are OGB showerhead downstems equal or as good as Alex K showerhead downstems?

budz and bhombs

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im going to be buying 1 of them for my new tube soon, and im gonna get a perc-less beaker tube, a zob, a HVY, or a MGW.. im just wondering from the ppl who have got to try both or whatever, if they think OGB's showerhead DS's are just as good function wise or do the Alex K DS's function a lot better?!
 
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budz and bhombs

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Really?! Nothing at all guys?? no opinions on the question...? i want to start buying my glass parts from OGB off ioffer but if the alex k showerhead ds is REALLY that much better, if get that 1 im guessing. im just wondering how the 2 compare. ive heard NOTHING but good things about BOTH, im just wondering if they hit pretty similar or is there a difference or even a few? w either 1 of the showerhead ds's, the ash, etc. snapped through the slide(bowl) wont get all stuck up in the downstem will it?! i DEF dont want that, to me it LOOKS like and w my experience w other showerheads(cheap/cheaper ones w slimmer slits :-/ ), the resin, ash gets caught up in the downstems ALL the time! i dont want to have to take it out and have to empty ash and ish outta my downstem. but like i said, ive ONLY heard good things about BOTH, i just want to know what ppl think that have gotten the chance to use or that have both! im planning on purchasing a new tube for my bday, if u havent seen it mentioned in other posts, hah, and ive got it down to 3.. its soooo hard to FINALLY JUST BREAK DOWN AND CHOOSE! i want to MAKE SURE ILL BE HAPPY w my purchase and most importantly the functionality of my new piece! so far, its between a Zob 14in., a HVY clear beaker 16in., and a Manifest(MGW) 14 in. then a OGB showerhead DS MOST LIKELY, unless i get told or convinced the alex k is THAT MUCH BETTER! well see. ANNNYONE, please give me your :2c:... id GRREATLY appreciate it! :D

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photobooth

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the ash, etc. snapped through the slide(bowl) wont get all stuck up in the downstem will it?! i DEF dont want that, to me it LOOKS like and w my experience w other showerheads(cheap/cheaper ones w slimmer slits :-/ ), the resin, ash gets caught up in the downstems ALL the time! i dont want to have to take it out and have to empty ash and ish outta my downstem.

Well considering this is a forum dedicated to fucking combustion, probably not the best place to ask about downstems for combusting (ash+resin = :mental:). The majority of our set-ups are dedicated for vaporizing. That being said, I'm sure most showerhead downstems are very similar in function. I would personally recommend a tube and downstem from http://ssfgglass.com/shop/
 
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breathe

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Good choice with the whole smaller beaker/shower head combo. IMO that combo is super under appreciated and often overlooked in lieu of "MAD PERCZ BRO!!!1111!!!11!1". With it you'll be getting an awesome combustion and vaping piece that will be super adaptable to your needs.

If you're super concerned about ash chillin in the downstem, I would say your options are getting a carbon filter, getting an ash catcher, using a screened or semi-screened bowl or just getting used to it. Any showerhead you buy will have problems with keeping at least some of the shit you snap down there in the perc. Alex K's do a pretty good job with the size of there slits, but no down stem is immune. I really can't comment on the OGB showerheads, but their customer service is awesome so you could probably email them and ask your questions directly.

Also, not sure if this fits the bill, but there is a nice cheap HVY beaker in the classifieds right now that comes with a couple of downstems. You could get that and then decide what your opinion would be on a showerhead. I've had that style HVY beaker before they are nice and simple and well made. The joint is a little peculiar, but sorta nice because it's so low profile and works well.

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/hvy-beaker-with-2-downstems-50-shipped.16995/

Whatever you decide best of luck! sorry about the lack of responses, but like @photobooth said it's not exactly surprising given where we are :)
 

budz and bhombs

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Good choice with the whole smaller beaker/shower head combo. IMO that combo is super under appreciated and often overlooked in lieu of "MAD PERCZ BRO!!!1111!!!11!1". With it you'll be getting an awesome combustion and vaping piece that will be super adaptable to your needs.

