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Pretty sure all that have shipped since around the first of the year have been the new style.

Was the back end that broke the old style, with the seam?

It is indeed incoherent when someone espouses "hard science" yet cannot recognize that the controlled conditions read about in textbooks are not achieved in real life situations.

Actually, there was a long gap between finishing up with individual backers and then shipping a couple hundred to retailers. Who have just now been selling them. Things may change when more users actually get their hands on them.

Are you using them on the same body? Otherwise, you aren't really confirming anything about the properties of the metals...

Just in case someone missed the one post out of all these hundreds- DO NOT DO THIS! HL specifically said not to. And they said it to Vaperist, who should know better than to suggest it, even if it was meant as a joke....

Why have you decided that the difference is "meaningful"? Did you try both side by side? In a blind test? (Maybe you had someone hold them to your lips so you couldn't notice the difference in the weights) If so, have you measured that the temperatures are calibrated identically on each...

In REAL LIFE usage, a person is not going to notice any performance difference caused by the different metals used in the construction of a GH. I'm not putting any weight on something a "beta tester dude" "mentioned", because that is one person's subjective opinion, and because BETA. And anyway...

Differing properties of metals aside, it's extremely doubtful that any of that makes an observable difference to the real life GH user. OK- scratch resistance could, though if it is anodized, might not really be a benefit. Scratches through the color layer are going to be a lot more noticeable...

How exactly would that work? At this point, no retailer is going to have enough stock to replace a broken unit. It's still going to have to come from HL, which is not going to be fast. Guess you would save a bit on shipping if you only had to send it back to the place you bought it, but I'm not...

They've changed and tweaked things who knows how many times. I'd caution people against jumping to any conclusions about SS vs. Ti, because it's so likely for two vapes made at different times to have more differences than just the type of metal.

I bought the company and am planning on sitting on all the inventory for a while and then raising prices by %200.

You know what they say, "5th time's a charm!"

They have to/had to get through 200 units for the retailer backers before starting on the preorders. That's why we are seeing a gap. Or at least one reason why...

No, of course I don't think that. I'm addressing literally the only things we, the customers, know about the business end of their operation- their output and their customer service. Seeing as we have absolutely no idea of the financial and business side of the operation, there is no concrete...

I think by "math", people are talking about unrealistic estimates. "it takes X minutes to assemble one Grasshopper, there are Y people working for Z hours/day" - not really the type of thing you need to be an engineer, accountant, or anything other than a High School student to solve.

Buzz said on the other thread that they said they are sending out the bulk packs before moving on to preorders. Which is totally fair, because those went to backers. So that's 200 units to get out the door first...

It's the info about how people who don't buy directly from GH will need to register so they can be eligible for warranty protection.

Yeah, the purple is on the grey side. I think I actually like it more than if it had been more purplish.

Sounding more and more like they are prioritizing some large wholesale orders. Or they've been out of backends for 6 weeks, which would just be more "WTF are they thinking when they send obviously impossible estimates?" Or both.