Boundless CF / CFX / CF-Hybrid
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stickstones
Vapor concierge
I was hungering for a loading tool as well, then I saw their video and just went with the old school folded piece of paper...perfect!
I think a battery indicator on the CF is a must. Just last night I was trying to figure out how full the charge was and really wanted it to be able to tell me. All it needs to do is flash the level when I turn it on.
@Boundless Vape Technology - I want to reconfirm to make sure I understand correctly. You guys are saying the only piece of the air path that gets directly heated is the ss tube that is the heat exchanger and no electricity is being used to heat up the loading chamber, right?
I think a battery indicator on the CF is a must. Just last night I was trying to figure out how full the charge was and really wanted it to be able to tell me. All it needs to do is flash the level when I turn it on.
@Boundless Vape Technology - I want to reconfirm to make sure I understand correctly. You guys are saying the only piece of the air path that gets directly heated is the ss tube that is the heat exchanger and no electricity is being used to heat up the loading chamber, right?
Fat Freddy
FUCK CANCER TOO !
@Boundless Vape Technology,given the "High Wattage heating source" (HWHS) that you mention, how does that effect the batteries in terms of 'sessions per charge', if you will, compared to the same battery with a lower heating source output?
As well, how does the HWHS effect the performance of the battery(s) over their lifetimes? Does it tend to shorten the lifespan of the batteries?
Finally, given the HWHS, how have these units, CF & CFX, been safety tested, if at all?
Thanks again for your response!
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Likes2vape
Well-Known Member
The customer service @Boundless Vape Technology is great! It's refreshing to see a new company that manufactures a vape actually have product to sell, did not rely on Kickstarter or similar, and actually seem to care if we buy their vape or not. Big Big props on that!!!
I think this will be the vape of the year and it is going to be very hard to dethrone it!
The Firmware update style is what we are hoping to do. But worst case scenario we will figure out some type of upgrade plan for everyone to be able to have the latest features.
Sorry for the confusion. The outer-shelled ceramic core that is surrounding the Heat Ex-changer is what is heated. The ceramic piece that is in the middle of the heater & Chamber is a 2inch tube that his being heated from the bottom of the tube that encloses the heat ex-changer.
Essentially this comes back to our reasoning to use internal batteries. Paired with the high wattage loading chamber are two high drain LG batteries, selected to ensure quality. With that in mind we haven't experienced any lack in performance as far as vapor production or session span even with the 80w oven. Again this would all depend on what level you tend to vape at as well.
From our stress tests and our aging tests we have seen pretty solid results as far as the life span of the unit and the batteries. Mind you, that also comes down to how you treat your unit charging wise. Keeping a good charge on it (above 20%) is generally better for the life span of your batteries. Also a key note is that when your session time is done the unit just goes into standby mode. If you are fully done with your sesh i recommend clicking it 5 times to fully shut down the unit.
The short answer is they are stress tested and tested for any defects. (that sounds like less then what it is haha)
We are actually thinking of making a nice video on the full production process.
Overall glad everyone seems to be enjoying their units. If you guys have any questions please fill free to email me directly as well. eric@bndlsvapes.com. Also make sure to check out the new site and if you guys have any feedback on it let me know! thanks!!
b0
Cloudy...
This vape looks really interesting, can't wait to see if @VapeFiend.com sells it so I can avoid customs.
Looks like a faster/cheaper Mighty/Crafty, really good. To the people that is already enjoying it, how hot/harsh is the vapor? A comparison with any of the vapes in my signature would help
Looks like a faster/cheaper Mighty/Crafty, really good. To the people that is already enjoying it, how hot/harsh is the vapor? A comparison with any of the vapes in my signature would help
stickstones
Vapor concierge
I went right for the top temp when I got mine and have had no problems. I was surprised, because the mouthpiece doesn't use all the interior space to cool the vapor. It looks like more of an attempt to look like a cooling unit rather than actually being one, but the bottom line is it works and cools the vapor enough for me at all temps. For reference, I couldn't take the Solo any higher than 4 without feeling irritation.
b0
Cloudy...
Likes2vape
Well-Known Member
I did 1 5 min cycle on 430 (CFX) and didn't smell a thing or see any strange vapor but I would still do at least 1 cycle just because!
Just skimmed through a live stream video, full convection came up. Glad they took the whole fiasco on the chin, and seem a lot more knowledgeable moving forward with an FC shout out too. Kudos. Could certainly see myself with a CFX in the future, sounds like my perfect conduction session portable. ELB type screen, or some way to adjust the load size for efficiency sounds nice, although I personally don't believe you get a session vape for efficiency. I want it so I can load up as much as I'd put in a joint, and pass a bong back and forth like in the videos.