If you're super concerned about ash chillin in the downstem, I would say your options are getting a carbon filter, getting an ash catcher, using a screened or semi-screened bowl or just getting used to it. Any showerhead you buy will have problems with keeping at least some of the shit you snap down there in the perc. Alex K's do a pretty good job with the size of there slits, but no down stem is immune. I really can't comment on the OGB showerheads, but their customer service is awesome so you could probably email them and ask your questions directly.

Also, not sure if this fits the bill, but there is a nice cheap HVY beaker in the classifieds right now that comes with a couple of downstems. You could get that and then decide what your opinion would be on a showerhead. I've had that style HVY beaker before they are nice and simple and well made. The joint is a little peculiar, but sorta nice because it's so low profile and works well.

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/hvy-beaker-with-2-downstems-50-shipped.16995/

Whatever you decide best of luck! sorry about the lack of responses, but like @photobooth said it's not exactly surprising given where we are :)


yeah, i already talkd to that guy about his HVY. its just to small for my liking. i want a 14-16 inch beaker... not a 10 inch. im the 1 who got him to go down to $50 shipped bc i showed him brand new 1s that where nicer then his for 65$ plus shipping, he was originally gonna sell it for 75$ altogether! haha
but yeah, u got that right, about the beaker tubes w no percs w a nice DS showerhead setup, VERY UNDERATED! thats what im shootin for rather then a nice perc'd beaker! as u can tell, i like beaker styles hah but hey, thanks for being COOL about it, and answering at least part of my posts. its not like ppl DO NOT TALK ABOUT GLASS AT ALL or some sht on this site... if i have a question about somethin, im gonna ask it. SORRRY photobooth! :chill: :smug:

ps- and BTW, i 1st signed up for TC, guys were TOTAL assholes when i tried to ask ANYTHING! i just didnt like A LOT of the ppl i met. so i joined here. and im not gonna say i dont combust, and i will NEVER stop, but i ALSO vape! and i LOVE both! i dont see whats wrong w that... :shrug: Sorry...?!
 
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Frederick McGuire

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I think you're reading into @photobooth s post too much.

You specifically asked about how the downstem works for combustion.
I know a lot of peeps around here still combust, but primarily it tends to be vaporists around here...

I read your OP, and once you started asking about how the DS handles ash I knew I wouldn't be much help to ya...

I'm pretty sure photobooth was just explaining why you weren't getting responses...

I've owned an Alex-K downstem, and I don't really see the value...

For like $10 more you can get a sovereignty gridded downstem which hits a bit nicer IME.
Or for like $20 less you can get a OGB showerhead that is essentially the same thing...

I mean, there's not much going on in a showerhead DS, so I don't really see the point in paying for a brand name for one...

I actually find I get really nice performance out of my 11-hole punched downstem - I prefer it to the Alex k I had.

My punched hole and Sovereignty downstems also both have an opening at the end that would allow ash to fall through...
 
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budz and bhombs

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thanks for the info. but "if you have NO idea even tho uve had an alex k ds??" lol i was hoping ppl who DO still smoke, like you said some still do on here, would havw some answers... and you really dont think i know most u r vaporist?! lol i vape too, but i also snap bts. Funny bc EVERYONE ive talked to besides you, says to ABSOLUTELY get an alex k ds w the setup im purchasing, a beaker style tube w no percs in it. SO YES, the ds DOES make a HUGE difference. but like i said, thanks for the info. u did share, AND u say might as well get an OGB ds showerhead and pay 20$ less, guess what dude, THATS KINDA WHAT IM ASKING... hah thanks again. :tup: read Breathes 1st sentence Fredrick...
 
