Rick
Zapman
Damn, that sure is some nice looking wood out there! Aero18, as I recall, I went back and checked your request a couple times. It is close to MoeOnTheMoons. It is also very nice but not in the class that seems to be desired by many. I do have more very trippy stuff if a friend wants yours or something. I cannot start swapping out this for that or nobody will be happy. I think yours actually is very nice, even though it does not have the "ripples". I don't know what else to call them but they are electric. Change the angle you look at them and they change.
Seriously, my bad for being so unclear or whatever about Primos. From here on, just make a comment when you order that you want something special or however you describe it and we will do what we can.
Good wood is a good thing. Use it while you can.
From an old man
Seriously, my bad for being so unclear or whatever about Primos. From here on, just make a comment when you order that you want something special or however you describe it and we will do what we can.
Good wood is a good thing. Use it while you can.
From an old man
mnmlh
Well-Known Member
So, I ordered up a bunch of stuff over the past few days. I got a 100ml EHLE from EDIT and the appropriately sized silicon tubing from usplastic.com. I sourced a few adapters at a local head shop, so I will make it over there for a test fitting once the tubing gets here. To contain and protect all this stuff I picked up a hard camera case on Amazon for $13.99 http://tinyurl.com/yhhs2pc which will look something like this when open.
I should be able to make a nice space for the EHLE and my MZ, plus power adapter.
Then I got a perfectly sized wooden box that I am going to divide sections inside for lots of other related accessories. Getting organized over here.
I should be able to make a nice space for the EHLE and my MZ, plus power adapter.
Then I got a perfectly sized wooden box that I am going to divide sections inside for lots of other related accessories. Getting organized over here.
aero18
vaporist
I do too. It looks nice and I like it. Actually-I absolutely love it.Rick said:
I vaped out of it for the first time a couple of hours ago. It is definitely my favorite piece in my collection! It is my go-to-vape from now on.
A million thanks to you, Rick! Cheers! And I tip my MZ to all my fellow Zappers too.
Off to my third coat of the aromatic butter....
EDIT: Do this you Zappers: Take a draw and look inside of the vapor tube with a light! The vapor looks like a nebula! Especially cool to observe blazed.
So I got mine yesterday and I absolutely LOVE IT!!!! Its sexy as hell and super efficient. I am having an issue or 2 though and Id like to find out from some "long term" owners how they've managed to deal with them successfully.
1- Draws/hits - At times,it can be VERY HARD to hit/draw from,especially with finely ground materials. Ive found that using my cheapo $3 plastic grinder from VapeWorld works best at giving me a good size grind. The aerospace & space case are way too fine. Yes,I have bongs,but NO I DO NOT want to use them everytime I use my MZ,so please dont even bother suggesting that,this is for handheld usage only...I have plenty of other bong vapes.
2- Material shooting all over the place/me when I attempt to blow out my stems - Seems like everytime I blow out my duff plug I get a shower of ABV. Anybody have any tips/tricks to try? Ive tried Lwiens method of a shot glass...that had to the worst one yet,it was like an ABV volcano!!! As of right now,Im using a slider ziplock to blow into and still have a hard time not getting ABV all over me when the plug finally shoots out. I really dont wanna just dump it in the trash,but if I keep getting ABV showers,Im gonna have to.
3- Polishing/waxing - When is the best time to do this?? When the units warm? Or should I unplug it and let it cool a bit to wax/polish it? Has anybody tried a power tool for polishing/buffing? Like a Dremel with the buff wheels?? I have one and the hand tool attachment and Id like to try to put a nice almost mirror finish on my zap. If anybody can gimme a reason NOT to....feel free,if not I might tackle this today or tomorrow.
4- Stems - Would it be possible to get ones with a larger bowl area?? This one seems a bit small. I know its part of the efficiency thing,but I think if it was just a bit taller/wider it would get me a bit higher off just a lil more herb and the draws might be a bit easier.
1- Draws/hits - At times,it can be VERY HARD to hit/draw from,especially with finely ground materials. Ive found that using my cheapo $3 plastic grinder from VapeWorld works best at giving me a good size grind. The aerospace & space case are way too fine. Yes,I have bongs,but NO I DO NOT want to use them everytime I use my MZ,so please dont even bother suggesting that,this is for handheld usage only...I have plenty of other bong vapes.
