Aromazap/Myrtlezap/CeramicRockZap

[the ob]

I have to chill on the accessories as well. Lwien made me buy a two piece grinder yesterday and now he is making me buy some little space case stash cases as well.

the mini beaker has been calling my name.

this is going to bankrupt me. I do think I have all the vapes I need for a while. four is plenty. for now.

btw. tried hash and it got all gunked up in there.

 

[momofthegoons]

Well we're on par with the vapes ob; for now I have 4 too. But I may have you beat on the stems. I'm working on it. And I understand how it goes. Indigal and Lo made me buy cool jars, tins, vials and dropper bottles.

The trick to the hash is to not use it alone. That's when I get into trouble gunking up my stems. I've got one stock stem that's barely got "breathing space" left no matter how long I keep it in ISO. Fortunately, I've got several others now and, of course, my glass.

Yeah, that beaker is calling me too. I simply cannot believe I'm even thinking of a bong. I haven't thought of that since I was in my teens/early 20's. Now that I basically have empty nest, I don't have to be as cautious about what I have lying around. Of course, all that will change if grandchildren come into the picture. As long as I don't have to go back to the years of sneaking herb in the bathroom, I'm good. I have wayyyy to much paraphernalia to cart around now!!!

And where the heck is that picture?

 

[Rick]

Lwein
I was quoted earlier but to put it in a nutshell, it is the increased mass of the heatport that makes the difference. And to be clear, we are not running hotter, except maybe just a tad. The main difference is there is more heat to go around, or actually through the heatport center tube. For those who understand electricity even a little, an analogy would be we have the same voltage but 20% more amperage as far as heat goes. There is more push to the heat. The pipe is bigger but the pressure is the same. Etc, etc. Anyway we surely are glad to hear that feedback. Our original heatport mass was similar to the Eterra and worked for years so we did not change it.
ob, I am so glad you are happy with your new girl. She is more full bodied(mmmgood) and dense by alot than your original. The new heatport pumps this dense wood just fine. Thanks for the pics.
90% of the Zaps out of Zapville have a led BTW. They do not run any warmer than those without. Somewhere along the line way back when leds got a bad name from another manufacturer for some reason or another. We have never had one fail or found they produce any extra heat.

 

[jordon23]

Hey Rick,
What size tube is on top of the zap where the stem fits in? I need a few tiny pieces to sink into my zap station to hold stems. I think that would make the best stem holder for my set up. It also wouldn't take away from the wood look of my zap station.

 

[lwien]

Thanks Rick.

To those that are thinking about getting the HVY mini-beaker, well, all I gotta say is that I fill mine up with hot water and use it every time I load up a stem. It's that good. (sorry, ob, but it is )

 

[AGBeer]

Yeah, that beaker is calling me too. I simply cannot believe I'm even thinking of a bong. I haven't thought of that since I was in my teens/early 20's. Now that I basically have empty nest, I don't have to be as cautious about what I have lying around. Of course, all that will change if grandchildren come into the picture. As long as I don't have to go back to the years of sneaking herb in the bathroom, I'm good. I have wayyyy to much paraphernalia to cart around now!!!

And where the heck is that picture?

The glass water filtration is always nice to have on standby. It works wonderfully with my Zap, and I will say that the stubby makes it that much easier. (I likes the stubby with the bong more than the standard stem) I dont have a beaker, but I do have a 8" (I think) HVY mini bong (I picked it up from a local HS) my zap has no problems milking it and its useable with my other vape (sv) I love having options at my vaked moments desire. Grab one to have in your collection. You might not use it on the regular (after you break it in/play with it) but you wont regret that you got it Just keep it out of sight until its ready to be utilized.

 

[Key]

Hey Rick, I ordered a Myrtlezap a couple days ago, any idea when it will be on its way?

Thanks.

 

[B.]

Seems like a lot of us are opting to leave the light off of our new zaps. I also requested no light, it just seems cooler.

By "cooler" I just meant looks cooler, didn't meant to imply that the LED added any heat.

