AtmosRaw

[WatTyler]

...People wonder why I don't post often in the forums...now you know...sigh..anyone feel like defending me?

To be honest I'll defend you here theVaporSpot. I think you've been treated appallingly by some members here, and that rant and personal attack that just came from Stone__man was quite disgusting.

I've really enjoyed reading and watching your thoughtful, helpful and informative recent posts and videos. I for one hope you stick around.

 

[jambandphan03]

So, I just took the mouth piece off, took out the ceramic filter but left in the screen, and stuck one of my ego mega atty derlin drip tip mouthpieces in there and it fit. That made it a little better for the rubber smell. I was wondering, wouldn't placing a metal screen onto the coil create a short? I did that with an e cig once, and it popped the coil as soon as I activated it. I don't know if I will bother messing with that.

 

[VaporBoxed]

...People wonder why I don't post often in the forums...now you know...sigh..anyone feel like defending me?

To be honest I'll defend you here theVaporSpot. I think you've been treated appallingly by some members here, and that rant and personal attack that just came from Stone__man was quite disgusting.

I've really enjoyed reading and watching your thoughtful, helpful and informative recent posts and videos. I for one hope you stick around.

TVS i also defend you here. I am disgusted with not only stonemans attack here but on your youtube video comments as well. I dont get why some forum members here can be such dicks. I cant even post in the TV vape because i have no words. Ive looked back at all your posts and theyre nothing but friendly and i dont understand why people feel the need to be mean. This is an open discussion forum.
i personally apologize for these members and really appreciate your video reviews. Stick around.

 

[Gonzo]

I will also defend you TVS. Even though I do not agree with your TV review video I still enjoy having someone who has tried many vapes offer video reviews. I too hope you will stay around and would love it if you would do a review of the Stealthvape and Omicron Herb Chamber once they are released.

 

[OF]

Grow some thicker skin please as I'm not attacking ANYONE other than Atmos.

People wonder why I don't post often in the forums...now you know...sigh..anyone feel like defending me? Anyone else feel like I had an agenda? because my only agenda was to spread the MISINFORMATION spread by ATMOS....don't call it a vaporizer and you would have better expectations and much better client satisfaction...

I don't blame you (or any of the others like you that brave the upset behind their computers), but thank you for your efforts. Your opinions are no less valid than anyone's that I can see. And yes, some of us are in fact defending you.

Your point that a opinion of a product degraded into a series of personal attacks and accusations that could take your breath away is well taken IMO.

Thanks.

Don't trust VaporSpot's video? Fine. Take the words of those on here (jambandphan, mephisto, southernboy) who have bought one and found it to be an e-pipe, NOT a vaporizer. YOU were the one spreading false information on here about the AR (made in the USA??). The AtmosRaw looked like a POS from the get go, and now it's been found out to be pretty much that. Sorry you were wrong about this one Stone_Man. Your reactionary post to VaporSpot's negative review is doubly odd, since you've been hating on the TV (even tho you don't own and haven't tried one) in multiple threads here on FC....

Spot on. At first I dismissed it as 'shooting the messenger', but that might not be the whole story. One thing sure, VS was the 'canary in the coal mine', the first to call foul. And now his opinion seems vindicated. As I've said before, sometimes you've got to filter what you read based on author......

I am more upset about the rubber smell than the combustion. I can deal with the combustion, but that smell is aweful. Like sucking on a tennis shoe sole. I would have felt that way even if it did vape instead of burn the herb.

The fact you can smell the smell says it will go away. It's a matter of time and temperature. Keep it warm and it will go faster. A sunny window? On top of some appliance? The smell actually drops fairly fast in such cases, but unfortunately we can smell pretty small levels so it often has to drop a long long way.

BTW, if I were you I'd keep that 'combustion is OK' talk to yourself.......consider the forum name.....

Good luck.

OF

 

[jambandphan03]

I see your point OF but I won't censor my opinion just because others don't agree. I am not here boasting that this is the greatest thing ever by any means, and if I am ok with smoking I don't think I should have to tippi-toe around it. I realize this is a vapor forum, and I agree with the point that vaporizing is the healthy way to go, but I don't think I should have to keep it to myself, and not say the C word, that is just silly. Deal with it, and move on. I am not here to crash anyone's vape party, in fact I had hoped this was going to be a vaporizing device, little too late for that now.