2- Material shooting all over the place/me when I attempt to blow out my stems - Seems like everytime I blow out my duff plug I get a shower of ABV. Anybody have any tips/tricks to try? Ive tried Lwiens method of a shot glass...that had to the worst one yet,it was like an ABV volcano!!! As of right now,Im using a slider ziplock to blow into and still have a hard time not getting ABV all over me when the plug finally shoots out. I really dont wanna just dump it in the trash,but if I keep getting ABV showers,Im gonna have to.
3- Polishing/waxing - When is the best time to do this?? When the units warm? Or should I unplug it and let it cool a bit to wax/polish it? Has anybody tried a power tool for polishing/buffing? Like a Dremel with the buff wheels?? I have one and the hand tool attachment and Id like to try to put a nice almost mirror finish on my zap. If anybody can gimme a reason NOT to....feel free,if not I might tackle this today or tomorrow.
4- Stems - Would it be possible to get ones with a larger bowl area?? This one seems a bit small. I know its part of the efficiency thing,but I think if it was just a bit taller/wider it would get me a bit higher off just a lil more herb and the draws might be a bit easier.
Rick
Zapman
I would think you might get more answers on the AZ/MZ thread than this new one.
All I will say is we must pack tighter than most as our ABV comes out as a plug most of the time. You can pack a load of something ground the consistency course ground pepper a bit more than the real fine grind/almost powder grind. The slightly tighter load will slow the air down and make for big vapor pulls and will come out more like a plug when used up. If the plug does not want to blow out, take another pull or two to get all the sticky stuff out, then blow again.
That technique with 1/2 to 3/4 tip full will give 3-5 good pulls. The vapor stem tip does not need to be bigger. That is what some people have wanted since we started. If you want big massive hits, a different type vape may be more desireable for that use.
Polish/wax should be done by hand as per our instructions. A machine is not needed. Just give it a good hand job every so often.
We blow ABV in a small bottle with a narrow neck. Hold hand or fingers around bottle neck to seal when blowing duff out.
All I will say is we must pack tighter than most as our ABV comes out as a plug most of the time. You can pack a load of something ground the consistency course ground pepper a bit more than the real fine grind/almost powder grind. The slightly tighter load will slow the air down and make for big vapor pulls and will come out more like a plug when used up. If the plug does not want to blow out, take another pull or two to get all the sticky stuff out, then blow again.
That technique with 1/2 to 3/4 tip full will give 3-5 good pulls. The vapor stem tip does not need to be bigger. That is what some people have wanted since we started. If you want big massive hits, a different type vape may be more desireable for that use.
Polish/wax should be done by hand as per our instructions. A machine is not needed. Just give it a good hand job every so often.
We blow ABV in a small bottle with a narrow neck. Hold hand or fingers around bottle neck to seal when blowing duff out.
lwien
Well-Known Member
FEAR420 said:
For the record, I NEVER suggested blowing out your stems in a shot glass. I did that once and got a facefull of ABV too. lol
I DID suggest using a shot glass and scissors for cutting up your bud though.
If you can find those little draw string bags like what comes with the PD, they are perfect for this job.
FAWK!!!! I NEED to stop reading the boards when Im fucking vaked...lwien said:FEAR420 said:
For the record, I NEVER suggested blowing out your stems in a shot glass. I did that once and got a facefull of ABV too. lol
I DID suggest using a shot glass and scissors for cutting up your bud though.
If you can find those little draw string bags like what comes with the PD, they are perfect for this job.
See,I was thinking the shot glass would work cuz I can cover it with my hand and blow into it nicely....Yeah all it took was ONE LITTLE OPENING and the ABV shower was on & flowing!! I swear to god its like it found anyway out & into my eyes it could!
AHHHHHHHHH IT BURNS!!!!!
StickyShisha2
Well-Known Member
i asked my kid what would happen if he blew into the straw of his juice box.lwien said:
i thought it was funny, the wife, not so much.
