Aromazap/Myrtlezap/CeramicRockZap

[finch]

Was curious about the discussion of charring and found the following information on it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrolysis

I would imagine each piece of wood reacts a bit differently to continuous exposure to heat. Pine is going to char fairly quickly because it has so much tar and a weak cell structure. Sugar maple on the other hand should take much longer to char if at all. Woods used for smoking meat should be safe. Some aromatic woods should probably be avoided.

Does the application of bee's wax extend the time it takes to char the wood? It sure soaks into the wood around the heat exchanger.

It there a particular type of wood that has not experienced loosening of the heat exchanger?

oh wow this is news. I just checked my Zap and it does seem to sound loose inside. Should I be worried about this? How do I fix this, new zap? I really like this vape so I doubt I'll stop using it, but this makes me stop and think a little bit, I dont' know if makers of this type of vape were familiar with this charring

 

[momofthegoons]

Guys, I think you are getting a little paranoid about this. If you read the threads for the log vapes, this has come up. It even has it's own thread:

http://www.fuckcombustion.com/viewtopic.php?id=3672

After time, the heat from the heat port would obviously burn into the wood. If this, or age, creates looseness, Rick sells a kit to tighten it up on his website.

 

[finch]

ya momofthegoons is prob right, we are getting kinda paranoid, guess it comes from our pasttime

Does anyone know what is in the tight kit? I'm not too good at fixing things, am not a handyman, and just want to make sure I can fix this myself

 

[Rick]

Ya Mom, it is kind of funny. Normally this kind of sidetracking would be caught by a mod and directed to the charring of all log vape thread where the subject was thoroughly covered.
Maybe they have been busy with other stuff.
Talk about charring over there folks as it affects all log vapes. I participated in that discussion, expressing my views thoroughly as did many others.
In short, if you want a wood log vape, a small amount of charring is inevitable over time. You do not suck fumes other than the ones you intend to suck from our product.
I have to fight my sarcasm here but would you rather have plastic? We actually had a customer copy us a long while back with plastic....the Inavape...........

The tite kit is a couple extra 1" internal retaining rings with the ends ground back a bit to fit the shrunken with time heatport hole in the wood a bit easier. Also a 3/4" copper coupling to tighten it all down with. The extra ring(s) over the original grab non charred wood to keep the heatport tight.

Also, for those log vape owners that say "no charring on mine", you cannot make that statement accurately without removing the heatport assembly and looking at the entire bored hole.

 

[Engraver]

Just Ordered. Primarily based on this forum. It was between the SSV, PD, and The Solstice Special. Based on Ricks actions on this forum and the ship time, I went with this one. Not saying Tom of PD's actions were any different I just didn't like the 4-5 week wait time. It looks like both fellows/Companies are 1'st rate ethical stand-up operators and could/would have gone with either one based on that alone. In any event, I just discovered this process (Vaping) this week (at it for 35+ years) and can't wait to get it as the lightbulb method (I didn't believe it and just couldn't wait to try it) is getting old and I already broke 1. I do like the enhanced smokeless taste and it just feels cleaner. I would have also gone with the SSV from what I've read, but I really liked the efficiency of the PD's and MZ's that everyone talks about. Have a nice day everyone and thank you all for your comments here that allowed me to make an informative decision.

Kevin/NY

 

[Rick]

Thanks for the order Engraver.
Kevin ordered a 13.5 to go with his Zap(dark Myrtle) then Emailed and asked if it(13.5) was needed. I'll answer him and all here by saying I do not think it is needed, period. We always pull good vapor from every unit that goes out with the standard 12 volt power. So we will be putting a surprise in Kevins order to make up for the 13.5 he does not need since that was his request.
Thanks again for taking the Zap leap Kevin.
All Zaps ordered before yesterday about noon Pacific time shipped yesterday for a Friday arrival. Next batch out Saturday for a Monday arrival.

 

[Engraver]

Awsome - Thanks Rick!

Kevin

 

[EonBlue]

Pulled the trigger on one of these bad boys today, can't wait!

 

[JDSupreme]

Pulled the trigger on one of these bad boys today, can't wait!

Great call!! Can't say enough good things about this company!!

 

[nerae]

Pulled the trigger on one of these bad boys today, can't wait!