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grdwaste

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thanks for the info. but "if you have NO idea even tho uve had an alex k ds??" lol i was hoping ppl who DO still smoke, like you said some still do on here, would havw some answers... and you really dont think i know most u r vaporist?! lol i vape too, but i also snap bts. Funny bc EVERYONE ive talked to besides you, says to ABSOLUTELY get an alex k ds w the setup im purchasing, a beaker style tube w no percs in it. SO YES, the ds DOES make a HUGE difference. but like i said, thanks for the info. u did share, AND u say might as well get an OGB ds showerhead and pay 20$ less, guess what dude, THATS KINDA WHAT IM ASKING... hah thanks again. :tup: read Breathes 1st sentence Fredrick...
Go with the OGB. Same function and cheaper man! Also check out the rezblock forum and buy some cranberry extract for your beaker. 3 drops a day and your piece will build so much less resin. Every 3 days just run hot water through it and any left over resin will just fall off.
 

budz and bhombs

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wow! THANKS man! i appreciate it! ive been thinkin the samething after thinkin bout it, im just gonna grab a OGB DS and a 18mm glass on glass whip adapter?!(think thats what there called) from him. and funny thing is i just was browsing the other day and came across that rezblock forum. so the cranberry extract works nice too? where would i find this product and is there a brand name or do i simply just look for cranberry extract like in a grocery store?! thats an awesome thing to know! thank you! im def gonna be using it, hopefully ill find some. thanks again man for the info. :cheers: :science:

ps- although, unless u have owned 1 or know some1 that owns 1, u probably wouldnt know, but ive been looking at this MGW(Manifest) 16 inch beaker.

http://aqualabtechnologies.com/scie...ks/manifest-7-mm-clear-beaker-neon-green.html

and from what ive found, the downstem that comes in that MGW is a showerhead type and ive found a few ppl say its a nice diffused ds... im just not positive. if i end up getting this tube over my other 2 im stuck on, then ill just wait and see how there ds is then if it sucks, ill get a OGB showerhead! shoot, might anyways just to have a couple options! :D
 
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grdwaste

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wow! THANKS man! i appreciate it! ive been thinkin the samething after thinkin bout it, im just gonna grab a OGB DS and a 18mm glass on glass whip adapter?!(think thats what there called) from him. and funny thing is i just was browsing the other day and came across that rezblock forum. so the cranberry extract works nice too? where would i find this product and is there a brand name or do i simply just look for cranberry extract like in a grocery store?! thats an awesome thing to know! thank you! im def gonna be using it, hopefully ill find some. thanks again man for the info. :cheers: :science:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0011DL4AU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Best brand and it has to be alcohol free extract. Its about $10-15 cheaper on amazon

Look on the right side and buy it from one of the other sellers. On amazon Will be cheaper that way.
 

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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0011DL4AU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Best brand and it has to be alcohol free extract. Its about $10-15 cheaper on amazon

Look on the right side and buy it from one of the other sellers. On amazon Will be cheaper that way.
so this stuff wont effect the different tastes of my PHIREY budz?! hah but really, it doesnt change the herbs flavor or anything? i love the idea, im about to order atleast a bottle right now... and do u recommend getting the 1 u linked or will any alcohol free 1 do...? thanks again bud

ps= just wondering...
 
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grdwaste

Glass Psycho
so this stuff wont effect the different tastes of my PHIREY budz?! hah but really, it doesnt change the herbs flavor or anything? i love the idea, im about to order atleast a bottle right now... and do u recommend getting the 1 u linked or will any alcohol free 1 do...? thanks again bud

ps= just wondering...
That is the best one. Don't go off that brand man. And no it doesn't. Maybe a hint of cranberry the first two rips but its gone after that. I kid you not it will keep your glass crystal clear. Better than grunge off, rubbing alcohol, or any of that
 

budz and bhombs

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ok cool, i found the exact same bottle, 1 fluid ounce, for $10.86 SHIPPED! thats sounds great to me if its REALLY worth it like u say it is, and i totally believe you. and its awesome bc im gonna be getting one of those new tubes and id love to find a way like this to keep it like NEW! who doesnt LOVE new glass?! :mmmm:
 