 

[zmurder]

really buddy? whats this? copied from your mflb page ?
# Option Price Sales Tax
1 launchbox $129.00

I frankly do not care who defends you..

and who said I was spreading false info, the fact is I shared info, as best I can recall from phone calls to them , I shared what I was told. and after doing so also said, I'd hate to think info I share here is not true or half truths.

its funny TV guy what u did in vids is this, u get a product in to sell, make vid say its great "call it a consolation/review...and don't forget folks ,come buy it from me, then much time goes by (total of 6 vids for this cat) he makes a negative review of atmos and pretty much the next day a negative vid on the Thermovape too.

I think I would buy into your take on products if you were someone who actually reviewed many products, with many many vap reviews.

and how odd it is that these (AR and TV) are BOTH vapes that have/had interest here on this forum.

things with you are not what they appear to be outwardly. I made notes of a LOT of things in your 'review' that was done on your part premeditated. to make it appear even worse than it may be.

one quick one, how is it that the regular individuals "and quite inexperienced in vaporizer can get awesome hits from the AR right out of the box and yet you with all of your knowledge of vapes can't even get at hit till the third draw?



please do answer that, and there are many more to go along with it, I had to watch you vid several times, as the way you "worked it" is not readily apparent the first time around.

People who do UNBIASED straight up reviews (of any product) NEVER giggle, chuckle, and speak in tones as you did, negative and dismissive tones. and for that matter they speak much better than you. why do you think unbiased reviewers ALWAY make a point to get factual info out WITHOUT color, and your clear as day , commercials for your shop of the items you sell. your like a wanna be used car sales men. I suggest if you intend to continue your reviews let some one speak that can do it better than you.



so please oh wise one, tell us how u could not do it... and btw peeps it was the same story with the thermovape review, after 3 tries he finally gets a hit? coincidence? I think not.

rat.

Though I love the stuff, I'm reminded every once in a while that not everybody should use marijuana.

As mods will no doubt soon note, you're way out of line here Stone_Man. But more importantly, you're not making any sense. Your conspiracy theory is bizarre. I disagree with VaporSpot's review of the TV, and it's certainly possible that his technique could be improved on the AR......but it seems that other owners on here agree with his combustion conclusion. What are you missing here?

 

[SD_haze]

...People wonder why I don't post often in the forums...now you know...sigh..anyone feel like defending me?

To be honest I'll defend you here theVaporSpot. I think you've been treated appallingly by some members here, and that rant and personal attack that just came from Stone__man was quite disgusting.

I've really enjoyed reading and watching your thoughtful, helpful and informative recent posts and videos. I for one hope you stick around.

Seconded (for a 5th time)

 

[OF]

I see your point OF but I won't censor my opinion just because others don't agree.

Hey, calm down, only poking fun. You're welcome to smoke most anything you'd like far as I'm concerned......

Just don't expect everyone to agree with you....not that I think you do.

OF

 

[jambandphan03]

ok ok it just got really crazy in here... I'm calmer than you, Dude... hehehe

 

[jambandphan03]

So does anyone have anything to say about the pics I posted? I do like the design of the coil, that was the idea we had come up with as a way to actually make this idea fly, now if they added a ceramic disk to heat the herb like the VG does, that might make it vape (in theory)

**Crap, I double posted again, when will I learn, SORRY MOD!!

 

[OF]

Cool. Probably never happened.....

OF

 

[theVaporSpot]

one quick one, how is it that the regular individuals "and quite inexperienced in vaporizer can get awesome hits from the AR right out of the box and yet you with all of your knowledge of vapes can't even get at hit till the third draw?

sigh here we go...
-we were ILLUSTRATING exactly what a new user would do.

Why the heck are you defending it so much? sell em online? know the rep? I've got a retail vapor bar that specializes in vapes and e-cigs. We see a lot of traffic and get a lot of feedback. the video is a condensed version of that feedback, not the first time hitting it. The 2-5-8 second hits show the average user how much work this device is to get a good hit..

