Tafée Bowle

[vapviking]

How well has that worked in practice?

It is cumbersome, a little awkward with my j or u hooks, since Bowle is inverted, or horizontal at best. A two handed operation, for sure, including pinching the silicone. And the whole way the pot/srem clicks into place, well that's not well suited to acrobatics.
But, some huge hits, finish a pot in 2 or 3 hits, etc.

I was thinking extending the air path from the stem which already restricts a good amount would lead to less efficient sessions because it would increase the amount of suction force required to net the same effect as if you use the stem on its own.

Could use a stubby stem for less length?

Removing the std mp opens up airfow, and the hopper silicone doesn't restrict much...
As I said, stem on its own is just fine w me!

 

[jbm]

Or you can (gasp) put the cup on and fill it with ice water, which will cool the stem, and thus the vapor. I find these “why can’t I run this through water” machinations amusing. You can, just not that way.

 

[vapviking]

Or you can (gasp) put the cup on and fill it with ice water, which will cool the stem, and thus the vapor. I find these “why can’t I turn this into a regular vape” machinations amusing. You can, just not that way.

It would be a dribble cup for me, since I usually use no silicone mouthpiece at all, and I'm prone to tipping the Bowle toward myself!

I'm not trying to make it into a regular vape, whatever that may be. Just exploring easy enhancement options, as with every other vape I've owned.

Sticking the hopper condom onto the stem isn't much of a machination...and as I mentioned, not worth the effort anyway -- so we actually agree on that part!

 

[dimmusp]

I created a dedicated thread for comparisons between the TB2, Frolic, ConVex, and TM2: https://fuckcombustion.com/threads/convex-vs-frolic-vs-tb2-fafée-bowle-ii-vs-tm2-tinymight-2.56669/

If you have them, please contribute! Thanks

 

[Bear R.]

Hey everyone..I purchased the TB series 2 about two months ago now & tho I had an issue with the first one the 2nd device has been Incredible..Im diggin' the instant heat up & my goodness, the monster hits you get from this thing is ridiculous..the heater is a beast and will keep up no matter what your draw style is..I learned that if you let your herb dry out a bit, you get huge clouds and quickly..Thanks Tafée for a Great Vaporizer...I have more to add but will return later for that...Thanks guys & gals and take care .!!

 

[Datoneguy]

I'm sorry to be that guy but I was wondering if you all had any info on the tafee bowle 2 and the aluminum stem issues mentioned on this thread about the Tafee Bowle 1 stem and the paint chipping off and stuff like that.

i was hesitant on the aluminum stem in general but I'm coming around to the idea that it's likely fine. But the flaking of aluminum is a different thing and I saw it mentioned on the first bowle. Is this still an issue?

Very much leaning towards this device (or a tm2...) but just want to iron out some details on the safety profile of these devices. Also, does the bowle have an isolated airpath? (this seems to be rare...)

 

[vapviking]

I'm sorry to be that guy but I was wondering if you all had any info on the tafee bowle 2 and the aluminum stem issues mentioned on this thread about the Tafee Bowle 1 stem and the paint chipping off and stuff like that.

i was hesitant on the aluminum stem in general but I'm coming around to the idea that it's likely fine. But the flaking of aluminum is a different thing and I saw it mentioned on the first bowle. Is this still an issue?

Very much leaning towards this device (or a tm2...) but just want to iron out some details on the safety profile of these devices. Also, does the bowle have an isolated airpath? (this seems to be rare...)

We've had 2 Series 2 Bowle at top of the rotation for a while now, with no chipping or flaking of the fnish on puck or stems.
Slight wear shows on "feet" of the puck.
And with no other bad reports here, I personally consider this a non-issue.

Isolated Air Path can mean, I think, different things to different people. I at least know the airpath is separated from battery and main electronics section of the puck base.

Years ago @ChooChooCharlie got Bruno miffed at him, by posting some pics of the puck, opened up.
The pics from his several posts show the white ceramic part where the magic happens.
Look at this post and follow down that same page for more pictures and detail on airpath.
Here's Charlie's post. I do miss that guy!

Tafée Bowle

I much prefer an all glass hook instead of using the aluminum steel and silicone here... I love glass, too! I was suggesting an $8 adapter to make use of the stem he already has. I leave.the silicone mp off the stem btw. Something about the metal adds cooling and what I kinda call...

fuckcombustion.com

 

[buzzardwhiskey]

My Bowle 2 remains virtually un-scratched after good use. I am unconcerned about its vapor... integrity.

