Interesting. I have the duracore but I saw people here saying the thermacore works much better w/ the wand. I'll just spend a little more on a vhb and maybe a flare when it releases. Thx
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Roffa
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Pre-heat and be amazed.
jardri
Vapor Dreams
I did it and works better but it is too much of a hassle. It takes too long, a flame is like 1/3 of the time and works better. The Anvil definitely needs a more powerful induction heater in order to be really practical.
Dont misunderstand me, i still use it in some situations like when gaming so i dont have to occupy my hands and just let it heat in the wand until timeout.
David Root
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I read about caping a spare bowl for later. Where do the caps come from?
David
David
steve-climber-420
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This is the first time I'm seeing someone mention TMJ/TMD and vaporizer restriction, and it really hit me. I've been dealing with serious jaw pain for the last couple months, primarily using an Arizer Solo 2 and looking to replace with a vape that won't worsen my symptoms. I was about to pull the trigger on an Anvil purchase, but will definitely reconsider. Appreciate it! (but bummed)
Hey all, I got my Anvil about a week ago, and I'm absolutely loving it. Extremely consistent, same roast every time. Last weekend we had an unseasonably warm Saturday, so I decided to have a nice wake and bake on the patio. Ran it completely native with the regular mouthpiece, and I was really surprised how nice it felt to puff on rather than take huge pulls off of. I thought this kept vapor at a good temp; it was warm, but not unreasonably so.
I did have a question though and I'm hoping someone could offer advice. I'm having a hard time getting a solid 1HE off this thing, and was wondering if maybe there's a variable I haven't explored.
I have a Thermocore (full bowl), and I use it with a Wand. The the insert is placed far enough down that the air intakes are sitting just about even with the hole in the wand, maybe slightly above. I heat until second click. I also always heat with the bowl in the vape, as I tried the "preheating the oven" method and adding the cold bowl to it and got zero vapor so I gave up on that.
The intakes I've tested in every permutation, whether that's small holes only, large holes only, fully open, or large holes partially obscured. I don't have a preference yet for native use but for bubbler-use I try to run mostly or fully open.
So far no matter what, I can never get a full extraction off of of a single heatups. It always takes two generally, sometimes even 3.
Is there a technique for draw speed I'm not aware of? I don't really know how to quantify my pull strength but it feels somewhat in the middle? Usually on the first heat up, my bubbler rip lasts about 7-8 seconds before all the vapor disappears. It's usually here that I'll plop it on a Reload to check the roast and let the cooldown clicks happen...and my roast is always amber or lighter. I can always see some green bits left.
That isn't to say the pulls are weak, however. This thing hits HARD. I just kinda hoped the Anvil could be my one-and-doner, the one I could load up and cash out in a couple minutes. So having to reheat it 2-3 times kinda sucks, especially with how the thing just sucks all the juice out of the Wand after multiple heat ups haha.
Anyways, if you read this essay, I appreciate you. Hoping to get some sweet tips on getting faster extractions! I really do love this thing, I think maybe even more than my TM2 or Tempest. Just something about it I'm really digging.
Thanks folks!
I did have a question though and I'm hoping someone could offer advice. I'm having a hard time getting a solid 1HE off this thing, and was wondering if maybe there's a variable I haven't explored.
I have a Thermocore (full bowl), and I use it with a Wand. The the insert is placed far enough down that the air intakes are sitting just about even with the hole in the wand, maybe slightly above. I heat until second click. I also always heat with the bowl in the vape, as I tried the "preheating the oven" method and adding the cold bowl to it and got zero vapor so I gave up on that.
The intakes I've tested in every permutation, whether that's small holes only, large holes only, fully open, or large holes partially obscured. I don't have a preference yet for native use but for bubbler-use I try to run mostly or fully open.
So far no matter what, I can never get a full extraction off of of a single heatups. It always takes two generally, sometimes even 3.
Is there a technique for draw speed I'm not aware of? I don't really know how to quantify my pull strength but it feels somewhat in the middle? Usually on the first heat up, my bubbler rip lasts about 7-8 seconds before all the vapor disappears. It's usually here that I'll plop it on a Reload to check the roast and let the cooldown clicks happen...and my roast is always amber or lighter. I can always see some green bits left.
That isn't to say the pulls are weak, however. This thing hits HARD. I just kinda hoped the Anvil could be my one-and-doner, the one I could load up and cash out in a couple minutes. So having to reheat it 2-3 times kinda sucks, especially with how the thing just sucks all the juice out of the Wand after multiple heat ups haha.