AGBeer
Lost in Thought
Im there with you Fear. I somewhere read (or interpreted) the shotglass blowage method as well. We must have both had a seurreal bullshit vaked togetherness moment when reading the forums. 
As far as the draw goes, I think that I have become comfortable with the 'mouth suck, then inhale' kind of draws. I usually have 6-8 or so small draws as opposed to gassing myself by trying to take one long ass draw that winds me and tends to give less vapor due to the cooling of the HE on the long draw.
Make sense? I made a small video using this tech and my second hit seemed to be a big and juicy one. I can post it if you dont know what Im talking about.
As far as the draw goes, I think that I have become comfortable with the 'mouth suck, then inhale' kind of draws. I usually have 6-8 or so small draws as opposed to gassing myself by trying to take one long ass draw that winds me and tends to give less vapor due to the cooling of the HE on the long draw.
Make sense? I made a small video using this tech and my second hit seemed to be a big and juicy one. I can post it if you dont know what Im talking about.
DevoTheStrange
Ia! Ia! Vapor Fthagn!
They have bottles at hobby lobby you can use. Little plastic ones. The one I got has an opening just a bit bigger than the OD of the stems. Picked up two, one too blow ABV. and a second one too throw the stem itself in when i clean with ISO. Similar too the purple bottle that comes with the PD.
I used too use a little bag like lwein says... but i go everywhere and save my ABV where ever I go so the bag was actually not good for this. The bag does not seal as well as I needed and I was leaving piles of ABV everywhere once the bag got over 1/3rd full. Had too make sure I stored the bag rolled up. Sucks sticking your hand into a pocket and not feel just a bag, get a hand full of ABV.
if the draw is too tight, you might wanna try not packing it so tight. Have you used the method of using the stem in your mouth suck up the herb and when you release your suction only pack in what hasn't fallen out of the tip. that seems too put in the right amount of herb for me. I don't grind my herb too finely. If it is powder it will pack too tight. I usually want a tiny bit of fluffiness too it.
I used too use a little bag like lwein says... but i go everywhere and save my ABV where ever I go so the bag was actually not good for this. The bag does not seal as well as I needed and I was leaving piles of ABV everywhere once the bag got over 1/3rd full. Had too make sure I stored the bag rolled up. Sucks sticking your hand into a pocket and not feel just a bag, get a hand full of ABV.
if the draw is too tight, you might wanna try not packing it so tight. Have you used the method of using the stem in your mouth suck up the herb and when you release your suction only pack in what hasn't fallen out of the tip. that seems too put in the right amount of herb for me. I don't grind my herb too finely. If it is powder it will pack too tight. I usually want a tiny bit of fluffiness too it.
Yes,please do! I see people talking about all these draw methods,but unless you actually see it,it just doesnt make much sense IMO.AGBeer said:Im there with you Fear. I somewhere read (or interpreted) the shotglass blowage method as well. We must have both had a seurreal bullshit vaked togetherness moment when reading the forums.
As far as the draw goes, I think that I have become comfortable with the 'mouth suck, then inhale' kind of draws. I usually have 6-8 or so small draws as opposed to gassing myself by trying to take one long ass draw that winds me and tends to give less vapor due to the cooling of the HE on the long draw.
Make sense? I made a small video using this tech and my second hit seemed to be a big and juicy one. I can post it if you dont know what Im talking about.
IAmKrazy2
Darth Vapor
Probably should be in MZ thread but....
-Wax when hot works best, use a power buffer if you want but not really needed
-use that spacecase, it will have a finer and more useful grind then that plastic piece of shit IMO. If you pack slightly smaller/lighter bowls there will be less draw resistance. Keep your stems clean too, it helps a lot.
-If you want a bigger bowl your missing the point, pack two or three, and use accordingly.
-Wax when hot works best, use a power buffer if you want but not really needed
-use that spacecase, it will have a finer and more useful grind then that plastic piece of shit IMO. If you pack slightly smaller/lighter bowls there will be less draw resistance. Keep your stems clean too, it helps a lot.