Should I just do what every other video on youtube does? stand in front of a mirror with my shirt off and take drags for the camera with no information?

if you don't like the messenger fine..we're very casual here, and the fact that we can have fun at a VAPOR BAR should be embraced. Vapor IS fun. Suit and Tie get checked at the door as does stuffiness and such. when done properly Vapor is an eye-opening flavor, robust hit, and mind-numbing effect. When its NOT that, I'll try to warn people WHY...But the message still holds up, and you haven't done anything but sling mud..

My next video will be a lineup of every portable vape on the market being used in a row. with the lights fully up. With no agenda other than to show that we are scientists and not car salesmen. people know i'm full retail and a bit more than direct warehouse. We are only successful because of the relationships we make with our clients, and by the fact that we don't sell EVERY vape on the market and can suggest GREAT DEVICES, not mediocre or heavily flawed ones. We've built solid relationships with both vendors, customers, and hopefully this forum.

But its easy to sling, why not back it up with some vids or reviews of your own showing how awesome this device is..

And running a bar is hard work..Which is why there are so few videos...try participating and not hating..



try to act like a gentleman and please try to take the blinders off...

 

[jambandphan03]

I thought you put a good effort into the video, straight up. If you don't want smoke, this is important to know about. I didn't see you do anything unusual, and I wouldn't buy into the accusations being tossed at you VapeSpot. I found it heats up quick and suddenly your herb is getting toasted. I dumped out ASH not even brown herb, check the picture. If anyone thinks this is a vaporizing device they will be misled, and then disappointed when they buy it.

 

[SD_haze]

My next video will be a lineup of every portable vape on the market being used in a row. with the lights fully up. With no agenda other than to show that we are scientists and not car salesmen. people know i'm full retail and a bit more than direct warehouse. We are only successful because of the relationships we make with our clients, and by the fact that we don't sell EVERY vape on the market and can suggest GREAT DEVICES, not mediocre or heavily flawed ones. We've built solid relationships with both vendors, customers, and hopefully this forum.

Looking forward to it.

 

[jambandphan03]

Well, this thing is getting me heavily medicated, just put some dry bubble hash in there and it's handling it just fine. I don't feel completely ripped off. It could be better, esp the nasty rubber odor, but I can honestly say I will keep using this as a portable device for now. I like the size, and it does the job good enough. Changing the mouth piece helped a lot too... I don't hate it, but I don't love it either. So to all of you looking for a true vape, this isn't it.

 

[SF Giant]

I fully support TVS here and hope he continues to be a part of the community, if there is anyone in this situation with questionable motives id say it is most likely not TVS

 

[bruno13]

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Damn bad memory... after pulling the parts out of the drawer, I realized I did have it wrong, 4081 I have not messed with any of that stuff in a while. Sorry bout that. I just tried it on a new cart and it won't fit, not sure why it fit on the first one... must have been an old cart.

Thanks

 

[jambandphan03]

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Damn bad memory... after pulling the parts out of the drawer, I realized I did have it wrong, 4081 I have not messed with any of that stuff in a while. Sorry bout that. I just tried it on a new cart and it won't fit, not sure why it fit on the first one... must have been an old cart.

Thanks

I did find this.. https://www.planetvape.ca/omicron-screw-adapters.html you might be interested. I could not figure out the threading on the atomos though, it is different than anything I might have to work with. I did hope my 510 battery would work, I have a bunch of those laying around. For a smoking device, this thing works.

 

[VaporNinja]

they should name this vape the 'AtmosFlaw' instead

 

[OF]

they should name this vape the 'AtmosFlaw' instead

Oh, I don't know, "Raw" might actually sum it up? Trouble is guys were looking for Atmos Refined.....

I agree with others, the 'business end' does look like a car cigarette lighter. And we have a spring to hold the herb in contact with the glowing part we think would light a cigarette just fine. Lighting it seems kinda natural at that level.

I'm not so sure about dumping bubble hash in, it could get kinda messy. I made a cherry in my eclipse one time. I swear 'never again'. It's enough to get you back in church and then some. My throat still twinges when I think about it.

For myself, I'm gonna pass on this one for now.

OF

 

[jambandphan03]

I was using pretty old crumbly bubble, it worked just fine, in fact I loaded it twice, no problems. I wouldn't put ANYTHING sticky or melty in there though. That would be a mess. Dry good, sticky bad.