Anyways, if you read this essay, I appreciate you. Hoping to get some sweet tips on getting faster extractions! I really do love this thing, I think maybe even more than my TM2 or Tempest. Just something about it I'm really digging.
Thanks folks!
You’ve gotta go past the second click by 30-40 seconds. Anvil won’t really be ready after the click if you’re heating it with the wand. You’ll need to restart it when it turns off on the first cycle.
Comfortably Numb
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Please dont do that....you have to heat past the click but add it a little at a time until you get there...
Heating past the click I hadn't actually considered though, so there's some truth there. But yeah I'll probably try just restarting the heating once the second click happens and then just count pulses of the lights...5 or 6 could be a good start, as they're roughly a second apart.
I'm very impressed with the thermocore after a while. Coupled with the XL bowl, extraction is really great and the bowl is hard to finish
... the power is still there, with the added bonus of longer retention, a longer session or even denser vapor.
MTL or DL, it sends me where i want to go, or even a little further. Can't wait to use it with the Forge.
... the power is still there, with the added bonus of longer retention, a longer session or even denser vapor.MTL or DL, it sends me where i want to go, or even a little further. Can't wait to use it with the Forge.
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SillyNotMe
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Have you tried it with a torch? It takes a lot of energy to load the lower copper band which is the key to the one hit extraction/ride the line experience. I don’t recall anyone claiming to RTL with a Wand.
David Root
Well-Known Member
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"preheating the oven" method and adding the cold bowl to it and got zero vapor so I gave up on that.
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This shows me you don't have enough heat.
Go past the click. Count 5, try it, then count 10...... Until you see what you want Take your time, get to know your tool.
David
"preheating the oven" method and adding the cold bowl to it and got zero vapor so I gave up on that.
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This shows me you don't have enough heat.
Go past the click. Count 5, try it, then count 10...... Until you see what you want Take your time, get to know your tool.
David
This was absolutely my issue! Thanks everyone who mentioned heating past the clicks on the wand.
Since Friday night I've messed around a bunch with timing. I found that setting the wand to 765F and just letting it time out gave me a perfect (for my tastes) one hit extraction. The clicks are a bit inconsistent, sometimes they'll happen before the light stops blinking and othertimes it's after...so using the wand timer instead has given me awesome results.
David Root
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I have an anvil coming thursday.
David
David
SillyNotMe
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It’s been two years with my Anvil. Roughly 12-16 uses per day. Two heat cycles per use. Less than 1g per day. Medical user. My only consumption device.
Here are some long term usage notes.
I’ve upgraded to the thermocore oven. Still using a half bowl and the XL mouthpiece. I really like the hang time the thermocore has added to my ritual if I want it.
One of the three o-rings on the condenser was replaced early on due to experimenting. They’ve held up fine from sorta-weekly ethanol soaks. I’m on my second screen. I was too rough on the first one. The o-ring on the heat shield is original. It’s stretched from fidgeting with it. I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve dropped the Anvil. On weekends I like scaring the neighbourhood crack enthusiasts with my mini lightsabre and terrifying torch.
Happy Anniversary to me and my Anvil.
Here are some long term usage notes.
I’ve upgraded to the thermocore oven. Still using a half bowl and the XL mouthpiece. I really like the hang time the thermocore has added to my ritual if I want it.
One of the three o-rings on the condenser was replaced early on due to experimenting. They’ve held up fine from sorta-weekly ethanol soaks. I’m on my second screen. I was too rough on the first one. The o-ring on the heat shield is original. It’s stretched from fidgeting with it. I’ve lost count of how many times I’ve dropped the Anvil. On weekends I like scaring the neighbourhood crack enthusiasts with my mini lightsabre and terrifying torch.
Happy Anniversary to me and my Anvil.
leanpubpackage
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Anyone else notice their thermocore oven threads sticking to the bowls more than the older ovens?
I don't have the other ovens to compare but I find my threads only stuck when I tried to preheat the oven without the bowl. I actually needed an allen wrench to take them apart because they thermal locked so tightly.
Generally though, I actually find my oven a little bit loose, where it takes next to no effort for the bowl to unthread. Its not a huge deal, especially since during use I'm not touching the bowl anyways other than to take it off.
