7+ Years of Work for this Vaporizer Ecosystem

davesmith

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Glass Blower
There are some videos on their site now btw

I’d like to see what the chambers and heating element are made of, how the airpath is and if it’s isolated, there’s so much more info you could include. How do you load the herb for example?
 

KingNAB

Active Member
Manufacturer
There are some videos on their site now btw

I’d like to see what the chambers and heating element are made of, how the airpath is and if it’s isolated, there’s so much more info you could include. How do you load the herb for example?
 

cosimo

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is there any kind of cooling mechanism in the mouthpiece??? the mouth piece is silicone only?
 
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zeebudz

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What part of the dry herb chamber is actually heated up? Can you do a single session once you've loaded it or do you need to mix up the herb one or more times for even extraction? What does the avb look like after a session?
 

Cheebsy

Microbe minion
Of course! Our other Co-Founder came up with the idea for the heater cartridge. 3-4 depending on session length
Can you please give more information on this? I've looked at your chamber swapping videos, the dry herb attachment doesn't seem big enough for a heater cartridge, at least none that I've had experience with, but I'm no expert. Can you show us the air path and materials, in a cross section diagram, for this part please?
 

FlyingLow

Team NO SLEEP!
lots of smoke and mirrors for this one... shill reviews from people that got free devices. What educated and experienced vaporist is stupid enough to jump on this hype train? For $400????

I may eat my words later, but I am shocked there are enough buyers out there to keep this business afloat. Their whole line was the most unappealing release of 2024.
 
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davesmith

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Glass Blower
I mean every part of the site reads like ChatGPT, including the reviews so I am inclined to be skeptical of any of them.

I feel like even the replies in this thread read a bit like AI. It may just be their writing style though 😂😂

Curiosity got the best of me and I gave it a google. They have presence on most social media and a few videos on their instagram. Still no user reviews or info though and 10k followers? I feel like we all know where this is going. Maybe when the rebrands come out for $89 ill scoop one 😂
 
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KingNAB

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Manufacturer
Can you please give more information on this? I've looked at your chamber swapping videos, the dry herb attachment doesn't seem big enough for a heater cartridge, at least none that I've had experience with, but I'm no expert. Can you show us the air path and materials, in a cross section diagram, for this part please?
@davesmith Yes, we should be putting out a podcast on YouTube this week with more info on the materials and decision making behind it. It is a very small heater cartridge. We will look into putting out a cross section diagram as well.

@zeebudz Hayden will explain the chamber and airpath works in a bit more detail in the podcast episode.

@cosimo In the vapor path there is a medical grade stainless steel plate with airholes that dissipates the majority of the heat.
 
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seedy53

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We love to hear it!

I certainly agree that is the right place for knowledgeable vaporist and it's a completely different conversation than we're used to having outside of this forum. Our target consumer is the "mindful" herbal user.

As far as the heaters go we're pulling some tech from the home appliance industry that optimizes airflow and allows for an extremely efficient energy consumption. The stainless steel in combination with convection has show very even extraction in current product testing.

We're about to get our 3rd batch of production representative units for final iterations before production is kicked off
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We think this is going to be a real game changer. Unfortunately I am unable to share any specifics atm, but we do have a plan laid out for consistent experiences.
i think teasing this vape community will be detrimental to your launch. promises are easy to make but hard to pull off. until you have a product to share to (at least) our regular beta testers here in FC, the whole thing is a non starter for me. your demo videos kind of suck tbh
 

KingNAB

Active Member
Manufacturer
@KingNAB we look forward to the video.

can I ask where it’s manufactured?
China for now.
i think teasing this vape community will be detrimental to your launch. promises are easy to make but hard to pull off. until you have a product to share to (at least) our regular beta testers here in FC, the whole thing is a non starter for me. your demo videos kind of suck tbh
I've talked to a staff member about having someone from here test and they didn't want to recommend anyone at the time. I will reach out again and see if it's a possibility! Do you have any specific feedback you could provide about the demo videos?
 
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davesmith

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Glass Blower
“Mindful” users 💀💀💀

Dudes you are obviously business people focusing on your image, social media, marketing etc but the fundamental thing is do you have a good product?

Most “mindful” users will grab a pax, venty or a solo as theyre industry leaders with decades of experience. Most educated users will grab a tinymight or more artisan device. I’m not sure where or why people would buy a product like yours. I know you emphasise the 3 in 1 thing but honestly a 510 user won’t want a unit as big as yours, a concentrate user will probably use a dedicated device, and unless that dry herb cartridge stands up to the heavy hitters at that price you just won’t shift thousands. Also carrying the spare parts and stuff ruins the convenience of a 3 in 1 imho.

I know fc is a tough crowd but time and time again we’ve seen these devices come and go, it’s pretty rare one actually succeeds.
 

RustyOldNail

SEARCH for the treasure...
I've talked to a staff member about having someone from here test and they didn't want to recommend anyone at the time. I will reach out again and see if it's a possibility!

