Best microdoser that isn’t a Dynavap?

[howie105]

My two favorite small load vapes are my E-Nano and a Da Buddha with a couple of tweaks. The Nano because it is designed for efficiency and adaptability within its limits and the Buddha because with a heater cover and a stem/wand change it as efficient but with a wider open and smoother draw. I see small loads in the .1g down to .01g range where the micro-dose range starts, just so we are on the same load size page.

 

[johnnyCanuck]

If you’re only using the device once a day for one or two hits a day, an option that hasn’t been mentioned is the Grasshopper. I’d say this is one of the best/easiest portable microdoser units available. (One or two daily hit usage won’t beat the crap out of the unit and should hedge more positively towards better reliability).

I know, I know... despite a lifetime warranty, customer service is still lacking but they’re trying. Just answering the question of “best portable microdoser”.

 

[bossman]

If my main focus is A. Microdosing and B. Great flavor, is the Dynavap the best there is? Are there other dry herb options that offer great flavor and big effects with a little flower?

No, VapCaps are decidedly toasty and nowhere close to the best option for chasing flavor. Your Z on the other hand is the best of the ten or twelve portables I've owned.

The Splinter Z is great for microdosing too of course and that makes it a better option for flavor than even the Omni or Omni XL. If you use a third of a basket screen in your Z you can get fluffy clouds comparable to the first full hits of a low temp Mighty session and enjoy flavor for several hits and then decide if you want to go hotter to extract the remaining cannabinoids or just cache it and start fresh for more flavor.

Vapcaps are great for full extraction from small amounts and they have a ton of deserved appreciation for their singularly satisfying ritual and low entry-level price. That said, you can't set precise low temps. That plus the restricted draw puts it way behind your Z for flavor options.

How long have you had that Z now? Last week you were talking about maybe getting rid of it and now that you're getting it working you're ready to buy something new. We have a name for that around here! =)

Also I personally can't recommend popping for an Omni over the new M I preordered. I don't know which vapcap you have now. The Omni and Omni XL are both awesome but it's not like spending $180 is three times as amazing as the new M. It's more about the subtle differences like quicker heat up and cooling and the fun of such a nicely engineered titanium vape.

I love my Fury 2 but don't think it competes with any on demand convection portable for flavor either. The bent stem is more a handy microdosing option for folks who can't figure out how to use anything but session vapes.

 

[Monk Debate]

No, VapCaps are decidedly toasty and nowhere close to the best option for chasing flavor. Your Z on the other hand is the best of the ten or twelve portables I've owned.

The Splinter Z is great for microdosing too of course and that makes it a better option for flavor than even the Omni or Omni XL. If you use a third of a basket screen in your Z you can get fluffy clouds comparable to the first full hits of a low temp Mighty session and enjoy flavor for several hits and then decide if you want to go hotter to extract the remaining cannabinoids or just cache it and start fresh for more flavor.

Vapcaps are great for full extraction from small amounts and they have a ton of deserved appreciation for their singularly satisfying ritual and low entry-level price. That said, you can't set precise low temps. That plus the restricted draw puts it way behind your Z for flavor options.

How long have you had that Z now? Last week you were talking about maybe getting rid of it and now that you're getting it working you're ready to buy something new. We have a name for that around here! =)

Also I personally can't recommend popping for an Omni over the new M I preordered. I don't know which vapcap you have now. The Omni and Omni XL are both awesome but it's not like spending $180 is three times as amazing as the new M. It's more about the subtle differences like quicker heat up and cooling and the fun of such a nicely engineered titanium vape.

I love my Fury 2 but don't think it competes with any on demand convection portable for flavor either. The bent stem is more a handy microdosing option for folks who can't figure out how to use anything but session vapes.

Thank you for the excellent perspective. I wasn’t looking at the Splinter as a microdoser so I should just focus on that for now. And ultimately I think you’re right about the Omnivap. I should just get an XL condenser and a Ti mouthpiece to make my M a bit nicer.

The Firewood is still very tempting for me, as I don’t consider the Z portable in any meaningful way, especially with the XL8R stem. The Vapcap is portable but not wholly convenient since you need a torch to fuel it. Looking at the Firewood thread, it looks like Marc is expecting to release the 6 soon, so I think I will wait and see what that looks like.