VaporSipper
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I kinda wish I would have tried this instead of my Mighty? I LOVE my new Mighty, don't get me wrong but this is literally 1/3 of the cost and looks like performance is the same? @stickstones how do you compare the vapor quality and battery life between the Mighty and the CFX? I know CFX wins on heat up time.
little maggie
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Nice. I might have ordered from there if I'd found it before going through Boundless. The price is a bit higher but not so much that it's worth waiting for ones from Boundless. Hope they get some new ones in at the company.
VaporSipper
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The ones at tVI right now are the current model CFX, but Boundless has said several times that the new CFX firmware will either be user updatable or that they will take care of updating anyone who has a current release CFX.
b0
Cloudy...
i would be amazing if you can download the updates and do it yourself, like the ESV
xer0
Well-Known Member
Thank you!!!
Order is in...I look forward to playing with my new toy next week.
One left in stock at tvi for anyone on the fence.
Taz
Tester
I am going with PuffItUp due to the raise of the manufacture. They offered 20 but raised 10.
WTF?
I am hestitent cause they did not know conduction versus convection as a manufature? No excuse there but lazy or duh.. worried and they never replied to 4 inquiries
Direct.
Impressed but not because not 1 reply after 4 inquiries.
Seems sketch in vape forum. Also raised price in last week on forum.
Thanks but trust takes honesty.
WTF?
I am hestitent cause they did not know conduction versus convection as a manufature? No excuse there but lazy or duh.. worried and they never replied to 4 inquiries
Direct.
Impressed but not because not 1 reply after 4 inquiries.
Seems sketch in vape forum. Also raised price in last week on forum.
Thanks but trust takes honesty.
YungLeaner
Well-Known Member
Prices are up to the manufacturer to set and communicate and the buyer to make a choice. Boundless' pricing is not set in stone because they are a new company trying out new forms of promotion all the time. A lot less unsettling than some VapeXhale pricing shenanigans that some of us have dealt with, and from all accounts Boundless is one of the best vape companies to deal with.
As for the communication I hope they get back to you soon.
In regards to convection/conduction, it's a conduction vape but if you want to feel continuously sketched out by that go ahead by all means even though they have admitted an honest mistake, and honestly bent over backwards to accommodate FC when many companies would just stick with local head shops and ignore the nerds online like me and any others.
End of story is that it's a badass vaporizer. I'll tell that to anyone who asks and I'm clearly not alone on this thread. Good luck, if you end up picking it up I know you'll love it. Puts devices like Pax 2, Arizers to shame for what I'm looking for (That is to get really fucking high)
Taz
Tester
Just did not care to see the retail 179 after it is 169 many places is all. I mean I was offered much less from a dealer and not them? The conduction versus convection thing makes me even more reluctant. Nice research.. for a manufacture!
I will be testing one but I am not one to BS either. I will compare it to the Mighty.
Seems to be what most want to compare it too. No?
Lets see.
I will be testing one but I am not one to BS either. I will compare it to the Mighty.
Seems to be what most want to compare it too. No?
Lets see.
YungLeaner
Well-Known Member
Arizer sells the Solo for like 230 on their website...Same disparity with the Volcano and many others.
As for the conduction/convection thing, I think we're severely overestimating the extent to which people who don't spend time on FuckCombustion or Reddit even fully grasp the conduction/convection distinction. I of course agree that it's not a great look for a vape company, but 90% of vape users wouldn't really be able to explain the difference and I think the company assumed convection = good airflow, good flavor and instant heat up, which while inaccurate is understandable. And I think it's notable that after being viciously attacked on here by myself and others Boundless has continued to come back, appreciated the feedback and offered a discount code. If more small businesses operated like that then I believe we'd be in a better place in the world
I like the Boundless just about as much as the Mighty I tried. The Mighty's flavor is a little bit better, which makes sense because it has more convection going on. On the other hand, I cannot stand the Cooling Unit in concept or execution for personal use because I use all my vapes through water. The CU, while nifty, is gunked up with so much reclaim so quickly. And the difference in heat up time is substantial as well. Not to mention reliability, although the Boundless is a new unit....
To me, it's not an issue of Boundless vs. Mighty. The CFX is a cheaper unit that's just as good or better IMO, but it's more about something being the right vape for you. I love my CFX but probably won't use it much going forward as I'm addicted to pure convection, and only need a portable when going out with friends. But I'll quit talking because you ordered one and the CFX speaks for itself