Ask about sponsoring a CONTEST here. There have been a number of new manufacturers that have done this here. The winners are asked to review and report back. If you have a good product, getting it into the hands of some users here, would be worth the minimal expense. Good luck!
 

KingNAB

Active Member
Manufacturer
“Mindful” users 💀💀💀

Dudes you are obviously business people focusing on your image, social media, marketing etc but the fundamental thing is do you have a good product?

Most “mindful” users will grab a pax, venty or a solo as theyre industry leaders with decades of experience. Most educated users will grab a tinymight or more artisan device. I’m not sure where or why people would buy a product like yours. I know you emphasise the 3 in 1 thing but honestly a 510 user won’t want a unit as big as yours, a concentrate user will probably use a dedicated device, and unless that dry herb cartridge stands up to the heavy hitters at that price you just won’t shift thousands. Also carrying the spare parts and stuff ruins the convenience of a 3 in 1 imho.

I know fc is a tough crowd but time and time again we’ve seen these devices come and go, it’s pretty rare one actually succeeds.
Yes, people who use cannabis or herbs with intention. People like myself who finds strains with pinene to stay focused when I game, play sports, lift, or work. Or Linalool when I go out socially, because I have social anxiety.. etc.

Most "mindful" users grab what they can at the moment because no one has solved the inconsistent experience issue with cannabis. That's what we're trying to solve. The Mixturus is the first part of an ecosystem we're hoping to create. We understand that it comes with limiations that single uses devices have solved.. Anyone can do that. 3 in 1 allows you the flexability to find the stain for your needs. Sometimes you want a strain that is only availbile in carts or shatter or flower.. How can we give you everything you need for your ritual if we don't do 3 in 1? The price point is high at first glance, but if you purchase a Venty, Peak, and a Fino whats that add up to?
With each solution it simply creates another problem to solve, so we will have to figure those out as they come.

What do you think we're here for?
Ask about sponsoring a CONTEST here. There have been a number of new manufacturers that have done this here. The winners are asked to review and report back. If you have a good product, getting it into the hands of some users here, would be worth the minimal expense. Good luck!
I will do that! Thank you for the advice.
 

davesmith

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Glass Blower
Normally I take cannabis with intention. The intention is usually to get high 😂

The above response just sounds like more marketing nonsense to me.

What is the inconsistency in experience you talk about? Could you explain a bit more please?
 
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TigoleBitties

Big and Bouncy
Normally I take cannabis with intention. The intention is usually to get high 😂
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The above response just sounds like more marketing nonsense to me.

What is the inconsistency in experience you talk about? Could you explain a bit more please?
I think the passage below is the gist of it.
Sometimes you want a strain that is only availbile in carts or shatter or flower.. How can we give you everything you need for your ritual if we don't do 3 in 1?
I assume the "inconsistency in experience" occurs when you can't consume the strain you like because it's in a form your vape can't handle e.g. a cart or shatter
 
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KingNAB

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Normally I take cannabis with intention. The intention is usually to get high 😂

The above response just sounds like more marketing nonsense to me.

What is the inconsistency in experience you talk about? Could you explain a bit more please?
Not a damn thing wrong with that my friend! I do that with my woman at the end of every night.

😂

I think the passage below is the gist of it.

I assume the "inconsistency in experience" occurs when you can't consume the strain you like because it's in a form your vape can't handle e.g. a cart or shatter
Not exactly. I'm referring to when you smoke for example blue dream one night and it makes you happy and giggly then the next night you get introspective and sleepy. Varying affects across the same strains.. Hence affecting your intentional use. I don't want my pinene strain making me sleepy when I am trying to get a high intensity workout. We think we can solve this with the ecosystem.
 
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Radwin Bodnic

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Accessory Maker
Varying affects across the same strains.. Hence affecting your intentional use. I don't want my pinene strain making me sleepy when I am trying to get a high intensity workout. We think we can solve this with the ecosystem.

"Of course, the drug dose does not produce the transcendent experience. It merely acts as a chemical key — it opens the mind, frees the nervous system of its ordinary patterns and structures. The nature of the experience depends almost entirely on set and setting. Set denotes the preparation of the individual, including his personality structure and his mood at the time. Setting is physical — the weather, the room's atmosphere; social — feelings of persons present towards one another; and cultural — prevailing views as to what is real."
- Timothy Leary
 
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KingNAB

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Manufacturer
"Of course, the drug dose does not produce the transcendent experience. It merely acts as a chemical key — it opens the mind, frees the nervous system of its ordinary patterns and structures. The nature of the experience depends almost entirely on set and setting. Set denotes the preparation of the individual, including his personality structure and his mood at the time. Setting is physical — the weather, the room's atmosphere; social — feelings of persons present towards one another; and cultural — prevailing views as to what is real."
- Timothy Leary
Leary was pioneer and amazing advocate for mind altering substance. I just mentioned set and setting last weekend. Hopefully we can expand upon his work 💚
 
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