 

[dimmusp]

I do miss that guy!

What happened? Is he OK?

 

[vapviking]

What happened? Is he OK?

As far as I know, which is not saying much, he is okay, but is choosing some time away from fc.

 

[Hagbard]

guys... i have (maybe a stupid) question and due to the fact english is not my first language i read the manual several times but there is one last thing i cannot find. do i have to stop the heater by clicking once when i stopped inhaling? or is there an automatic shut off when finished the draw?

 

[TigoleBitties]

guys... i have (maybe a stupid) question and due to the fact english is not my first language i read the manual several times but there is one last thing i cannot find. do i have to stop the heater by clicking once when i stopped inhaling? or is there an automatic shut off when finished the draw?

No dumb questions.

So first of all, there is an automatic shutoff if you fire the heater and there's no draw detected for about 2sec. This is a protection feature however so the heater isn't damaged and you don't really want this kicking in.

There are two ways to use the Bowle:

• Hold down the big button, start drawing when the light turns green and don't let go until you want to stop firing the heater.
• Press the big button once to start the heater, start drawing once the light is green and then press the button once more when you're ready to stop the heater.

I used to use the first method for a long time because it's hard to "forget" to let go of the button when you're done drawing, but I would sometimes unconsciously release my finger enough to stop the heater when I didn't want to during my draw. Now I use the second method.

If I pass the Bowle to someone to try however, I always tell them to use the first mode of operation. Less chance for user error as most people forget the second press when they're lost in their hit.

 

[Hagbard]

thanks for the info @TigoleBitties

and another one: is that flaking, wearing-off and "dust" issue really gone with the stem of the TB2? can long-time users confirm? my TB2 should arrive tomorrow by a german reseller. and due to the fact that it might be a no-go for me having anything like that in my vapor path i maybe would send it back instantly... do not want anything like this in my vapes. although this device really really got me when reading all of your pages this fact really makes me unsure and anxious :/

would be much appreciated if you guys can say something about this matter...

 

[staircase slight of hand]

and another one: is that flaking, wearing-off and "dust" issue really gone with the stem of the TB2? can long-time users confirm?

It sounds like you want us to prove a negative, which is literally impossible. It might be more productive to evaluate the safety based on what you know is happening, rather than what you think isn’t happening.

 

[fangorn]

thanks for the info @TigoleBitties

and another one: is that flaking, wearing-off and "dust" issue really gone with the stem of the TB2? can long-time users confirm? my TB2 should arrive tomorrow by a german reseller. and due to the fact that it might be a no-go for me having anything like that in my vapor path i maybe would send it back instantly... do not want anything like this in my vapes. although this device really really got me when reading all of your pages this fact really makes me unsure and anxious :/

would be much appreciated if you guys can say something about this matter...

Sorry...

I've brought up this dust issue two or three times... I'm a bit responsible...

My experience is old in vaporizer terms, now... it was with the TB OG, more than 4 years ago...

I didn't want it to be completely forgotten so that everyone could be aware of it...
(and because I regret the handling of the issue at the time, and because I'd like it to be 200% resolved - SS stem or glass stem? - so I can order a new one)

But I also don't want it to generate fears if it's no longer justified!

I'm going to stop bringing up this experience here... this FC thread will serve as a reminder!

Since then, as far as I know, no other user has been as bothered as me... and that was 3-4 years ago, so...

Mea culpa for my insistence on this old, painful memory!

 

[Hagbard]

i just need a few answers that say something like "no problem with MY unit" not an overall safety. i don't wanna spend 500€ to find aluminium coating particles in my vapor path. and if its unpacked i can send it back to safe the money. if the users experience is fine with this issue (that was clearly in issue imo) i am fine with that too and looking forward to welcome this beauty to a new home

Sorry...

I've brought up this dust issue two or three times... I'm a bit responsible...

My experience is old in vaporizer terms, now... it was with the TB OG, more than 4 years ago...

I didn't want it to be completely forgotten so that everyone could be aware of it...
(and because I regret the handling of the issue at the time, and because I'd like it to be 200% resolved - SS stem or glass stem? - so I can order a new one)

But I also don't want it to generate fears if it's no longer justified!