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grdwaste

Glass Psycho
ok cool, i found the exact same bottle, 1 fluid ounce, for $10.86 SHIPPED! thats sounds great to me if its REALLY worth it like u say it is, and i totally believe you. and its awesome bc im gonna be getting one of those new tubes and id love to find a way like this to keep it like NEW! who doesnt LOVE new glass?! :mmmm:
Everyone loves that crystal clear look! :science:
 

Frederick McGuire

Aggressively Loungey
thanks for the info. but "if you have NO idea even tho uve had an alex k ds??" lol i was hoping ppl who DO still smoke, like you said some still do on here, would havw some answers... and you really dont think i know most u r vaporist?! lol i vape too, but i also snap bts. Funny bc EVERYONE ive talked to besides you, says to ABSOLUTELY get an alex k ds w the setup im purchasing, a beaker style tube w no percs in it. SO YES, the ds DOES make a HUGE difference. but like i said, thanks for the info. u did share, AND u say might as well get an OGB ds showerhead and pay 20$ less, guess what dude, THATS KINDA WHAT IM ASKING... hah thanks again. :tup: read Breathes 1st sentence Fredrick...
Well it's really hard for me to read the tone of this post but...
Sorry for trying to help?
 

budz and bhombs

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Well it's really hard for me to read the tone of this post but...
Sorry for trying to help?

why sorry?! i just found it hilarious you ACTUALLY own an alex k ds and you cant tell me how it is lol so u dont combust... so. u can still say whatcha think about it, LIKE YOU DID ANYWAYS. its whatever mang! already know from the other couple answers, that id just go w an OGB showerhead instead. Anyways, sorry for combusting?! :spliff: later dude
 
budz and bhombs,
Really?! Nothing at all guys?? no opinions on the question...? i want to start buying my glass parts from OGB off ioffer but if the alex k showerhead ds is REALLY that much better, if get that 1 im guessing. im just wondering how the 2 compare. ive heard NOTHING but good things about BOTH, im just wondering if they hit pretty similar or is there a difference or even a few? w either 1 of the showerhead ds's, the ash, etc. snapped through the slide(bowl) wont get all stuck up in the downstem will it?! i DEF dont want that, to me it LOOKS like and w my experience w other showerheads(cheap/cheaper ones w slimmer slits :-/ ), the resin, ash gets caught up in the downstems ALL the time! i dont want to have to take it out and have to empty ash and ish outta my downstem. but like i said, ive ONLY heard good things about BOTH, i just want to know what ppl think that have gotten the chance to use or that have both! im planning on purchasing a new tube for my bday, if u havent seen it mentioned in other posts, hah, and ive got it down to 3.. its soooo hard to FINALLY JUST BREAK DOWN AND CHOOSE! i want to MAKE SURE ILL BE HAPPY w my purchase and most importantly the functionality of my new piece! so far, its between a Zob 14in., a HVY clear beaker 16in., and a Manifest(MGW) 14 in. then a OGB showerhead DS MOST LIKELY, unless i get told or convinced the alex k is THAT MUCH BETTER! well see. ANNNYONE, please give me your :2c:... id GRREATLY appreciate it! :D
I have no idea what I just read.
 

budz and bhombs

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I have no idea what I just read.

plenty of other nice ppl already helped me out, if u havent noticed, so its all good. i dont know whats so hard to understand in that post but ok... do u not kno how to read?! or...? :shrug: smoke a bowl! :science: oooooh WAIT! i can tell ur 1 of those SUPER SNOBBY vaporists, if im understanding what i just read. VAPE a bowl! :tup: :chill:

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z9

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plenty of other nice ppl already helped me out, if u havent noticed, so its all good. i dont know whats so hard to understand in that post but ok... do u not kno how to read?! or...? :shrug: smoke a bowl! :science: oooooh WAIT! i can tell ur 1 of those SUPER SNOBBY vaporists, if im understanding what i just read. VAPE a bowl! :tup: :chill:

I'm a terrible writer, my posts are often unorganized and hard to follow but DAMN your posts take it to a new level. I'll speak for Mr. Gweilo and say that it has nothing to do with vaporizing or smoking, its the way you choose to write and present yourself on the forum.

