Best portable vape for microdosing: TinyMight or HR Rogue?

[vape_confusion]

I want to buy my first vape which I will use for microdosing.

Things I am looking for:
- must be portable and on demand
- able to load the bowl once and take a puff or two daily for a week or so or when I feel the need for a small bump... without having to reload each day/session
- be able to control the dosage to get the same effect each time
- conserve flower
- high quality and good battery
- would be great if I don't have to stir but it's not a huge deal breaker for me

After looking at so many vapes I have narrowed it down to TinyMight and HR Rogue (I know the Rogue is not on demand).

I really like the look of HR Rogue, digital display and big battery even though it is a session vape.

1. Would I be able to use the Rogue as an on demand vape without having to reload dosing capsules each day or each time I want to take a couple of puffs?

2. With the Rogue, will filling the bowl normally, taking a puff or two and then turning it off immediately to resume another day degrade the quality of the flower since it is always heating?

3. From what I have read, TM may need stirring while Rogue does not (but... some say that the Rogue cooks evently because the heat is always on).

As for the TinyMight I am worried that if something breaks, customer support will not be able to replace it or it might come defective. Even though form is more important to me, I am not a fan of the wood design of the TM.

Sorry for the huge wall of text but I am so confused between the two. Would love some help! Thank you!

 

[Vaporware]

I’m usually okay reusing flower in a conduction/session vaporizer once or maybe twice at most. Reheating over and over will really degrade your flower.

You can use it up fast with a TimyMight too, but if you take low temp sips and slowly turn it up each time you use it you should get better results over a bunch of hits.

You should also know the TM’s stem is not the smallest, so consider what a micro-dose is to you. I think it should work, but if your access to flower is extremely limited I’m not sure whether or not this is the ideal setup for you.

If you have good access to material though, while I like flower best there are options like the Pax Era Pro that can attempt to deliver consistent concentrate doses.

There are too many variables with flower to guarantee consistent individual hits every time, but with a little practice I think you could be happy with it too, and I think on-demand convection like the TinyMight is the way to go.

Another important thing to remember when using the same flower over a long period is that you will probably cook off most of specific terpenes and cannabinoids early and you might miss them in later hits.

Ideally I like using small amounts of flower all at once. I still often use larger amounts over 2 or more sessions and I’m not knocking it, but I can’t say that the 5th hit is the same as the first or second to me.

Edit: To be clear I’m not trying to scare you away or make you think the TM or flower in general can’t work for you, just trying to give you some of the nuance so you’re not surprised when your flower starts to taste less good after a few draws, etc.

I still use small doses of flower at least 90% of the time.

 

[Grass Yes]

I think the Tinymight is a fantastic microdoser, but it doesn't exactly work for your describe case. It is _very_ efficient. For me, I can get a lot out of a tiny amount of flower using the step-up each hit method. Although it still loses most of the good flavor after 2-3 hits. I can load a very small amount and the TM still performs well. That's one of its killer features, the chamber can adjust down to almost nothing. Also I never need to stir using this method.

It's pretty amazing actually. But it is not well suited, in my opinion, to loading up like 1/2 a gram and hitting it over a few days. It will extract a lot on that first hit if you load it up. Don't have a Rouge, so I can't say how it compares.

 

[Shit Snacks]

TM is fantastic agreed, if you want something more like the Rogue that is on demand, check out the new xmax v3pro too

 

[Bad Dog]

as a avid micro doser your usage case does not sound appealing to me. in fact if this is important to you .........

- be able to control the dosage to get the same effect each time

effects can vary a great deal depending on temperature and having a large load in the tinymight that you temp step your way through will change slightly each time you step up, not consistent imo. taste falls off overtime, your first session will be very tasty, the rest bland. hit will also vary at different temps with more extraction at higher temps then lower, you could try taking shorter hits as you step up but how much shorter??? each time and tracking how long your hits are sounds like work and tedious and not consistent imo.