Thanks everyone for your suggestions!

 

[Monk Debate]

No, VapCaps are decidedly toasty and nowhere close to the best option for chasing flavor. Your Z on the other hand is the best of the ten or twelve portables I've owned.

The Splinter Z is great for microdosing too of course and that makes it a better option for flavor than even the Omni or Omni XL. If you use a third of a basket screen in your Z you can get fluffy clouds comparable to the first full hits of a low temp Mighty session and enjoy flavor for several hits and then decide if you want to go hotter to extract the remaining cannabinoids or just cache it and start fresh for more flavor.

Vapcaps are great for full extraction from small amounts and they have a ton of deserved appreciation for their singularly satisfying ritual and low entry-level price. That said, you can't set precise low temps. That plus the restricted draw puts it way behind your Z for flavor options.

How long have you had that Z now? Last week you were talking about maybe getting rid of it and now that you're getting it working you're ready to buy something new. We have a name for that around here! =)

Also I personally can't recommend popping for an Omni over the new M I preordered. I don't know which vapcap you have now. The Omni and Omni XL are both awesome but it's not like spending $180 is three times as amazing as the new M. It's more about the subtle differences like quicker heat up and cooling and the fun of such a nicely engineered titanium vape.

I love my Fury 2 but don't think it competes with any on demand convection portable for flavor either. The bent stem is more a handy microdosing option for folks who can't figure out how to use anything but session vapes.

I did just want to add one thought, while the Dynavap ends up crisping flower after a few hits, the Dynacoil is impressively smooth and flavorful even after multiple hits of the same material. I actually think the Dynacoil is one of the best concentrate vaporizers at any price.

 

[FlyingLow]

With regards to flavor, I find the Omni paired with Portside mini able to to GREAT low temp and flavorful hits. Much harder to do with a torch.... The Portside low temps are a breeze. Wait for click, count to two one-thousand, and pull. Will hardly darken your load.

 

[Vaporware]

For a couple of hits a night, you could really consider anything overkill.

If you can accept that then a log does seem like a good option, but anything that’s full convection should work. Portables like the Nomad, Milaana, MVT, iHeat, Splinter, Imp, Glow, Li’l Bud, etc. and desktops like the FlowerPot, Herborizer, Glass Symphony, Evo, etc. are all worth considering.

Personally I’d go with the FlowerPot or Nomad (and I did, although my Nomad is still being built). They’re both pushing the limits of your budget, but you can get a solid WeedEater setup or a Nomad if you can skip upgraded woods and stuff for $300.

If you’re interested, message @Dan Morrison here to get on the Nomad list or try this link for a FlowerPot:

https://www.newvape.com/flowerpot-weedeater-build-a-bundle

If you look at the prices of all of your decent options, I think most of the best ones are in the $200-400 range (including a good mod box if you went with a 510 attachment like a Splinter), and personally I’d stretch my budget to get what I really wanted rather than settling for something cheap that I didn’t love.

Anything I mentioned that looks good to you should be good though, I’d just skip the cheap plasticy stuff and almost anything that’s primarily conduction obviously if you don’t want a full session.

Dynavaps seem to be the most simple vapes in terms of microdosing considering they are small and direct with full convection and they work like a one hitter.

They are great, but they are not full convection. In fact, they are primarily conduction with some convection mixed in. The bowl under the cap heats up along with the cap which is where the conduction comes from.

Since they heat up and cool down so fast though, they don’t have to be used for a full session and that could trick you into thinking that they were primarily convection.

 

[Ramahs]

Given that my current usage is once a day late at night for 2-4 hits total, a log vape seems like overkill.

I apologize, I should have listed a price limit. I don’t want to spend more than $300 altogether, which I know disqualified a few of the vapes people here have been recommending.

I also realize a log vape can be an excellent microdoser, I wasn’t suggesting they can’t be. I just personally would feel like I wasn’t using a log to its full potential if I only used it for 2-4 microdose hits per night.