 

[VaporNinja]

I wouldn't even buy this thing for $10.99.

 

[Stone__Man]

I don't have the inclination not the time to go into it all right now. but there are a few things I'd like to say.

I was a bit harsh, upon re-evaluation, and I certainly could have chosen more tactful words and a better means of delivery and for that I do sincerely apologize, to one and all, including tvs, no not including, particularly tvs.

I do have issues, I will make them known, and do my best to not come across in any sort of brash manner.

I have been upset lately, in general, dealing with issues in my life. I know that is no excuse but its a fact.

I learned from my elders it is NEVER wise to speak in anger.

I will explain everything about this whole thing and my views and try my best to explain, I feel the why's of any given situation or matter are of great importance. so tomorrow or at soonest, I will expound upon my WHY and try to do it in a clear and concise way. (the concise bit can be a challenge for me at times )

WHY
ask yourself WHY you defend him in specific terms.

what exactly in tvs are you defending?

are you defending him and his ways? or are you defending his negative review of the AR?

what exactly about what I have said is so wrong? and on what grounds are u basing your support of him and this judgement of me wrong?

ask yourself why you did not consider my WHY.

WHY is it made out to be a me against him?

what EXACTLY are the issues here?

WHY has no one asked me my side?

WHY is that fair?

please everyone consider this, do u know what the issue is before u take a side in ANY given situation not this one?

I honestly think some do not know or have not even considered what my real issues are. WHY?

and the last WHY

WHY do you THINK you understand this is about the AR? or a me v tvs? WHY

Is it easy to stand behind someone or something when you are the majority.

I have points which should to be considered BEFORE you judge me. PERIOD
yet no one seems to care about that i suppose.

Is it wise for one to judge another without first hearing THEIR sides of a situation?
ONLY THEN should one form a conclusion.

I can not imagine justice based on such process.

I implore you to ask yourselves these WHY questions, and take time to consider your WHY.

I know EXACTLY what my WHY's are and you should too. Do?

What are all the variables? Do you know them?

what factors are used to form your conclusion?

Things are not always as they seem. truer words have not been spoken.

one last thing Ild like to share with you all , I'll leave it up to you to determine its relevance

This is a Native American Proverb, Introspective through and through. So simple yet so powerful, it never fails to move me. I know I needed to read it again for that fact that is does.

An old Cherokee is teaching his grandson about life:

A fight is going on inside me, he said to the boy. It is a terrible fight and it is between two wolves. One is evil - he is anger, envy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego. The other is good - he is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion, and faith. This same fight is going on inside you - and inside every other person, too.
The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather,Which wolf will win?
The old Cherokee simply replied, The one that you feed.

Stone__Man out

 

[WatTyler]

ask yourself WHY you defend him in specific terms.
what exactly in tvs are you defending?

Contribution to this community

ask yourself why you did not consider my WHY.

your why for what? Being rude and attacking to someone? Fair enough to ask someones motives, but you went beyond that. No excuse why, as you've recognised.

WHY is it made out to be a me against him?

It WAS you against him. A pretty direct personal attack and uncalled for name calling.

what EXACTLY are the issues here?

Mainly yours. Aside of your earlier bad manner, which you recognise, I'm not really clear

WHY has no one asked me my side?
WHY is that fair?
please everyone consider this, do u know what the issue is before u take a side in ANY given situation not this one?
I honestly think some do not know or have not even considered what my real issues are. WHY?
........I can not imagine justice based on such process.

WTF? the man made a vaporizer review video and you responded impolitely. Judgement? Justice? Sides? Get a grip. There are 2 sides, both opinions.

I know EXACTLY what my WHY's are and you should too. Do?

You have a very high opinion of yourself. Why should I take anymore time out of my life than I have already wasted to understand your WHY ramblings? It's up to you if you want to be understood.



To be honest I couldn't care less whatever shit it is that you think that you have dredged up that forms the basis of your reasoning. Keep your 'list' of personal grievances to yourself IMO.

It was one users video review and an opinion. I judge it on that basis, along with all the other videos and opinions I see and hear. I like to hear lots of opinion from a few different sources before I consider purchasing a vape. Thanks to ALL who post.

There's absolutely no need for any denigration.