Now I'm just basing my answer on the title. I've had a lot of different downstems, some were American made and others were imported. Cheap, expensive, lots of holes, only a few, high water level, low water level, carbon filters, diffuser beads, whatever - it doesn't matter. You're only going to get so much diffusion through a traditional beaker with downstem set-up.

If you want to spend $20 more for a name-brand downstem than go for it, there's going to be little difference besides build quality and origin. It all comes down to preference. Personally I'll choose OGB over some big name producer like Alex K for something generic like a downstem. Additionally I don't see any reason to buy a name brand beaker unless its 9mm thick glass or heady, there are so many other options that will have the same quality and offer more in the way of diffusion. If you can afford to buy a basic $150 beaker from ALT you can afford to buy a couple downstems to test out the differences. I mean you can buy imported glass for the same price as most downstems...

When you finally get tired of fucking around with downstems (because lets face it, everyone knows they're a pain) you should look into more functional glass with a fixed stem, you'll never turn back. I'm not saying pieces with downstems are bad, they're just less convenient to use and more likely to break.
 
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budz and bhombs

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dude, if u just want to be an ass then DONT EVEN FCKIN ANSWER ANYTHING! :mental: i dont give a flying F#$K if u posts on my thread or not. if u cant read it, 1st of all, go back to grade school, 2nd, DONT READ IT OR EVEN BOTHER POSTING ANYTHING! smh da fuq outta here! :goon: make u look all :freak: and then celebrate! :spliff: :smug: take a f@$kin :chill: pill dude! have a GRRRREAT 1! :wave:

ps- LIKE I SAID, i ALREADY got the answers from guys who arent pricks right off the bat as u can see. So i dont need ur bs info. anyhow so stfu and leave! ESP since u 2 cannot read. notice u 2 r the ONLY 1s who said ANYTHING! lol grdwaste already answered my ?s annnd more, along w a couple others givin me some info. so its obv. u 2. i suggest reading like dr suess books and go ahead and work ur way up from there! dont rush urself! u guys seem like u might be really slow learners... :D :science::spliff::science::spliff:

i HATE when ppl are just ASSHOLES for the hell of it! SMH

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z9

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Other people read these threads and some of them might have the similar questions about downstems. There are a couple good posts here, my hope was that one more opinion on the relative performance of downstems might make this train wreck of a thread just a little more helpful for someone else out there.

ps- and BTW, i 1st signed up for TC, guys were TOTAL assholes when i tried to ask ANYTHING! i just didnt like A LOT of the ppl i met. so i joined here.
dude, if u just want to be an ass then DONT EVEN FCKIN ANSWER ANYTHING! :mental: i dont give a flying F#$K if u posts on my thread or not.

Have you stopped to think that you might be the common denominator in this equation?
 

budz and bhombs

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go away dude, come to MY thread and just basically talk sht! get dafuq outta here! like i said, i dont need ur BS info, i ALREADY GOT GOOD info. from ppl who werent just total assholes w the FIRST thing they say.. like i said, u 2 WERE THE OOOOONNNNNNNLY 1s who HAD TO BITCH! i mean WHY?! if ur just gonna be like that, then just F@$KIN LEEEEEAVE! its that easy! JEEEEEEEZ! guess what?? its a forum.. ill ask WHATEVER F@%KIN ?s i WANT too if itll help me, take ur hate somewhere else. :cuss: not wanted here. and NO, im not the "common denominator" when youre basically the only piece of :shit: being so negative about me asking about something I WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT!! i dont care how stupid it sounds to u, notice how others were nice enough to jus answer and NOT be total asshats. if its that time of the month or u dont have anything nice to say, then dont say it at all! :disgust:

