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Shitty iPhone camera but HA elite, .4 half ground half not. 400f. Sitting in there for about 3 minutes before hitting but scouts honour that was the first draw of the bowl.

I have been teedering on the edge of LSV for a while but think I can get just as good cloud with the hammer... This portable could be veryyyy interesting. Battery life being the biggest concern for me. Especially if it's going to have dbv/ssv lsv style horse power? But guess we won't know much...

Just went to buy a lily, puffitup are out of stock! What about the Prima? Looks cool. Alfa looks pretty cool too

Something tough and reliable but not butane?... Air or solo.

I'd have thought a company as large and reputable as 7th floor would have gone about this a lot better. For that price, and confirming the details on the 30 days money back, if they had some pictures that appealed to me, I'd have ordered today. Surely there is a picture to be had? If available...

Mmmmm fuck you! Haha. I "thought" I had temporarily cured VAS until the zion came and then I'd just quit cold turkey! After reading this I now realised I need another butane one, a proper torch one. Got a hammer and VG (been on loan, but used enjoyed and got me keen for another). Why don't you...

In all honestly, I couldn't imagine it! In my mind excluding my own selfish reason, the selling point to me of a zion is the ability to convert tobacoo/weed mix Bong smoking mates! Love to see what a wall plug will do

Mmm, one wonders if a tick of a box could magically change a production unit back to a beta? Haha

Whip from air intake to fish tank pump. Some way to connect a bag, some sort of 18mm male - bag valve.

cheers for the 14 pages of heaven can't beleive it too me this long! Bitty bong but he's a sloppy video of the hammer.

Mmmmm:( not available here yet either! When will this nightmare end. In other news, rocking the solo stem in the ha loving it. Getting a solo gong, as it works on my hammer conduction mode into my bong as with the ha as with my solo... One bit of $39 glass and 3 different Vapor gong set ups...

For any of those part of the rbt team, any idea if international orders could be shipped if one frofits any resend or refund if ceased at customs?

Awesome, I heard the single bat beta stage would be ready for internstional before the zion so I ordered that (dunno if I got in at beta stage or not) but obviously as soon as we know more I'll order a Zion or at least see if I can pay the difference and change it. Damn this big body of water...

Oh course HD!:). One would just like to know which horse to bet on so he doesn't miss it across the finish line ;). Given waiting times, purchasing orders beta testing and so on, I just wanna put my money on what's gonna get me a wood block around a zion heater of some type! One two or twenty...

For international shipping? Seems if that's the case I'll be kicking myself for not getting in at the lower price point, but if anyone could say with half confidence the zion will be available internationally before the single bat beta testing I'll change my order, or keep it and order a zion...

Sorry, I meant I really like my HA too. Just wish it went hotter, herbalizer Is apparently similar In function but it goes much hotter. 445F I think.

That would be amazing, makes me want a herbalizer but the time it takes me to save for one the zion should be out!

Anyone with any idea on which of the Zion family will be available for international shipping first? Makes sense that the Zion since it's almost in production, then I heard it will still be a while and the single bat beta will be International... Just don't wanna bet on the wrong horse is all!

Vapor bonging only and I have used both solo and HA extensively this way the HA milks better, I wish there was more temp, as for efficency it works with small loads as well but you can load a lot, use your solo gong and load small bowls, from what I have seen I can't conceive the solo working...

Yea it puzzles me where the clouds go in this thin maybe a higher air ratio, although in saying that ground or even just broken up and a slight pack you should get vapor bong milk, not thick and dense as some others, but certainly enough to remove transparency. Another trick I found for vapor...