- able to load the bowl once and take a puff or two daily for a week or so or when I feel the need for a small bump... without having to reload each day/session

this is just not feasible without a desktop like the ditanium or something else with a large bowl, portable wise you would be looking at a Minivap, and again not my preferred method.

my advise is forget about not loading each time. you will have a more enjoyable and consistent experience dialling in temperate and load size you want.

- must be portable

how portable??? do you want to be able to take it room to room in your house or do you want to use it walking down the street??? if you want the best micro dosing set up for the tinymight you want the wpa (water pipe adapter) because frankly it is better for micro dosing than the stock stem ime this does mean you would have to pair it with a bong for a water filtration option or my favourite would be a glass j hook which is a dry stem. a wpa paired with the tinymight basket screens is micro dosing perfection! with the wpa you can pack the smallest possible load, unlike the stock stem which need a certain amount for the load to keep integrity and not fall out of the stem, the wpa does not have the same limitation the load can be just a dusting to cover the bottom of the screen, with the wpa you use the tinymight upside down so there is no concern of the load falling out of the stem onto the heater screen.


another option that would give you all of the options you asked for would be a 510 cartridge vape

 

[Dreuft]

Sticky brick OG is the perfect answer if you ask me! I don't know if a bowl can last a week but but it's feasible I guess.

 

[bossman]

I agree with @Shit Snacks and @Bad Dog: Tinymight and Xmax V3 Pro. Fuck the Rogue: it can't compete for speed or flavor and you need to buy vapes for how they work more than how they look. The V3 Pro is on sale now for under a hundred bucks so it's the perfect first portable. You can always spend $259 on the TM later since the price doesn't change.

The og Sticky Brick is a beast but isn't portable by most measures and nothing in the SBL lineup approaches the pocket carry of the top recommendations above.

 

[invertedisdead]

Totally agree with Bad Dog

You can’t come back to the same bowl and get the same effects each time at all. Once the flavors sucked out the effects are never the same for successive inhalations IMHE.

Perhaps you might clue us in on which vaporizers you currently own or have previously enjoyed using in the past to better give you suggestions?

IMO you should want to be loading a fresh hit every time.

Without knowing too much about your history, Tafee Bowle might be up your alley. The pot system would make it easy to have fresh doses without feeling compelled to rip the same bowl for a week. To each their own but I barely like hitting a bowl more than once or twice.

 

[Robert-in-YEG]

I want to buy my first vape which I will use for microdosing.

Things I am looking for:
- must be portable and on demand
- able to load the bowl once and take a puff or two daily for a week or so or when I feel the need for a small bump... without having to reload each day/session
- be able to control the dosage to get the same effect each time
- conserve flower
- high quality and good battery
- would be great if I don't have to stir but it's not a huge deal breaker for me

After looking at so many vapes I have narrowed it down to TinyMight and HR Rogue (I know the Rogue is not on demand).

I really like the look of HR Rogue, digital display and big battery even though it is a session vape.

1. Would I be able to use the Rogue as an on demand vape without having to reload dosing capsules each day or each time I want to take a couple of puffs?

2. With the Rogue, will filling the bowl normally, taking a puff or two and then turning it off immediately to resume another day degrade the quality of the flower since it is always heating?

3. From what I have read, TM may need stirring while Rogue does not (but... some say that the Rogue cooks evently because the heat is always on).

As for the TinyMight I am worried that if something breaks, customer support will not be able to replace it or it might come defective. Even though form is more important to me, I am not a fan of the wood design of the TM.

Sorry for the huge wall of text but I am so confused between the two. Would love some help! Thank you!

You have a very clear explanation as to what you are looking for, and the device that comes to mind is the XMax V3 Pro. This vape is around $100, it has both session and on-demand, it heats up very quickly, and while it does not officially support doing capsules, but there are few on this forum that are using dosing capsules with the device. This vape is decent with battery, it is fairly efficient, and I've never had to stir.