 

[Rick]

Thanks for clarifying that B. I have heard often here on FC that the led can be a problem in log type vapes but we have never experienced that. I must say the Zaps do look cooler without a led when the grain is special. Your Myrtle heads out of here with a bunch of others today. Should be there Monday/Tuesday.
Key, anything ordered in the last few days will not go out til next week. We are keeping 'the line' at about a week from order to ship. This week we kicked ass to get back to our comfy zone. It was getting a bit messy but is better now.
The tube on the top where the stem fits in is 5/16 inner dimension. Outer dimension is 11/32"
Anyone interested in switching out your old heatport to the new design please Email me and I will give you some options. I am going to leave it that way for now because I have been contacted by less than a handful of folks about this issue.

 

[Screwdriver]

While I read the LED issue with other competing products, I pretty much knew it was way oversold. Being in the IT field I work around hundreds of LED's.... Server, UPS, Switches, Phones, etc......I have yet to see a single one go out.

I just wanted a clean MZ....plus I am surrounded by LED's all day...Even at home as I type this. LED's on my Satellite box, phone charger, Wii, PS3, and access point.

Don't need another one messin up a beautiful piece of wood when trying to relax.

 

[vap999]

The tube on the top where the stem fits in is 5/16 inner dimension. Outer dimension is 11/32".

How does the MZ output pipe (and inhalation stems/tubes) compare in size to other similar vaporizers, such as the PD? Can the inhalation stems/tubes from one be used with the other?

I presume that output pipe and inhalation stem/tube dimensions, which directly affect air flow and delivery, are major determinants of vaporizer performance. Can anyone report on how differences (presuming that there are differences) in output stems and inhalation tubes between these similar vaporizers affect their performance? Or can anyone speculate on any theoretical advantages different sized output stems and inhalation tubes may provide? For example, is larger diameter output pipe better?

 

[Rick]

I'll stop with the LED stuff. I love to hear customers say they don't want one for all the reasons stated above. Hell, they are easier and cheaper to build. I have had a few customers make reference to "running hotter" or "breaking sooner" or "drawing juice from the heater", etc, etc that was bullshit so I was a bit chompy about that subject. No Mas
Screwdriver, yours went out yesterday with another bunch. I just have not Emailed you the info yet. I think we might have screwed up and left a tool in the package though, you know, like surgeons do on occasion?
Friday and Saturday USPS shipments usually always arrive the same day, Monday. Most people do not know the mail moves every day, holiday or not. Not the same with the other carriers. That is why Mondays can be busy for them(USPS) as they have two days mail waiting to be sorted.
edit for:
Output/stem pipes are generally the same size in these log type vapes. They are specifically different in that different products vary in size or are sold in metric sizes making them just slightly different. Stems are not all interchangeable between the log vapes but I think ours will work in all three. I'm sure others will expand on the specific differences but they are all very close or the units would not work properly as we all use the same spec heater, the Ohmite 25J20RE.

 

[the ob]

The tube on the top where the stem fits in is 5/16 inner dimension. Outer dimension is 11/32".

How does the MZ output pipe (and inhalation stems/tubes) compare in size to other similar vaporizers, such as the PD? Can the inhalation stems/tubes from one be used with the other?

I presume that output pipe and inhalation stem/tube dimensions, which directly affect air flow and delivery, are major determinants of vaporizer performance. Can anyone report on how differences (presuming that there are differences) in output stems and inhalation tubes between these similar vaporizers affect their performance? Or can anyone speculate on any theoretical advantages different sized output stems and inhalation tubes may provide? For example, is larger diameter output pipe better?

they are extremely close in size. the MZ stems will fit into the other log vapes easily but the same is not necessarily true the other way around. The stem tips will fit into the MZ but it is really tight. I can tell you being an owner of a glass stem that has longer and wider dimensions that you will get bigger, cooler hits with a stem that is longer and wider. hope that helps a bit.

 

[max]

Lo: Don't go too off topic (talking about alcoholic drinks and watermelons). The mods here are militant about following the rules.

Are we really? I guess everyone has their own opinion. I'd say we let a lot of minor stuff slide. We're not all the same of course. Mods are individuals like everyone else, and we're allowed to apply where and how we enforce the rules. We are, however, pretty much on the same page overall.

If you mean alcohol posts = off topic, I think you may be confusing FC with another forum where that's prohibited.

As for Lo, I think she could quote the rules from memory, so don't worry about her.

 

[Screwdriver]

Screwdriver, yours went out yesterday with another bunch. I just have not Emailed you the info yet. I think we might have screwed up and left a tool in the package though, you know, like surgeons do on occasion?

