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It really looks like most units wont be shipping until the end of November or the beginning of December. If all the betas are shipped this week the beta crew should have their units next week. Which means the next 25-50 won't go out until the week of Oct 26th or November 2. That will put the...

I am in 100% agreement on this one. There are plenty of posts where people are stoked to get their hopper only to be followed up a day or three later about the hopper craped out on them. I am giving GHL till the December 16th update and if mass shipping hasn't started with a low failure rate...

Sweet, so we should all have our Zions before Christmas hopefully. RBTs update made it sound like some of the current pre orders would be shipping in 2016 as well.

Yeah I thought the lifetime pre-orders were all shipping in October as well. I figured if to many orders came in the shipping time would change.

It looks like pre-orders will still be shipping in 2016 according to RBT so if you ordered just recently I wouldn't expect your Zion until sometime in 2016. I feel ya with the VAS. Yeah the 2016 talk has me kind of scared too!

I just quit combusting and love blowing big clouds!! I don't think that will ever go away for me. I hope the Zion can deliver the clouds and after reading through this thread plus seeing some videos I think I'll be on cloud 9.

It's part of their terms and agreements that if you sell products or services that PayPal doesn't approve of they can basically seize your money, kinda like government drug forfeitures/seizure. I believe @VapCap from Dynavap just had money sucked right out of his bank account from PayPal. It...

After the last update from GHL I had some real concerns about everything and sent an email to them. Here is the reply I got back from Trevor. Thanks for checking in with me. Pre-orders will start shipping once backer units have been delivered. The speed at which this happens is dependent on...

Man I was just coming in here to say how awesome the new bigger stem caddy is, I've been living mine! Fuck PayPal!!!!! What bullshit I hope you get your money but I wouldn't count on it. I've heard of money horror stories like this and people never getting their money back. I really hope it...

Sweet!! :rockon::rockon:

Sweet so it sounds like if any changes are made to the new beta units that it will be more fine tuning of the heater than anything else since it sounds like the bodies are already made. I hope it doesn't get detuned to run cooler. Glad to know the line isn't insanely long. Don't mean to be a...

Another one bites the dust Another one bites the dust And another one gone, another one gone Another one bites the dust!!!

I do too. @RastaBuddhaTao @thekarmawhore what is production looking like, any updates on when the new beta will be shipped out? How long is the new beta testing process going to take? What changes are you prepared to make if the beta units dont pass the test and how long will that hold up...

I wonder how much the production Zion's have changed from the beta units? I hope it performs flawlessly and production goes smoothly!!!

I was just hoping the new beta tester units would start to ship tomorrow or Monday!!

Yeah I usually see them on the 2nd.

I just sit here shaking my head, the modern generation scares me! :tup: I'm in tears over here!!! For some reason I just found this really funny. Idk maybe cuz I'm vaked.:science::science:

Yeah October has 31 days in it but the rbt website says shipping starts October 2nd. I'm just hoping shipping really does start tomorrow unlike other companies who's shipping times keep getting pushed back. Edit: I just rechecked the rbt site and now it just says shipping in October but I know...

Yaaaay October is here!!! I wonder if any Zions will be shipping tomorrow? I'm feeling like a kid during Christmas time. I can't wait for the Zion to get here.

Seems like everyone they've shipped out has had to be replaced.