Aged weed is better.....

[SlinginPaint]

perfectly dry seeming when i get it, maybe it needs a few weeks to get real crumbly.

I dont understand this thought process when vaping... Crumbly, dry herb has lost a decent amount of flavor and potency because it has dried out so much, this is why people us the Boveda %62 packs to keep the herb at the optimal taste/terp/medication level.

I always keep my jars at 62% and have the most sticky, perfectly cured flower that never crumble apart.

EDIT: And I DEFINITELY believe curing makes the herb more potent over time, as well as increasing the flavor profile. This does NOT happen if you let your herb dry out to crumbly dust...

 

[biohacker]

Is 62% the way to go? I noticed that Boveda sells different ones that are higher and lower humidity.

 

[SlinginPaint]

Yes, they were originally designed for cigars, but when they realized they could expand the market.... they did some research on the optimal curing RH for cannabis. 62% is what they found!

 

[MinnBobber]

exit said: ↑
perfectly dry seeming when i get it, maybe it needs a few weeks to get real crumbly.

I dont understand this thought process when vaping... Crumbly, dry herb has lost a decent amount of flavor and potency because it has dried out so much, this is why people us the Boveda %62 packs to keep the herb at the optimal taste/terp/medication level.

I always keep my jars at 62% and have the most sticky, perfectly cured flower that never crumble apart.

I agree 100% with you SlinginPaint that crumbly bud has gotten way too dry. That is why Boveda 62% packs are used.
For me, the true test is that it feels like a SPONGE. It does not crumble or fall apart when you use it.
It feels like a sponge--you compress it slightly and it springs back. You trim a piece off to use with small scissors and it compresses, then finally cuts, and flies off as it bounces back.

If it falls apart when you compress a bud with your fingers it is definitely too dry.

 

[lwien]

...... this is why people us the Boveda %62 packs to keep the herb at the optimal taste/terp/medication level.

I have never used Boveda packs and my bud, even after almost a year of storage is just as sticky and moist/dry as the day I bought it. If stored correctly, I have found that there is no need for these.

 

[SlinginPaint]

I have never used Boveda packs and my bud, even after almost a year of storage is just as sticky and moist/dry as the day I bought it. If stored correctly, I have found that there is no need for these.

Thats great for you lwein.... I find it makes my herb taste and smoke better. Im sure others will corroborate my findings as well... and maybe then you'll give em a whirl! Cheers.

To each their own.

 

[lwien]

Thats great for you lwein.... I find it makes my herb taste and smoke better. Im sure others will corroboraste my findings as well... and maybe then you'll give em a whirl! Cheers.

To each their own.

I have no need to give them a whirl. My bud, stored the way it is, is just fine, but I do understand that with less than ideal storage conditions, those Boveda packs make a lot of sense.

 

[TeeJay1952]

The most difficult thing is to properly age harvest. Most folks are DYING to get their hands on the new harvest. It is only after continued success do we have the wherewithal (supply) to wait.
Aged and cured weed is dank, sweet, flavorful and aromatic. It is like creating Fine Wine. Waiting for 20% amber and then waiting for cure is a test of patience and need. Things ARE better if you wait, or maybe it just seems that way because I work myself into a frenzy when it is time to celebrate beaujolais nouveau.

 

[biohacker]

@lwien I use glass mason jars, but my supply never lasts more than a couple of months, and i've never had any issues. I always size the jar for the right stash...I mean I keep them full.

I think the way you receive the buds makes the biggest difference. I have a couple of great clubs that supply me, and typically they are perfectly cured. I can see the need for these especially if home grown or the buds aren't received properly cured.

So I guess bud doesn't go bad in jars? I thought for long term storage vaccuum sealing and freezer was the way to go? I'm thinking that's a big no-no now.

 

[lwien]

@lwien I use glass mason jars, but my supply never lasts more than a couple of months, and i've never had any issues. I always size the jar for the right stash...I mean I keep them full.

I think the way you receive the buds makes the biggest difference. I have a couple of great clubs that supply me, and typically they are perfectly cured. I can see the need for these especially if home grown or the buds aren't received properly cured.

So I guess bud doesn't go bad in jars? I thought for long term storage vaccuum sealing and freezer was the way to go? I'm thinking that's a big no-no now.

I tried just storing my bud in mason jars and while the bud retained it's potency, it really dried out wayy too much and lost much of it's taste and aroma, but since I started using very small Space Case containers with only enough space for my bud, closed those tight and put those in a mason jar and closed those tight (double sealed if you will), and kept in a cool, dark place, my bud now not only retains it's potency, but retains all of it stickiness, smell and taste as well.

Regarding freezer, I would never do that. Causes trichs to fall off. Not a good thing. I tried the refrigerator route but that's not good either because when you take out your containers, lots of moisture will build up on the inside when you open them and while you can wait for the humidity to stabilize, my fear of mold has always kept me away from doing this.

 

[Crohnie]

You definitely don't want it to get too dry. The secret is to dry it gradually. The initial drying process is only the first part. "Curing" should make sure the bud is dry not just on the outside, but throughout the whole bud.

 

[MinnBobber]

I have no need to give them a whirl. My bud, stored the way it is, is just fine, but I do understand that with less than ideal storage conditions, those Boveda packs make a lot of sense.

It kind of depends on where you live too--the climate and humidity.
Right now the house humidity reads 60%--perfect. But in winter it drops way
down so a Boveda pack keeps it at best relative humidity (rH).

 

[TeeJay1952]

You can fix dry, can't fix mold.

 

[RUDE BOY]

Last Night i pulled out a JyARz that contained 3.5 grams of some crazy sticky bud I got last X-Mas. Pulled off a small piece of a nug and stuck it on the window, It's still there.

 

[sasNW]

I tried just storing my bud in mason jars and while the bud retained it's potency, it really dried out wayy too much and lost much of it's taste and aroma, but since I started using very small Space Case containers with only enough space for my bud, closed those tight and put those in a mason jar and closed those tight (double sealed if you will), and kept in a cool, dark place, my bud now not only retains it's potency, but retains all of it stickiness, smell and taste as well.

Regarding freezer, I would never do that. Causes trichs to fall off. Not a good thing. I tried the refrigerator route but that's not good either because when you take out your containers, lots of moisture will build up on the inside when you open them and while you can wait for the humidity to stabilize, my fear of mold has always kept me away from doing this.

If you need something bigger try out http://www.herbpreserve.com/
Like I said before best jars for curing IMO. Also I would never put bud in a freezer for storage. It likes it about 60degrees and completely dark(which is why I lovey herb preserve jars, lightproof) and always burp your jars until it's at the moisture level you want. Even if you leave slightly too moist of bud in a jar too long it will mold of course

 

[grokit]

You can fix dry, can't fix mold.

What about a bath in h202/water, that would at least kill the spores yes?

 

[TeeJay1952]

What about a bath in h202/water, that would at least kill the spores yes?

I don't know. If I get some moldy stuff, that is what I give away.

 

[biohacker]

Karma is a motherfucker!!!

 

[JCat]

Depends if the people you give it to are told its moldy (if you are giving it away and telling who you are giving it to why you are giving it away and they are still taking it thankfully ... then seems like you're doing a favor?? ...)

 

[sasNW]

I've had buddies try to pay me cheap for some buds I've grown with powdery mildew saying that they aren't worried about it.... There is no way in hell I would give any out. Odds are if they are willing to smoke moldy shit then they aren't truly aware of how bad that can be, so I would never give it away. Just my opinion though

 

[biohacker]

In desperate times many moons ago (probably over 8 years), I vaped some moldy weed due to being a rookie....OMG tasted like ammonia! It's been a while now, surely imma not gunna die from that mould? lol

We injest mould all the time....and apparently mould and fungus are a big cause of cancers.

 

[TeeJay1952]

@JCat has it one hundred percent. I explain, warn and have never charged anybody, anything ever. Always been a hobby. I had a job (retiree). They have always been thankful and appreciative.
I come from a different generation. It was usually Mexican and always moldy and never aged. They did not wait for right time to harvest. Nor did a cure. I don't think it hurt us but then again sure have lost allot of friends along the way..

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-process-of-vaping-not-destroying-contaminants.8580/ earlier thread

 

[JJ420]

Ditto on the above statements! I clearly remember all the shitty grass in high school that after looking back was, 1.) nowhere near dried, 2.) forget about being cured, and thus always had to be re-lit when smoking a doob. Pure f'in garbage!

Glad those days are over!! And it don't miss the waiting game at all (DDT or drug dealer time).

 

[SlinginPaint]

Harvest. Each jar has an 8gram Boveda %62 packet an the RH is currently down from 66 down to 63.

From left to right:

SFV OG Kush
Star Tonic
Star Tonic
Skywalker OG
Blueberry Headband

Those are 4 Pint Ball jars. No weight yet but they are smelling and tasting incredible for only being chopped 2.5 weeks ago.

 

[EverythingsHazy]

Ok, I know absolutely nothing about growing or curing. I do know about storage though and know that light, heat and air are the things that degrade weed quality so my method of storing weed is to use the smallest Space Case container that I can, close it up tight and then put that container in a mason jar and close that up tight. That double seal has kept my bud fresh and still sticky up to year after storage.

But here's the deal. Almost every time I purchase bud from my dispensary, and it's been a few different ones, with many different strains, what I have noticed is the bud becomes MUCH stronger after I've stored it for 2 to 3 months or more. Now the bud that I get is NEVER wet but rather sticky and never moist and therefore, I assumed has been cured correctly.

I've always been concerned that the bud that I get is fresh so I always ask when they got their shipment in, but now I'm thinking that that concern is unfounded.

Is bud like wine in this respect, that is, as long as it's kept in a very controlled environment, does it get better with age? In my experience, it does.

Thoughts??

Yup. If you keep it in a perfect environment, it should mature for a while, getting smoother and more flavorful/less grass or hay tasting.

Apparently, people who have asked dispensaries how long they cure their buds, have been told 2 weeks. That isn't enough. 1 month is the minimum for a good cure. Therefore, it is fitting that if you buy dispensary bud, you could/should continue the cure for another 2+ weeks.