my ?s were already answered, and u just wanted to talk trash. AND YES! OTHERS MIGHT WANT TO KNOW THE SAAAAAAAAME exact thing i asked, yet im a dumbass "for the way i presented myself" lmfao your :2c: is not appreciated when u HAVE to talk sht 1st! rather not even post ANYTHING! y do even want to be part of "a train wreck of a thread?" bc u DAMN SURE ARENT MAKING IT ANNNNNNNY BETTER! I got all the info i needed so it served the purpose i MADE IT FOR FOR ME sooo... im GOOD! :D later hater! :wave: :peace:
 
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Roth

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go away dude, come to MY thread and just basically talk sht! get dafuq outta here! like i said, i dont need ur BS info, i ALREADY GOT GOOD info. from ppl who werent just total assholes w the FIRST thing they say.. like i said, u 2 WERE THE OOOOONNNNNNNLY 1s who HAD TO BITCH! i mean WHY?! if ur just gonna be like that, then just F@$KIN LEEEEEAVE! its that easy! JEEEEEEEZ! guess what?? its a forum.. ill ask WHATEVER F@%KIN ?s i WANT too if itll help me, take ur hate somewhere else. :cuss: not wanted here. and NO, im not the "common denominator" when youre basically the only piece of :shit: being so negative about me asking about something I WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT!! i dont care how stupid it sounds to u, notice how others were nice enough to jus answer and NOT be total asshats. if its that time of the month or u dont have anything nice to say, then dont say it at all! :disgust:

my ?s were already answered, and u just wanted to talk trash. AND YES! OTHERS MIGHT WANT TO KNOW THE SAAAAAAAAME exact thing i asked, yet im a dumbass "for the way i presented myself" lmfao your :2c: is not appreciated when u HAVE to talk sht 1st! rather not even post ANYTHING! y do even want to be part of "a train wreck of a thread?" bc u DAMN SURE ARENT MAKING IT ANNNNNNNY BETTER! I got all the info i needed so it served the purpose i MADE IT FOR FOR ME sooo... im GOOD! :D later hater! :wave: :peace:


Just so you know, it's not just the 2 people that posted that have issues with your "writing" style. Trying to comprehend what you write is a task. People do not need to "go back to grade school" simply because you are incapable in writing in a coherent manner.

You asked a question, were impatient, and then were quite rude to people that wanted to help you. You then continue to be rude to people in the thread, all the while aggravating the issue even more.

There is a plethora of helpful people and a wealth of info here. Try not to get banned, you might learn something.
 

budz and bhombs

DAB SPECIALIST/ POKER GRINDER
Just so you know, it's not just the 2 people that posted that have issues with your "writing" style. Trying to comprehend what you write is a task. People do not need to "go back to grade school" simply because you are incapable in writing in a coherent manner.

You asked a question, were impatient, and then were quite rude to people that wanted to help you. You then continue to be rude to people in the thread, all the while aggravating the issue even more.

There is a plethora of helpful people and a wealth of info here. Try not to get banned, you might learn something.

whatever man :peace: im over it :spliff: :smug:
 
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budz and bhombs

DAB SPECIALIST/ POKER GRINDER
Just so you know, it's not just the 2 people that posted that have issues with your "writing" style. Trying to comprehend what you write is a task. People do not need to "go back to grade school" simply because you are incapable in writing in a coherent manner.

You asked a question, were impatient, and then were quite rude to people that wanted to help you. You then continue to be rude to people in the thread, all the while aggravating the issue even more.

There is a plethora of helpful people and a wealth of info here. Try not to get banned, you might learn something.

lmfao! you guys are hilarious! SMH

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