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Are you talking about older designs going up in price or the new designs starting off higher? Because the price of many of the new pieces seems commensurate with increased design complexity. Simpler items like the D020-D are still only $32, pretty cheap by my standards.

I can relate to your experience. I vaped on and off for 20 years or so, but always went back to combustion and my trusty waterpipe. Then I found this place and kicked it for good once I got my first actually good vaporizer that worked for me. The right device for the right person will switch...

Guess what came back to life. (again) Still no stock of glass parts available.

Maybe I'm just spoiled by the updates in the Okin thread, now THAT'S how you do updates. The Okin could take another 5 years to become reality and I wouldn't care as long as @Dan Morrison keeps feeding us his brilliant photo essays and production process details.

I do think they will actually deliver and are as close as they've ever been. I also "mostly" don't blame them for the lack of transparency, they are so late to market they have no choice but to keep stringing it along or the hasty emotional types will flood them with refund requests just before...

Don't blame yourself, it's what they wanted you to think.

Thank you for sharing that info. It's not what they DO say, it's what they DON'T say in these updates that is the problem. Imagine the pandemonium if they put out there in the public update that they still don't have heaters, but look, shiny bags of other stuff and incomplete builds!

1+1=Hazefinity Hazefinity and beyond!

I estimate each bag contains between 350-500 pieces depending on part size, but we don't know how many bags they have that are not pictured.

I vaguely recall someone posted that they put their PNWT into where Daisy's neck piece goes? I'll have to remember to try it when I get home, but I'll probably forget.

I don't think they will ever say anything about shipping in the updates until the things are boxed up to go and ready to be picked up by the carrier. But speculation is fun! I still think they could be much less vague and not cause themselves trouble by it (and in fact help their image more)...

Are you going to publish your survey results?

Just got it sorted, but thank you, I will remember that for the future. Incycler is mine....but now my watch begins...

Here's the link, it's $10 cheaper without the bucket. http://www.dhgate.com/product/mothership-torus-twin-item-2015-new-height/236870032.html

Haven't bought anything on DH in awhile, this time it rejected my CC. I went to my CC online acct and approved the payment, but not sure if that closes the loop with DHgate. I'll have to wait a couple days and see if it moves into shipping, I'd rather not risk a double-charge on my card and...

I just looked and can confirm he added the "no bucket" cheaper option. I've been waiting for this one....thanks!

You mean Sir Barristan and I don't think Greyworm died, plus now you really did open the spoiler can.

Worst - Atmos Raw (I did not know any better at the time, was before I found FC) Best - Versa Infinity Would most like to try but haven't yet: Crafty/Mighty, Underdog/Enano, Minivap

From your comments it appears purchasing from this type of overseas vendor is new for you? If so it may not be your cup of tea as getting frustrated about the shipping is basically a requirement for DHglass deals. Plus, you seem to be complaining about the vendor, when in this case, it is not...