I ordered mine last night! Congrats to us both

 

[CuttyBuddy]

Just Ordered. Primarily based on this forum. It was between the SSV, PD, and The Solstice Special. Based on Ricks actions on this forum and the ship time, I went with this one. Not saying Tom of PD's actions were any different I just didn't like the 4-5 week wait time. It looks like both fellows/Companies are 1'st rate ethical stand-up operators and could/would have gone with either one based on that alone. In any event, I just discovered this process (Vaping) this week (at it for 35+ years) and can't wait to get it as the lightbulb method (I didn't believe it and just couldn't wait to try it) is getting old and I already broke 1. I do like the enhanced smokeless taste and it just feels cleaner. I would have also gone with the SSV from what I've read, but I really liked the efficiency of the PD's and MZ's that everyone talks about. Have a nice day everyone and thank you all for your comments here that allowed me to make an informative decision.

Kevin/NY

Hey man, you made a great choice. I own an SSV and 2 Zaps. You'll be very happy. If you want superior efficiency and want to save money I highly recommend a 1-2 break off MAry Jane THEN start rocking the Zap. It will blow you away how ripped you get. I've cut my intake down AT LEAST HALF with this unit. Even when my SSV was my go to unit I was still spending too much. Now a gram can last more than 3 DAYS. That's awesome.

And on the voltage note. My cherry Zap is almost finished it's burnout period and the AVB is certainly getting a bit darker. Not sure if I like that better but hey I've already come up with the unplug method if I need less heat. 13.5v would certainly be overkill imo

 

[SmokingElectricity]

miss my zap already...

see you soon lil buddy

 

[Engraver]

I probably do a g per day with my 1-hitter so really looking forward to the savings and cleaner benefits. I typically only partake to relax and allow me to sleep with my pain issues and hardly ever "party" anymore. Since I discovered this method - I have not "smoked" since. The way I figure it...according to the .025g fill up rule ...that would mean 40 brass tips compared to a few 1-hits per day at my rate of consumption. If I did the same that I do now with the MZ...according to what I've read - I'd probably be in a stupor of some sort so I'm really looking forward to the efficiency. I'm hoping to at least triple my useage time with this method with the same amount as used before. Oh and did I mention that the other benefits that go along with "Vaping" are not too shabby either. Rather enjoying them again as it is different...Kind of reminds me of the feeling when I started 35 years ago. It's NEW all over again and I think I like it.

As with everyone who is waitig for theirs, I can't wait for it to arrive so I can chuck this lightbulb. Even that kicks my butt but assume its pretty inefficient and the ABV is more on the brown/black side due to lack of heat control(lighter). It's all good tho. I don't seem to be able to get to sleep as easily tho as when smoked. Might have to combine the smoking & vaping for a sleep and relaxation aid. Either way - It all works out in the End.



Kevin

 

[JDSupreme]

I probably do a g per day with my 1-hitter so really looking forward to the savings and cleaner benefits. I typically only partake to relax and allow me to sleep with my pain issues and hardly ever "party" anymore. Since I discovered this method - I have not "smoked" since. The way I figure it...according to the .025g fill up rule ...that would mean 40 brass tips compared to a few 1-hits per day at my rate of consumption. If I did the same that I do now with the MZ...according to what I've read - I'd probably be in a stupor of some sort so I'm really looking forward to the efficiency. I'm hoping to at least triple my useage time with this method with the same amount as used before. Oh and did I mention that the other benefits that go along with "Vaping" are not too shabby either. Rather enjoying them again as it is different...Kind of reminds me of the feeling when I started 35 years ago. It's NEW all over again and I think I like it.

As with everyone who is waitig for theirs, I can't wait for it to arrive so I can chuck this lightbulb. Even that kicks my butt but assume its pretty inefficient and the ABV is more on the brown/black side due to lack of heat control(lighter). It's all good tho. I don't seem to be able to get to sleep as easily tho as when smoked. Might have to combine the smoking & vaping for a sleep and relaxation aid. Either way - It all works out in the End.



Kevin

A light bulb to a zap?!?!? That's the definition of upgrading your setup! you will love it!!!

