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Again I don't care for the grinder, you think if I ask them they could drop the grinder and lower it 2 bucks?

How is their shipping and packaging? And what bonuses does it come with? I don't care for the battery or a grinder, seeing as I already had rechargeable AA batteries, and a coffee grinder.

Where are you seeing it for $85? And I heard many rave reviews for the VG saying it is one of the best vapes under 100, hence why I got one.

Thank you, I was a little too medicated of a slice of pie. Anyone buy a vaporgenie not content with usage? And then bought one of the magic flight models and was happier with their new purchase or found it more effective? I feel I have to use a bit more bud than I normally would with the...

Anyone buy a vaporgenie not content with usage? And then bought one of the magic flight models and was happier with their new purchase or found it more effective?

How does the Tube model compare to this?

I guess I have to practice more with other soft plants, like tea, before I go try it again with the good greens so I don't waste it.

Yeah that what I have been doing. I put it on the side, and slowly inhale air per this thread. I guess I will try to load it looser or something and see how that turns out. And I never overfilled as I only used about little in there, like .07. Maybe it is the standard bic lighter I am using that...

So, then this really isn't for plants as some of the videos show?

I got the Bat on Friday for $55 at a local shop, and have used it 3 times since then. I am starting to have a little buyers remorse. I only say this because I feel it is not effective as it suppose to be, and I am using stuff i got at a local medical shop. It turns a proper dark brown at the end...