For what it's worth, I think that a log is perfect for someone that only wants a few hits. That's where a log excels. I'm reminded of what Bud (The Vape Critic) said a while back in his enano review where he started out by saying it's for "very very small amounts at a time", and then later when he said that "it's crazy, you could vape a crumb", if that's all you had or all you wanted to use. I'm mostly a microdoser, and that statement by Bud was literally what brought my sights towards wanting to get a log.
(This is the video I was talking about)
(You may also appreciate Troy's review of the Woodscents, just for shits and giggles)

 

[Monk Debate]

For what it's worth, I think that a log is perfect for someone that only wants a few hits. That's where a log excels. I'm reminded of what Bud (The Vape Critic) said a while back in his enano review where he started out by saying it's for "very very small amounts at a time", and then later when he said that "it's crazy, you could vape a crumb", if that's all you had or all you wanted to use. I'm mostly a microdoser, and that statement by Bud was literally what brought my sights towards wanting to get a log.
(This is the video I was talking about)
(You may also appreciate Troy's review of the Woodscents, just for shits and giggles)

Well I appreciate you pushing against my preconceptions of logs, because that does sound exactly like what I want. I’ll take another look at the E-nano!

 

[BabyFacedFinster]

+1 on the nano for everything except portability.

 

[bossman]

I did just want to add one thought, while the Dynavap ends up crisping flower after a few hits, the Dynacoil is impressively smooth and flavorful even after multiple hits of the same material. I actually think the Dynacoil is one of the best concentrate vaporizers at any price.

Super cool. I've yet to try concentrates outside of carts but I did get a dynacoil for 420 in the event that should change.

 

[Ramahs]

Well I appreciate you pushing against my preconceptions of logs, because that does sound exactly like what I want. I’ll take another look at the E-nano!

I truly don't want to try to push you into getting something you don't really want...but I think a combination of those two videos above may cause you to suspect that logs are as fantastic of a microdoser as I believe that they are.

Honestly, it's my opinion that every vaporist should have a log in their collection, no matter what else they have. It will always be that "ol' reliable" that will do everything from microdosing to heavy hitting whenever you need it.

Perfection is a log combined with a smart plug so you can always start it heating up ten minutes or so before you plan to use it no matter where you are at the time. I love to turn my log on from my phone when I'm leaving work, so it will be ready to go as soon as I get home.

@Summer might get mad at me for still posting about the log...but my opinion is my opinion.
(my bad, Summer)

 

[splitz]

Vapman

 

[arb]

The Nano is an incredible device.

 

[guyonthecouch]

My buddy has great results microdosing with the Magic Flight Launch Box. He literally vapes a couple flakes at a time. I can't use it at all though, definitely a learning curve(one that turned me away from the device).

You can achieve micro dosing with most vapes with the aid of spacer/chamber filler.

 

[little maggie]

I agree that a log is a great choice. I have most of the logs out there and my favorite is the hi- but they are all great.
Just to add another suggestion for microdosing is the MVT by mistvape. It's on demand, uses a battery and is one of the few vapes with a 14mm stem.

 

[entirely_foreign]

I only own Splinter V1, not a Z, but it's a fantastic microdoser. Use the double screen pack method - put a few crumbs into a screen, then insert a second screen into the first, so that the herb is between the two screens. Pre-heat and hit. You'll get all the flavor and most of the medicine in one go. I can't imagine a Z is much worse at this than a V1.

If you're still looking for more devices, consider a sticky brick. Great flavor, and you can microdose to your heart's content. I've vaped a single crumb in it before, just to see if I can.

 

[Monk Debate]

How do the HI and Underdog logs compare to the E-nano and Woodscent?

 

[little maggie]

How do the HI and Underdog logs compare to the E-nano and Woodscent?

I may not be the best person to answer since my enano and and underdog vapes are old and there have probably been improvements. There have been other threads where people compare the enano and UD. I prefer the UD for several reasons: the UD includes a choice of several stems- that makes it simple to try different styles of microdosing stems. Great customer service. A complaint about it is that it has a longer heat up time but that's not a problem if leaving it on.
The woodscent is unique in style since its stems also work with vapcap and vice versa. A great vape if you own a vc. I can't compare mine because it's one Ed made for me that he says is different from standard. Not sure what's different. But it is solid and taste and smell are good.
As for the HI- Alan is an artist (as is Ed) His vapes are beautiful, simple to use and taste good. There's usually a wait because he hand makes them. He also makes a variety of stems that fit the HI and other vapes. You might look at the stems regardless of what you end up buying.