 

[fylgja]

Got my MZ today and I have to say the only problem I have had with it is I couldn't wait until Christmas to open it. It's an amazing little machine, and a beautiful piece of art. I'm a very pleased customer. I'm also impressed by the shipping speed. I posted on this thread the day I ordered it, and less then a week later it's here! It was also packed really well with bubble wrap and lots of those mooshy styrofoam things.
Oh, and I really like the lavendar ZAPolish. It smells pretty and may even work great on my LB. Though I'm afraid the LB will get a lot less usage. The MZ has the perfect temperature for me. I realize now the LB was too hot for my lungs because I was coughing up a lung any time I used it. The MZ doesn't irritate my airways at all. It's so smooth.
It is also my first plug-in type vape. I've only ever used a MFLB and a VG before, so I can't compare it to any other "floor models." I just know it's even better then I expected, and it does what it's supposed to.

 

[momofthegoons]

Another happy Zaphead! I've always been amazed at Rick's turnaround time too. And I know from experience that Rick wants the customer happy (and he knows how we're like kids at Christmas once we order) so he gets them to you as quick as humanly possible. Hope all you new Zapolinas and Zapolinos are going to post some pics of your Zaps. I do love my Zap porn.

 

[Rick]

fylgja
Thanks for the words on your MZ experience. Glad you are happy with your amazing little machine.
Just a quick note that we missed a good amount of work yesterday as the power was out long enough to make us change our plans for the day. We are still on track for a week from order to delivery though.
Next batch of Zaps out will arrive Wednesday(yours will be in that batch Kevin). We thought we could make that happen Monday but it did not work. Misc stuff and a repair will go out today for a Monday arrival but no Zap orders.

 

[Ed's TnT]

How bout these beauties right here, Rick got me this freakn amazing WalnutZap for my cuz out in TX., he has never vaped, so am excited to turn him onto it the end of the month, going out there for a full on slaughter on water foul! I gave my MyrtleBurlZap to my photographer, who fell in love with it, he had previously never vaped and now he has quit combusting all together, well he is tough on shit so the MahoeZap is no more, got this sweet Cherry to replace the myrtle.

These two are kinda like ebony and ivory!

Rick has done a hellova job for me and I appreciate all of it!

 

[momofthegoons]

Ed, that walnut Zap is the shit! Beautiful, as is the cherry. Gotta love that wood!

 

[fylgja]

My husband and I are both definitely zapheads now. lol We had a fun night. And my husband hated vaping before. He insisted smoking was better. Now he doesn't even want to look at a lighter again. I'm also amazed that there is absolutely no smell. I don't have to be paranoid someone will smell smoke on me or in my house.

 

[Engraver]

Rick, I'm just happy it will be here before Christmas.

Ed, Nice tubes too!

Congrats on receiving/breaking it in fylgja.

Now...Back to my light bulb and some old-school Pink Floyd!

 

[SmokingElectricity]

My husband and I are both definitely zapheads now. lol We had a fun night. And my husband hated vaping before. He insisted smoking was better. Now he doesn't even want to look at a lighter again. I'm also amazed that there is absolutely no smell. I don't have to be paranoid someone will smell smoke on me or in my house.

Thats one of the beauties of vaporization. The smell dispurses quickly. I live in an apartment and was always worried my neighbors would complain about the smell. Now i don't have that issue.

 

[Ed's TnT]

Ed, that walnut Zap is the shit! Beautiful, as is the cherry. Gotta love that wood!

I agree Mom, the walnut is gonna make for a great gift!

 

[Engraver]

I've just finished reading all 135 pages of this thread...and all I can say is...I am glad I placed my order. Just the attitude and level of customer service provided and attested to shows an interest in the customer by these folks that you typically don't find anywhere anymore. It's refreshing to see that there are still Business's/Business Owners who try and continually do the right thing and many times go above and beyond what is required to keep their customers happy. My hat is off to you guys-Great Job! I still hope I do NOT need to use your Customer Service, but glad to know it's there if I need it.

Note: This post in no way implies that other vendors here do not offer the same or a similar level of service to it's customer base. I haven't ordered, owned their products, or read enough of their threads to form an opinion.

 

[fylgja]

Had some friends over for the weekend and they loved it. My hubbys friend is hoping his wife will let him get one too. I'll put in a good word about it to her.