Here is some truth; everyone is different, and sometimes it takes a while to find the truth about ourselves. My first vape was a Vane; for $50 I switched to dry herb vaping. From what I learned in these forums, I purchased an Arizer Solo II. In terms of efficient, the Solo is amazing. While the Solo is great, I wanted a portable I could put in my pocket. Next was a Starry v3, then an XMax Fog, then a RYOT VERB, then an Airistech Swtch, XMax V3 Pro, and then an Arizer ArGo. I have a Boundless Tera and a Flowermate Nano coming thanks to the Black Friday sales.

It seems everyone gets hit with Vaporizer Acquisition Syndrome also referred to a 'VAS'. Vaping runs the risk of psychological addition to vaporizers. It isn't cannabis that is addictive, the devices are what's is dangerous to your financial health. The companies that make vapes add special chemicals, additives, boxes, user experiences, and other psychological techniques to get people to buy vapes. VAS is a horrible disease, there is no cure, and it is horribly expensive. VAS can ruin marriages; it can cause fights with friends and family who don't understand why you keep buying vapes.

The idea of an on demand vape is pretty normal. There are people here who use on demand mode; I'm not one of them. Once a bowl heats up, it is nice to finish it. The taste is slightly different when herb is rewarmed. That said, any vape can be turned off mid-session; when I am busy, this what I do. I will have a few puffs, turn the device off, and then go back to the same bowl later. The quality of herb makes a difference here; good tasting flower is always better or on-demand or reheated bowls.

Every vape has different psychoactive effects. For me, the Starry is my heavy hitter, followed by the Arizer Solo. Personally, I find I have different choices during the day. As I write this, I am using the V3 Pro; it has cool vapor, it doesn't hit me so hard, the taste is good. Paired with a nice sativa, it is what starts my day. Everyone is different, and you will find that your likes and dislikes change as time passes.

If you have questions, ask! There are lots people here who can supply you with the information you are looking for.

Robert-in-YEG

"When you are content to be simply yourself and don't compare or compete, everybody will respect you."
~ Lao Tzu, The Tao

 

[Robert-in-YEG]

Totally agree with Bad Dog

You can’t come back to the same bowl and get the same effects each time at all. Once the flavors sucked out the effects are never the same for successive inhalations IMHE.

Perhaps you might clue us in on which vaporizers you currently own or have previously enjoyed using in the past to better give you suggestions?

IMO you should want to be loading a fresh hit every time.

Without knowing too much about your history, Tafee Bowle might be up your alley. The pot system would make it easy to have fresh doses without feeling compelled to rip the same bowl for a week. To each their own but I barely like hitting a bowl more than once or twice.

Totally agree with Bad Dog

You can’t come back to the same bowl and get the same effects each time at all. Once the flavors sucked out the effects are never the same for successive inhalations IMHE.

Perhaps you might clue us in on which vaporizers you currently own or have previously enjoyed using in the past to better give you suggestions?

IMO you should want to be loading a fresh hit every time.

Without knowing too much about your history, Tafee Bowle might be up your alley. The pot system would make it easy to have fresh doses without feeling compelled to rip the same bowl for a week. To each their own but I barely like hitting a bowl more than once or twice.

You can keep sucking on an old bowl, but it tastes like shit. Fresh is always better.

Some people re-use tea bags over and over, and then complain about the taste. There is nothing different here.