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I've only had this thing for 2 weeks but man...it is passing the reach test with flying colors. I don't have many vapes in my collection (Lobo, TM2, Tempest, Anvil, Revolve 2, and Dynavap 21M), but man, I just can't stop using it. I think its because there's just nothing...annoying about it? Like it just works. I know exactly what to expect when I hit the thing, regardless of how hard or soft I pull, whether I'm using it in glass for huge rips or natively like a joint. Just plop it in the Wand, wait, enjoy. Easy.
Call me crazy but I actually kinda like the heat of native use on the base stem and xl mouthpiece. It sorta forces me to take smaller pulls and slow it down a bit.
This thing is sweet
Alligator427
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No problem on my side with the standard bowl as the XL bowl. I heat slowly (more or less 1min) and not too much (I like smooth vape). I am quiet happy with thermocore because my spot give me now a better flavor with a good extraction.
Electrofever
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I wonder if you will be making anything of all that AVB ?Pre ThermoCore vs ThermoCore
coolbreeze
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someTooL
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I see such mixed results and having never tried edible’s, it just gets dumped when full. Probably need to explore that further myself.
Bring on the Forge. Any news from up north testers?
delta hotel
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VAS is making me want to grab a Thermocore and another condenser so I can put it on my existing stem and have 2 Anvils, though I use the WPA on a j-hook most of the time. I'd maybe pick up the other or bring it out if I didn't have to swap the oven around. I figured my original oven was working just fine until I saw @coolbreeze picture up there. I've been curious about a separate butane powered vape coming out, and I already own an Anvil, but nothing I have extracts like the Anvil, so maybe I'll just double down.
Ideally though I'd still like to find some kind of portable IH that works with either oven. I know the Forge is coming out, but it isn't exactly pocketable looking. I always grab something else if I'm going out, but I'd love to be able to grab my Anvil, but I hate using the torch in the sun or if I'm out. It'd be the perfect vape if I felt like I could reliably take it anywhere a little easier.
Ideally though I'd still like to find some kind of portable IH that works with either oven. I know the Forge is coming out, but it isn't exactly pocketable looking. I always grab something else if I'm going out, but I'd love to be able to grab my Anvil, but I hate using the torch in the sun or if I'm out. It'd be the perfect vape if I felt like I could reliably take it anywhere a little easier.
David Root
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It came today. Quick inspection and clean. I put .05 in it, heated to click. Enjoy..;..
Using a glass stem with a 14 mm taper. The O ring makes for a nice fit. It won't fall out like Glass on Glass.
The bowl holds .15 consistently. Sometimes I weigh it after, and its 50 to 60 % original weight.
It does as advertised. Exactly....
I did a heat in the middle to click and get 2 good tasting hits. Weight when done, .09 of .15 load. No reheat, just asking for combustion.
I have one loud click up and two down. Combusted twice looking for the second click, must be the discs are matched well.
I've been following this thread a long time. Did not want to get into founders, so I waited until it was available off the shelf.
It drops right in my Flower pot heat stand.
David Happy R
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I found a different material, all I could put in was .1. It was springy and fresh. Heat to click... .05 left ....Black
Using a glass stem with a 14 mm taper. The O ring makes for a nice fit. It won't fall out like Glass on Glass.
The bowl holds .15 consistently. Sometimes I weigh it after, and its 50 to 60 % original weight.
It does as advertised. Exactly....
I did a heat in the middle to click and get 2 good tasting hits. Weight when done, .09 of .15 load. No reheat, just asking for combustion.
I have one loud click up and two down. Combusted twice looking for the second click, must be the discs are matched well.
I've been following this thread a long time. Did not want to get into founders, so I waited until it was available off the shelf.
It drops right in my Flower pot heat stand.
David Happy R
Edit
I found a different material, all I could put in was .1. It was springy and fresh. Heat to click... .05 left ....Black
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David Root
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I dropped it in my Ispire wand with no adapter. I set the wand on a plate, anvil inside sitting on the plate. Light blinks for 55 seconds, "CLICK" perfect roast. Nothing harsh native, .03g sample. Anvil was smoking when I took it out of the wand. I will try a full bowl some time.
Edit. Clicks at 55 seconds, then again at 60 seconds. If it heats up fast, is sounds like only one click.
I guess 3 .05 bowls would be easier than one .15 all at once. However......
Whiff10 works as a discount code at the V website.
David
Edit. Clicks at 55 seconds, then again at 60 seconds. If it heats up fast, is sounds like only one click.
I guess 3 .05 bowls would be easier than one .15 all at once. However......
Whiff10 works as a discount code at the V website.
David
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