-If you want a bigger bowl your missing the point, pack two or three, and use accordingly.
mnmlh
Well-Known Member
Here's a little method I caught on to yesterday. If you put the stem up to the middle of your tightly sealed lips to take a fully sealed off draw, just drag it to the side of your mouth, while keeping pressure around the stem to easily control how much air is being mixed with the vapor. You can sort of jerk it to get a similar effect to a carb. Being that I don't like to mix a solid stream of air with the vapor when I inhale, and found it too difficult to create a seal and then relax my lips over and over again. This lets my lip muscles stay tense, and I can really tell how much air I am mixing better than the loose lips method. Then for the final last bit of inhalation, I pull in through my nose. Exhale forcefully to get more THC pushed through the upper walls of the lungs.
DevoTheStrange
Ia! Ia! Vapor Fthagn!
I think the problem Fear is having is the grind is too fine.IAmKrazy2 said:
I would say put your herb through the grinder once.. don't over do it.
Also Fear... Don't lip lock onto the stem.. that can make it feel like your head is going too cave in on a tight draw. allow some air too make its way in past you lips.
Happycamper
Sweet Dreams Babycakes
I agree Devo. It can get so fine that just no air can get through, well, you really need to draw on it like a thick milkshake in those moments.
Just to clarify,I dont want a bigger bowl so I can get obliterated...Im talking maybe one more hit in the stem bigger. It would also help to make draws a lil bit easier as you'd be able to pack the same amount & have more room for airflow....so,what,maybe 1-2MM bigger/wider...Im not too good with tiny measurements.
And yeah,I was going to throw this in the MZ thread,but theres been a huge influx of new MZ owners lately according to Rick and Im sure Im not the only one having these "issues",so I decided a fresh thread would make everybodies life easier in the long run.
AGBeer.....that is PERFECT!!!! I was doing that at one point,and said to myself...shit,I feel like Im drinking an uber thick white castle/wendies milkshake(happycamper),this cant be right! So I went back to the straight lung draws...was getting some nice hits but also a slight headache from pulling so damn hard.
And yeah,I was going to throw this in the MZ thread,but theres been a huge influx of new MZ owners lately according to Rick and Im sure Im not the only one having these "issues",so I decided a fresh thread would make everybodies life easier in the long run.
AGBeer.....that is PERFECT!!!! I was doing that at one point,and said to myself...shit,I feel like Im drinking an uber thick white castle/wendies milkshake(happycamper),this cant be right! So I went back to the straight lung draws...was getting some nice hits but also a slight headache from pulling so damn hard.
DevoTheStrange
Ia! Ia! Vapor Fthagn!
I think a bigger stem would lose the efficiency and effectiveness of the vape. I agree with krazy.... Just load more than one stem. thats why you have multiple stems.
Ive been doing 6 stems full to get fully VAKED. 3 stems @ full to get my morning wake & vake on. Still way less that I would use with my other vapes besides of course the LB & VG...those bowls are also really small & efficient.DevoTheStrange said:
And of course,thanks for all the info guys!!!! Especially you Rick! Its great to see the manu's being involved in the community.
DevoTheStrange
Ia! Ia! Vapor Fthagn!
then pack it 2/3rds full if you are looking for a stronger effect, with less tubes... im sure it will give you the desired effect you are looking for. Or grind it not so fine, and do three full tubes instead of 6 half full tubesFEAR420 said:
you will find the fuller the bowl the more effective and satisfying the hits.
I think its kind of silly too ask for a bigger bowl if you are only using half of it.
and as far as the new thread goes... rules state not too start a new thread when there is already an established thread. Mods will eventually move thread. Not saying that too come down on you, just saying.
now if thread was about just compiling ticks and trips for the Myrtlezap then it more than likely will stay where it is... this thread is asking a question about the MZ not compiling tips and tricks, this would done better in ASK FC.
if you want one for new "MZ Tips and Tricks", start one in the Vaporizer Discussion one that way. And the MZ page is only 40 pages.. not that hard too make it through yet.
Id most certainly like to see it go that way...but for now its just getting these issues sorted. Although,like I said,with the influx of owners new to this style of vape,these issues are more likely to pop up with new users. So who knows,maybe the higher powers will deem it useful or helpful and decide not to merge it....wishful thinking thoDevoTheStrange said: