Advanced E-cig users and oil/wax, how-to "one-hitter-quitter"

[MileHighLife]

Milehigh- i dont know if it would even be worth firing up the kiln if you were gonna order enough from china. They are seeming like they will cost $3 max.

Only problem I see is the minimum order for pretty much all of those ceramic heating elements is 500-1000 pieces. That's the way alibaba is .. it's for vendors to order large quantities of a product.

 

[rabidnz]

All manufacturers will send samples, I have dealt with alibaba and express without issues for years, touch wood! The key is to talk to them personably and disregard most of the info on alibaba. You do have do order a bunch still, but more like 10 not 1000, and if they have that many different designs i think id wanna trial a few anyway.
These ones tickled my fancy

http://zh4u.en.alibaba.com/product/...er_cup_shaped_ceramic_heater_with_Flange.html


The fat daddy vapes guy is going to put up a video of his donuts being used for ejuice, dont know how relevant that would be though to our intents and purposes.

My other thought recently after seeing exotic coils with post extensions like this swan coil and deedupdex's other masterpieces( the man is a coil savant) was to make something akin to the maud-dib heating tray, basically a mini maud dib inside a fat 23mm atty.

My q2 cup style atty has arrived, pretty fiddly to rebuild , kanthal hasnt arrived yet so no need to reach for the meter yet. Will tinker with some wicks today, torched 3mm carbon pellet for 10 minutes with no appareant change in structure, hold the heat suprisingly well too.

 

[smatchimo55]

http://zh4u.en.alibaba.com/product/...er_cup_shaped_ceramic_heater_with_Flange.html


The fat daddy vapes guy is going to put up a video of his donuts being used for ejuice, dont know how relevant that would be though to our intents and purposes.

if im not mistaken that looks like the coil that comes in the ATOMS Raw pen. looks perfect! Ive also used something similar before i learned about mods and rebuildables. They were for an old ego style pen and its 32 ga wire that it used did not cut the mustard, but the atmos raw one always was the best as far as smaller pens.

if i was feeling brave id try to mod some center posts and negative posts on an atty and see if i can get it pretty flush with a deck! the 2nd thumbnail shows one with the coils on the outside? or is it supposed to be the same thing that is in the default picture? I found specs on a similar cup and it says it only hits temps of 300c.

one last concern with these would be airflow, but when dealing with concentrate vaporization this seems to be something of not as much concern as when vaping e juice. or is this incorrect assumption?

 

[rabidnz]

The atmos is a "skillet" style coil like http://vaporblog.org/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Atmos-heating-element.jpg as opposed to the ceramic one which is embedded in the ceramic. That means that a) no metal as such in the heating chamber, b) the whole ceramic will get hot (if it works). Downside being rebuildability, which is something I highly value in a vape which explains starting at the deep end. Lucky they are cheap and last months so far from ecig testing.

I removed the tiny brass posts from the cup style atomizer, and can have a coil sitting right on the bottom of the small channel. Once i get some wire i will be able to get a proper size coil in there and see if there is any merit to this design, as it is essentially a micro ceramic domeless nail, and despite its shite construction quality i can see promise in it. Will put a pic when my wire arrives.

They have plenty of different designs with differing heater placement , the ones i was looking at said 800c, but im not sure on the specifics of voltage etc. waiting to hear back from the company. I think the tiny crucible style would be the best, good for 2-3 dabs at a time.

Im still rather novice to the technicalities of ejuice vaping, i couldnt tell a pg from a vg yet but i have learned that airflow is a big part of juice vaping. For our concerns though, the main reason to have good airflow control would be to satisfy your throaty desires as well as disperse the super concentrated smoke in that tiny heating chamber so it doesnt condense straight back into reclaim. Also im guessing some sort of heat control will be needed due to the large surface area of the ceramic.

Here is the link to the coil master deedupdex i forgot to include earlier http://www.instagram.com/deedupdex
Ps check out www.reddit.com/r/coilporn if you are that way inclined those clapton and clapdragon coils look like they could soak a few dabs up.

Pps, just talked to the vaping donuts guy and he said he will charge actual shipping cost + 1$ for international buyers, and will paypal refund the difference due to some customs complications. He had them built to spec by the company above, with lead free nickel wire and glass welded connections. I have bit the bullet so hopefully they arrive soon

 

[smatchimo55]

As far as the air control i just meant the fact ssince its in a cup there is no air hitting the coils directly and m9dding it with holes would make the cup Pointless, posting from my phone sorry for the brevity

 

[Puffers]

Those ceramic donut coils with some xc116 (ceramic) wicking would probably be beastly, tons of surface area for oil contact. I might have to pick a pack of em up.

 

[MTBerVAPEer]

There is too much jabbering of unhelpful info. What's better to mix bho with pg or vg use in a tank like protank3 or use it in adripper?


Or is making a dab attachment from an rda worth it?
I have a seego vhit type b
had the glass globes don't care for them
i am hoping for multiple responses and a short reasoning

 

[MTBerVAPEer]

Can put large balls of wax in this and blow yer head off! Cheers.

I like! my deal is before I attempt to do this get my rda (in the mail from slowtech) nimbus clone. but the bottom is flat with a little raised outter wall. my concern is I need to keep my oil in one place. I don't want to keep putting a piece on the coil and make sure it doesn't fall off. I want a cup of ss mesh to drop it in or something like that I just made that up.

in short is there a build where you can set it and forget it? such as cool coil wick wraps or a pg/vg bho mix idk anything would help.

I have a seego vhit type b it is okay for oil but i guess i want an upgrade

 

[deadheadbill]

There is too much jabbering of unhelpful info.

Yeah. That's the way to get some help.

 

[MTBerVAPEer]

i should have specified. i use solids and liquids. i mix the solids with ejmix for canna ejuice and just dab solids when at home. i am now wondering if there is one atty for both of my needs. one that i can fill with .2-.5ml of liquid and go and when i get home i can dab right off of it. just love the idea of one piece that i can rebuild myself for cheap and it will do liquids and solids. i actually would prefer an atty that can hold .5 and less. i dont like to load up 1ml of my precious juice only to have it in there for days or weeks even sometimes. would prefer to load smaller amounts and have it last a day or two.

please tell me more about how you mix bho or wax with pg/vg? ive been wanting to this for a long time.
i want to know how to do this.

i plan to try it out in my protank 3 for dual coil reasons. and in my rda to see if it is stronger.
please inform me on your procedure- ratios - outcome - and all thanks!

 

[Dangus]

please tell me more about how you mix bho or wax with pg/vg? ive been wanting to this for a long time.
i want to know how to do this.

i plan to try it out in my protank 3 for dual coil reasons. and in my rda to see if it is stronger.
please inform me on your procedure- ratios - outcome - and all thanks!

check out this thread:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/t...-safety-butane-extractor-mini-vaporizer.9221/

They have a product called EJmix that many find helpful:

 

[MTBerVAPEer]

Yeah. That's the way to get some help.

your post was useless and you cutout the part of where i asked for information.... but if it gets your post count up and feeds your trolling needs more power to you.. but so this isn't totally irrelevant and a waste of a post. can you tell me about a better oil pen or build in rda or mixing pg/vg with oil? thanks

 

[deadheadbill]

Nevermind. I'm just irritable atm.

 

[smatchimo55]

Nevermind. I'm just irritable atm.

No he obviously got tired of reading and is now going back through thread as he is repkying to old posts lol

 

[Puffers]

your post was useless and you cutout the part of where i asked for information.... but if it gets your post count up and feeds your trolling needs more power to you.. but so this isn't totally irrelevant and a waste of a post. can you tell me about a better oil pen or build in rda or mixing pg/vg with oil? thanks

Wow condescension aside... If you had thoroughly read through this thread you would notice most people are still experimenting. This is all still uncharted territory if you want something easy to "set it and forget it" go buy some Ejmix from liquidizer. If you want straight up concentrate or hi-power output dabbing on a RDA with a mod most are just loading them like one hitters. Other then that man I don't think a lot of people have tried wrapping complicated funnel coils around SS mesh to achieve what you are talking about. Why don't you wrap one up and contribute to our thread of "useless jabbered info".

 

[Lo]

From the rules:

Be nice. Let’s have some engaging and intelligent discussion.

Let's keep thread positive please, no need to be snippy with each other.

 

[rabidnz]

Everyone be quiet for a little and he might go away

 

[smatchimo55]

Hey guys here's an update to my coils. these are the strongest hitting yet, I believe they are .6 ohm total, 1.2 ohm each, 5 wraps of 26ga microcoils at about 2.55mm in diameter around 10mm long horizontal tubes of ss mesh.

hitting for 6+ seconds will make you cough like you just took a dab, tested it on the person that last made me feel like I was going to pass out and look like a bitch... today I thought he was going to puke.

Can not recommend this build however due to ease of shorting.I'll edit this post with a better picture when I get one of it all cleaned up.

here she is all loaded up still from loading it one time this morning. (including all aforementioned toking) No re adjusting of material whatsoever. should mention i was at work so i was only smoking on my breaks and lunch and then one other time, another before heading home.

just packed it on top of the coils, about up to the tops of the screws, then saturated the rest with my EJmix. first hit was delicious with a hugggge cloud and then about a minute of feeling like id been punched in the stomach.The coils are all one wire, the positive just going through the channel already there on the trident. probably easiest build to date. SS mesh in general is super easy, sans shorts lol.

while impressed with the longevity of my monster bowl of combination wax and my ejmixture, also impressed with the battery life with the MNKE 26650 high drain, has lasted me 24 hours of getting dabbed the fack out. about to throw it on the charger though its still working well.
I still have my KFL+ loaded up with my ejmix as well, i just am not liking my coil, it gets too hot after 3 seconds and starts burning stuff. i have had no experience with 32ga in there but im thinking that should do the trick.

Sorry for more jibba jabba.

 

[MTBerVAPEer]

Wow condescension aside... If you had thoroughly read through this thread you would notice most people are still experimenting. This is all still uncharted territory if you want something easy to "set it and forget it" go buy some Ejmix from liquidizer. If you want straight up concentrate or hi-power output dabbing on a RDA with a mod most are just loading them like one hitters. Other then that man I don't think a lot of people have tried wrapping complicated funnel coils around SS mesh to achieve what you are talking about. Why don't you wrap one up and contribute to our thread of "useless jabbered info".

the point of asking is to find out, hear others opinions. or so I thought. maybe someone has the choice build or most efficient way. I didn't state that's exactly what I want "the funnel RDA idea" it was something I thought of on the spot. fitting the efficient bill. don't see why everyone gets so butt hurt by someone asking a question and not wanting read excess information about to peoples life stories and life dilemmas.

this would be called irrelevant information - which is why I referred to it as jibber jabber. sorry for looking for this information and discussing with people who are in the same game as me..

 

[smatchimo55]

the point of asking is to find out, hear others opinions. or so I thought. maybe someone has the choice build or most efficient way. I didn't state that's exactly what I want "the funnel RDA idea" it was something I thought of on the spot. fitting the efficient bill. don't see why everyone gets so butt hurt by someone asking a question and not wanting read excess information about to peoples life stories and life dilemmas.

this would be called irrelevant information - which is why I referred to it as jibber jabber. sorry for looking for this information and discussing with people who are in the same game as me..

people only got butt hurt because you didn't want to read the thread. its a classic forum scenario.


here is all the other info you would need that isnt found here: my-secret-to-thc-e-cig-pg-liquid but warning, ur gonna have to read more.

 

[MileHighLife]

the point of asking is to find out, hear others opinions. or so I thought. maybe someone has the choice build or most efficient way. I didn't state that's exactly what I want "the funnel RDA idea" it was something I thought of on the spot. fitting the efficient bill. don't see why everyone gets so butt hurt by someone asking a question and not wanting read excess information about to peoples life stories and life dilemmas.

this would be called irrelevant information - which is why I referred to it as jibber jabber. sorry for looking for this information and discussing with people who are in the same game as me..

I would say this is one of the more informative threads and the only "jibber jabber" I see is people reporting orders they've placed ... which is cool by me. I think you posted in the completely wrong thread to start with tho. This is "one hitter quitter" as in sub-ohm, tear your face off rdas. IMO pj/vj cut oil doesn't fall into that category.

That thread that @smatchimo55 linked may be more for you. Or there's also a TON of info on e-cig forum sites that would be more use to you than it is to us over here because you are basically using e-juice while we are using oils and waxes.

The only "useless jabber" in this thread is now the string of posts resulting from your original post.

 

[smatchimo55]

I would say this is one of the more informative threads and the only "jibber jabber" I see is people reporting orders they've placed ... which is cool by me. I think you posted in the completely wrong thread to start with tho. This is "one hitter quitter" as in sub-ohm, tear your face off rdas. IMO pj/vj cut oil doesn't fall into that category.

That thread that @smatchimo55 linked may be more for you. Or there's also a TON of info on e-cig forum sites that would be more use to you than it is to us over here because you are basically using e-juice while we are using oils and waxes.

The only "useless jabber" in this thread is now the string of posts resulting from your original post.

speaking of orders, hows your immortalizer?? i notice u still usin the v6 in your last photo update

 

[deadheadbill]

So I got my mech mod from slowtech and it works great. I haven't got to the rebuilding yet. But my Omi carts are working well with it.

 

[smatchimo55]

So I got my mech mod from slowtech and it works great. I haven't got to the rebuilding yet. But my Omi carts are working well with it.

dont put it off! even if you run into every problem in the world it only takes 30 min what are you running for material in that cart?

 

[deadheadbill]

dont put it off! even if you run into every problem in the world it only takes 30 min what are you running for material in that cart?

Yeah I know. I'm looking at some vids now.

Some really pure bho. I have a 3.7 volt 18650 in there so it only pushes the omi cart slightly harder than normal if at all.