Robert-in-YEG

"Happiness doesn't depend on any external conditions, it is governed by our mental attitude."
~Dale Carnegie

 

[Bad Dog]

I should have mentioned the V3 Pro, @Shit Snacks , @bossman and @Robert-in-YEG recommended not only is it a reasonable price but actually is a very solid vape! a excellent first first vape or just a good vape for just about everyone. has the features of the tinymight, on demand mode and session mode, temp stepping, optional wpa, but unlike the tinymight with its analog temperature dial the V3 has by the degree digital temperature screen, and a isolated air path the tinymight does not have. according to the thread the herb chamber is .15g but when I weighed a load it was only .1g so it depends on your weed, grind and packing. for me the V3 is big enough chamber for 2 sessions or a day out taking a hit here and there. today I placed a tinymight basket screen in the top half of the herb chamber to reduce the volume by at least half. if you get the V3 and wpa you can use it identically to how I described the tinymight, with just a sprinkling of herb.

 

[vape_confusion]

Wow guys, thank you so much for all the help! It means a lot!

This is my very first vape and I'd rather pay more for a high-quality one instead of getting another after a few months.

After reading all of your advice I've decided to load a fresh bowl each time using dosing capsules to try to get consistent low-level hits.

Since I'll be using a fresh bowl each time with dosing capsules (thinking of 0.05g per capsule), will the Rogue be fine or is TinyMight/ XMAX V3 Pro the better choice? I can live with 20s heat time vs 5s on the TM. Is themTM/ V3Pro better at extraction?

 

[CANtalk]

I want to buy my first vape which I will use for microdosing.

Things I am looking for:
- must be portable and on demand
- able to load the bowl once and take a puff or two daily for a week or so or when I feel the need for a small bump... without having to reload each day/session
- be able to control the dosage to get the same effect each time
- conserve flower
- high quality and good battery
- would be great if I don't have to stir but it's not a huge deal breaker for me...

With the caveats many have already posted, if I had that want list above I'd saunter over to the Davinci IQ2 with their dosage pods. It ticks all the boxes. Their app for the device includes dosage estimation and tracking, there's a digital progress bar for drawing, etc... lots of tech, programmability and vape options with it. Just a thought and ymmv. Good luck with your search.

 

[Bad Dog]

dosing caps really need a minimum fill level to work properly, especially with convection based devices. the herb will drift and be blown around in the cap if the level is to low. I don't have a rouge so I can't comment on performance and fill level, I also haven't tried caps with my V3, tinymight caps are a crapshoot due to variations in glass stem thickness some are loose and the cap slips in and out but if its loose some air goes around the cap instead of through providing a weaker hit and longer session, opposite stems where the cap is tight provides the best most consistent performance but is difficult to remove easily and not convent for change outs.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Wow guys, thank you so much for all the help! It means a lot!

This is my very first vape and I'd rather pay more for a high-quality one instead of getting another after a few months.

After reading all of your advice I've decided to load a fresh bowl each time using dosing capsules to try to get consistent low-level hits.

Since I'll be using a fresh bowl each time with dosing capsules (thinking of 0.05g per capsule), will the Rogue be fine or is TinyMight/ XMAX V3 Pro the better choice? I can live with 20s heat time vs 5s on the TM. Is themTM/ V3Pro better at extraction?

It is not simply heat up time, on demand versus session, it's the difference of the vape creating the vapor for you, or you creating it as you inhale... They can all extract, it's just different experiences, more power means a harder hitting vape, also going to get better flavor with TM or X-Max V3pro, especially at the lower end, better flavor and control over the various effects at different temperature settings... They do require a little more technique probably than the rogue, but in my opinion it is well worth it, another thing is the smell, the rogue is going to smell more in use... However the rogue works well with the dosing capsules at least because it is that session conduction hybrid, some people use dosing capsules in TM and XMAX however I don't think they work as well, especially at the low temp settings, they always feel less efficient to me, I understand the appeal, but they are annoying to load and unload and just ruin the actual vapor experience imo

These are all very different, but yeah if you want the most versatility, the TM can extract the quickest, would be the best way to do a small amount that you can kill in one or two hits, I don't think dosing capsules is necessary, because it is so easy to load and unload the glass stem basket screen as your bowl chamber, it is better than a capsule, having a capsule just makes it more efficient not really easier because yeah I think dealing with the tiny capsule is annoying as fuck lol The X-Max can do pretty good this way too but again it can't compare to the power of the TM... But not every vape is for everyone, since you haven't tried these it's hard to know, but hit for hit most of us prefer it, but there are plenty of people who prefer something simpler like the Rogue I guess? That will be more pickup and go for you, whereas you will need to get to know the TM a little better, but I think the experience will be more rewarding if you are patient with it!