 

[YaMon]

The Firefly though sounds like it might be perfect. The five chambers are nice and small, but the vape is efficient enough that I can get the 2-4 hits I want off one bowl. And if I did need to go out and about, I could fill up a bowl or two (or three or four) and it’s all contained in the vape, no separate container like the Ghost. And I do love to support independent creators.

I think you meant Firewood?

I also realize a log vape can be an excellent microdoser, I wasn’t suggesting they can’t be. I just personally would feel like I wasn’t using a log to its full potential if I only used it for 2-4 microdose hits per night.

If you bought it, it's up to you how you use it. I have a NewVape FlowerPot and the beautiful thing about it is all the different ways you may use it. There are as many variations with the vape as there are members here, and no two are alike yet all of them hit really well!!! Yes Mon!!

Are you currently using all of your vapes in every way they have been designed or found to function? I for one am not, but in due time..

That said, still no reason not too get another vape. Every vape has a different ritual, signature and experience just like fine wines. Finding the right woman, wine and vape in your life is a worthwhile endeavor.

Edit: Of course there are different moments in life which require, well you know, different woman, wine and vapes!

 

[Ramahs]

That said, still no reason not too get another vape. Every vape has a different ritual, signature and experience just like fine wines. Finding the right woman, wine and vape in your life is a worthwhile endeavor.

I couldn't agree more. I wouldn't want to sell any vape in my collection (except maybe the Alternate), because each provides a unique experience, and I like to vary my experience from time to time. Variety is nice, as my VAS has taught me.

Let the VAS enlighten you and strengthen you. It will help you find peace and guide you all of your days.

 

[little maggie]

I didn't realize you wanted a portable. You seem attracted to the firefly which I know nothing about but you might ask on the firefly thread. Since you're so drawn to it maybe that's the one to get
Given your goals I'd actually recommend the nomad. Each one is unique, beautiful, personally designed by you, great customer service- I know are not your priorities at all. But it's easily portable, a bit smaller than the fury 2, has small stems that seem designed for microdosing, great taste and smell.

 

[letter never sent]

For those recommending the Nomad, isn't the wait list really long? Like, over a year long?

I'd definitely consider the Woodscents if I were you. I got into Dynavap over the past few months, and the Woodscents is now high on my list. It seems to pair perfectly with Vapcaps.

With regards to flavor, I find the Omni paired with Portside mini able to to GREAT low temp and flavorful hits. Much harder to do with a torch.... The Portside low temps are a breeze. Wait for click, count to two one-thousand, and pull. Will hardly darken your load.

Really? I just got an Omni and my experience with the PSM has been totally different. My Omni seems to skip the great flavor if I go straight for the IH. Bit of a toasty taste right off the bat. No issues when using a torch to start - the initial flavor hits are great. It seems like the titanium tip is heating up too quickly in the IH. I don't have this issue with the stainless M.

 

[Vaporware]

@letter never sent Yes the Nomad list is long, but that’s a reason to get on it now rather than waiting. Plus there’s a small chance one might come up for sale used.

Obviously it’s not something a new user with no other options should count on being able to get ahold of quickly, but anyone else who’s looking for a new convection portable should at least take a look at it, and I think even new users should know about it in case they want to get on the list.

 

[Monk Debate]

I didn't realize you wanted a portable. You seem attracted to the firefly which I know nothing about but you might ask on the firefly thread. Since you're so drawn to it maybe that's the one to get
Given your goals I'd actually recommend the nomad. Each one is unique, beautiful, personally designed by you, great customer service- I know are not your priorities at all. But it's easily portable, a bit smaller than the fury 2, has small stems that seem designed for microdosing, great taste and smell.

The Firefly? Not really, did you mean the Firewood? I’m definitely interested in that.

It doesn’t have to be portable but at the moment the only device I have that I would feel comfortable taking and using out in public is the Pax Era, or in a pinch the Divine Tribe v3.5 ceramic atomizer. Nothing for flower.

At the moment I’m more leaning towards waiting to see what the Firewood 6 brings to the table. The log vapes do look awesome and maybe I’ll get one on Black Friday now that all the 4/20 deals have passed.