it states it's convection. I have no problem with calling a spade a spade.
If the cfx is in fact a conduction vaporizer with no convection then screw you vas for making me buy it and screw you boundless for calling it convection.
the words convection automatically manifest symptomps of vas. beware of words such as convection, or 5 seconds heat time if you do not want to be affected by vas
 

Tickdickler

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I have a cfx on its way. Ill do the test for convection with the lid on and off, upside down and right side up, if it is truly convection then the herb will not be spent with one session. If the herb is brown then it isn't convection. The box states that it has a full convection heating system, the same thing that the flowermate v3 air has on its box, I didn't see everyone calling for flowermates head, even though it states it's convection. I have no problem with calling a spade a spade.
If the cfx is in fact a conduction vaporizer with no convection then screw you vas for making me buy it and screw you boundless for calling it convection.

Looking forward for some other opinions but this really seems like a conduction vape. I just get really upset when companies use the word convection or in this case "full convection" as a selling point and don't live up to it. I really prefer convection vapes and I don't want to give money to entities who aren't being truthful or fully knowledgeable about the vape they are making/selling. The way they were advertising the convection aspect really makes it seem like they were well aware of what they were trying pass off as "full convection". If they read FC or vaporents they probably know about the convection craze and how just that word triggers people to buy those vapes. I'm one of those individuals which is why I jumped on this thread to see what the deal was. If they would have said "conduction" from the start it may not have gotten as much attention right away and I'm speculating they were aware of this.

I'm sorry if the things I'm saying may seem like i'm "attacking" Boundless but I'd rather not be lied to and not have anyone else fall for this possible trap.
 
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Boundless Vape Technology

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We appreciate all the feedback and would like to thank you all for the interest and discussion. As a new vape company we still have things to sort out and will use this experience to learn and adapt from any negative reviews and grow with the positive ones.
 
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rand_alpha86

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We appreciate all the feedback and would like to thank you all for the interest and discussion. As a new vape company we still have things to sort out and will use this experience to learn and adapt from any negative reviews and grow with the positive ones.

Can we get a definitive answer on whether the CFX really is a convection vaporizer, and to what degree? I just want some clarification from you guys on this issue in light of what's been said lately.
 

Vambo1980

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This promised so much, i was sold on the convection aspects!! Ive not even received mine, and i can already tell now from the users first review its not what i am looking for.
 

Boundless Vape Technology

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Manufacturer
Can we get a definitive answer on whether the CFX really is a convection vaporizer, and to what degree? I just want some clarification from you guys on this issue in light of what's been said lately.
As far as the airflow system goes we stated it is a convection based system, and when inhaling acts on convection to produce vapor, drawing air in from the bottom, up the isolated air stream to vape the weed when inhaling. I stated earlier that I thought it is about 80% Convection due to the heat up of the bottom layer of the bowl, especially the screen. The bowl holds about 1.0g at its fullest and I believe that the more herb that is used the less of a heating though conduction occurs through the bowl.
 
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radiant34

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As far as the airflow system goes we stated it is a convection based system, and when inhaling acts on convection to produce vapor, drawing air in from the bottom, up the isolated air stream to vape the weed when inhaling. I stated earlier that I thought it is about 80% Convection due to the heat up of the bottom layer of the bowl, especially the screen. The bowl holds about 1.0g at its fullest and I believe that the more herb that is used the less of a heating though conduction occurs through the bowl.
If i havent opened it up i can get a refund right?
 

Justpassedu

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According to shipping i should have mine on Saturday if FedEx doesn't mess up like they usually do. I will def post up my results and see how it compares to a few my other vapes after some testing. I now know its not 100% convection but in all honesty i do not mind to much as it looks like a solid vape from the videos that hits really nice and the company seems to be backing there product. They have been quick to answer any emails or questions i threw at them so far also. My favorite portable right now is my mighty and it is part conduction also , if this could work somewhat on par with it i will be happy as it has a few advantages over it that i like allot , 1 being the 10-15 second heat up time which i think is a huge plus for certain situations. As for the vape above on alibaba , it has the resemblance but there are so many copies out there , arizer air , pax , mighty ect.
 
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smokey_da_vape

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I received my cfx today, and too bad so sad. There was visible off gassing during my burn in and I did a couple convection tests which the cfx failed. Sorry boundless but what convection properties there was supposed to be is only a byproduct of hot air being generated by conduction and flowing through the herb on inhale. I can't and won't be using this vaporizer.
 

YungLeaner

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I held off from this one because it looked far too much like the Chinese Crafty clones. I think the guy on Reddit has every right to be as angry as he is. Even the summit, a similar unit, has done OK business-wise with good marketing despite pretty shitty design and conduction heating. They're honest about what their product is (a pax competitor) and it makes a huge difference.

This is a clear example of a fly-by-night company taking advantage of a niche markets that operates on the basis of buzzwords like convection. Say it and people will buy it. But don't shit on someone who's mad after "taking a risk." They spent money on a product with x description, and received product y. I would be furious as well, and I hope that Boundless is out of the industry as quickly as they entered it, but perhaps with less fanfare this time around.
 
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