Good luck dude, a lot of us have multiple vapes, to have backups and different experiences at different times, so don't necessarily knock the idea, thinking getting one good one is the right idea, just because you're spending the money doesn't mean you're going to be fully satisfied, so spending less on more products that are different could be fun (like getting the rogue and the X-Max V3 pro to see how they differ and which one is better for your situation...)

 

[Bad Dog]

you will be able to do smaller loads best with a wpa

 

[Grass Yes]

Mind sharing the details on that j-hook?

 

[Bad Dog]

Mind sharing the details on that j-hook?

just a dirt cheap Chinese j hook from dhgate

 

[Shit Snacks]

Mind sharing the details on that j-hook?

Yeah those are a dime a dozen, there are plenty on DHgate with slightly different shapes, different prices, usually you have to buy two... The Rogue Wax Works sells them in the US but he is also sold out...

If you can afford it, this is going to be the best option for a TM hook imo:

https://oregonglassblower.com/14mm-GLASS-SIDECAR-J-HOOK-LARGE-DIAMETER-LEFT-J-HOOK-SIDECAR.htm

He can make it in 18 mm if you want, just ask, it is based off of my own custom design for the TM, I had him make one in 18 mm with three right angle bends like this and it is great because you can hold it in one hand with the TM and the right angles do so much for cooling the vapor!

If you are in Europe, there is someone in France who also makes these, with some other variations available as options...

 

[Grass Yes]

Thanks @Bad Dog and @Shit Snacks . I am in the US so I might just have to go for the Oregon Glass Blower custom. Been meaning to get one for a while, no time like the present.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Thanks @Bad Dog and @Shit Snacks . I am in the US so I might just have to go for the Oregon Glass Blower custom. Been meaning to get one for a while, no time like the present.

Nice, yeah it is definitely a good investment, he also uses super thick glass!

Another option in the US, for a 14mm hook, is the O'Connell inception J hook, it is pretty nice in purple or smoked glass color, nice intercooling thing, good quality although not as thick as OGB, it will be cheaper, I think 20% off right now on sale as well... But there is no 18mm version of it so you you would have to have the right adapter for the TM in this case...

Yeah I still think the OGB triple right angle hook is the best though!

 

[Bad Dog]

actually the inception j hook comes in amber or smoke now no more purple at least when I looked the other day

 

[Shit Snacks]

actually the inception j hook comes in amber or smoke now no more purple at least when I looked the other day

Oh then the amber is newer, shame there's no more purple, probably will come back someday, maybe with green or blue haha

 

[bossman]

Thanks @Bad Dog and @Shit Snacks . I am in the US so I might just have to go for the Oregon Glass Blower custom. Been meaning to get one for a while, no time like the present.

CIVILIZED

 

[Bad Dog]

I can live with 20s heat time vs 5s on the TM. Is themTM/ V3Pro better at extraction?

the V3 is not as bad as that, with a completely cold vape mine heats up to max temp 428F in 14 seconds. lower temps are much faster and if you are back to backing hits while the vape is warm heat up is only seconds. tinymight is a little faster but its not a great divide like it is between the tinymight and a session vape that takes a minute or two to fully warm up. the tinymight is more powerful than the V3 but again the difference is not earth shaking. tinymight airflow is a bit more open and comfortable than the V3 which is a little restrictive but nothing like a Dynavap which is like sucking a milkshake through a narrow straw. you will be able to take smaller hits with the tinymight and get the same amount of extraction as the V3 with a longer inhale.