Rick......I hope it is a sawzall.......

 

[the electrician]

I'd say we let a lot of minor stuff slide.

teehee

I presume that output pipe and inhalation stem/tube dimensions, which directly affect air flow and delivery, are major determinants of vaporizer performance. Can anyone report on how differences (presuming that there are differences) in output stems and inhalation tubes between these similar vaporizers affect their performance? Or can anyone speculate on any theoretical advantages different sized output stems and inhalation tubes may provide? For example, is larger diameter output pipe better?

now this is a point ive been wanting to address for some time, but i dont have the wherewithal to test and without seeing the result myself im less confident. my view is that you need to match the diameter of hot air output to that of the bowl, as all the log vaporizers do as standard, to gain maximum efficiency. da buddha also features this design, but i feel the 18mm opening is too big. the supreme is good example (i think, never seen its inner workings) and it seems to be considered something of a don

whats the best size? dunno. one of these days im gonna get together my data and start a thread on the subject "on the design of a bowl" or similar



ahhh you were on about something different. bloody hell fire

 

[max]

I'd say we let a lot of minor stuff slide.

teehee

Definitely a lot of your stuff.

 

[the electrician]

I'd say we let a lot of minor stuff slide.

teehee

Definitely a lot of your stuff.

what am doing that offends the moderating staff so much? i post infrequently enough to be ignored and ive even tried to help out the community on a few occasions when i do say something. i see some things slide alright but definitely not my misdoings, they send me right to the jail

 

[max]

what am doing that offends the moderating staff so much?

Possibly the "teehee" response to my comment? I'll send you an official FC email, maybe listing your infraction worthy posts that we did let slide. Meanwhile, back on topic....

 

[momofthegoons]

ob said: added the dark side.

mom, I am pretty sure it is the one you liked as well.

ob, if anyone was going to get that one, I'm glad it was you. It's really a nice one. I didn't notice you had put up the additional pic until just now. The comparison still shows gray to me, but oh well. The Universe is sparing me wanting another Zap. It's a good thing too because I've still got to finish accessorizing.

 

[the ob]

morning update. I used (and spent a lot of time staring) at my new vape last night. she is beautiful. I cannot say that I noticed her running significantly hotter than my other one, but normally I plug them in a couple of hours before I use them and last night it had only been about 40 min. also, as stated before my other one is a lot less dense and smaller and I always thought it seems like it ran hotter than most peoples.

first application of zapolish and today I am off to buy some more stash cases. I am becoming obsessed with these now.

mom, were you happy with all the glass jars, tins, vials that you bought before. what sizes did you buy?

mom,
I just tried to email you the images. if that does not work, you can send me your email (if you are comfortable) and I will email the image. thanks. I love her.

 

[AGBeer]

Screwdriver, yours went out yesterday with another bunch. I just have not Emailed you the info yet. I think we might have screwed up and left a tool in the package though, you know, like surgeons do on occasion?

Rick......I hope it is a sawzall.......

Hell, if thats the case then I better get to ordering another Zap here soon too. It just might 'accidentally' come with a lathe. Loving the new Zapporn people. Keep the pics a coming!

 

[the ob]

Is everyone having a problem seeing the comparison pics at the end of my pictures? just curious?

 

[Screwdriver]

Is everyone having a problem seeing the comparison pics at the end of my pictures? just curious?

Nope.

 

[momofthegoons]

ob, I just got the email. Sent you a response. Thanks for taking the time to send it to me. I don't know why I'm the only one who couldn't see it, especially since I could see the others! If I'm not mistaken, your first Zap was one of the new styles so only the size and density would make it run a different temp. You've got yourself two lovely Zaps.

I'm going to be ordering more stash jars soon. I really liked the blue glass jars I got, but I need a bigger one. This stuff isn't very expensive and you don't have to order in quantity. This is the site I ordered from:

http://www.specialtybottle.com/index.asp

I bought some 1/2 oz. tin containers for kief, some 1 oz. dropper bottles for when I finally make tincture, and some blue small jars, but they have all kinds of sizes, styles, etc. I had originally hoped to find a plastic bottle long enough to fit my glass stems here, but they don't seem to have one that is right for what I want. I'm still looking though.