I'm going to stop bringing up this experience here... this FC thread will serve as a reminder!

Since then, as far as I know, no other user has been as bothered as me... and that was 3-4 years ago, so...

Mea culpa for my insistence on this old, painful memory!

not at all my man. you were the one that raised this issue but i worked my way through all of this 200 pages and you were definitely not the only one seeing it as an issue - including myself. you know me and when it comes to materials safety and well thought out devices i am not looking at the money. but as far as this "was" an issue i am definitely interested if it has gotten better nowadays

edit: sorry mods for double post. i still cannot figure out how to put comments like this together

 

[vapviking]

and another one: is that flaking, wearing-off and "dust" issue really gone with the stem of the TB2? can long-time users confirm?

i just need a few answers that say something like "no problem with MY unit" not an overall safety. i don't wanna spend 500€ to find aluminium coating particles in my vapor path. and if its unpacked i can send it back to safe the money. if the users experience is fine with this issue (that was clearly in issue imo) i am fine with that too and looking forward to welcome this beauty to a new home

Just above, on this page, I wrote about this, I think itis not an issue with the Series 2.
Regarding clicking procedures, I use different procedure for Series 1 vs Series 2.
Of the 2 bullet points posted by @TigoleBitties above, I use the first one for Series 1 and the second one for Series 2.

Enjoy your new Bowle!

 

[Bear R.]

I'm not a long time Bowle user but I've been using mine almost non stop since I got it which is like 3 months ago now..no flaking or anything like that at all..Congrats.!!. your gonna love it..

 

[TigoleBitties]

I'm not a long time Bowle user but I've been using mine almost non stop since I got it which is like 3 months ago now..no flaking or anything like that at all..Congrats.!!. your gonna love it..

Same here and I've had mine close to a year now. The anodization on the aluminum seems very thick and ultimately, I find the area where the stem snaps in to always have some level of flower resin that acts like a lubricant.

You're gonna love it.

 

[Shit Snacks]

i just need a few answers that say something like "no problem with MY unit" not an overall safety. i don't wanna spend 500€ to find aluminium coating particles in my vapor path. and if its unpacked i can send it back to safe the money. if the users experience is fine with this issue (that was clearly in issue imo) i am fine with that too and looking forward to welcome this beauty to a new home

Yeah I don't like it psychologically, but I never had a problem with my original, it's just the idea of it, but in normal use seems to be not much of an issue really... There are a few things like this that have kept me away from the TB2 though they are personal really

sorry mods for double post. i still cannot figure out how to put comments like this together

You cannot, the thing to do is report the post and say back to back please merge, mods will not see a random comment post, I always see people writing to them as if they were tagged as if they are reading everything lol anyway they will read it if you report it!

 

[Bear R.]

That resin like lubricant where the stem connects..that's funny, but it's true.. You can clean it, but it's back before you know it..haha..

 

[Pachena]

Same here and I've had mine close to a year now. The anodization on the aluminum seems very thick and ultimately, I find the area where the stem snaps in to always have some level of flower resin that acts like a lubricant.

You're gonna love it.

That resin like lubricant where the stem connects..that's funny, but it's true.. You can clean it, but it's back before you know it..haha..

Hmm. Had a close look at mine — where exactly might I see the resin?

 

[Bear R.]

Well, where I always see this resin is where the stem screws together with the bottom section..it seems to collect a little bead of resin around the whole piece..
I think that's where TigoleBitties was talking about..it's the only place I see this happening anyway..

 

[TigoleBitties]

Well, where I always see this resin is where the stem screws together with the bottom section..it seems to collect a little bead of resin around the whole piece..
I think that's where TigoleBitties was talking about..it's the only place I see this happening anyway..

Yes. I find unless I wipe it away every so often it builds up I guess because the whole stem acts as a condenser. Also bits of flower sometimes come loose and get mashed up in that area. Try touching around the stem close to where the bowl sits and connects to the puck. Usually a bit sticky/oily there.

 

[dimmusp]

For what it's worth, I asked Tafée about material safety some time ago and they said this:

Bowle Series II was engineered with both performance and safety in mind, using only carefully selected materials throughout the air and aerosol path.


The air and aerosol path in Bowle Series II includes the following materials:


Aluminum and stainless steel (Stem and device enclosure)

Ceramics (used in the device engine and pots)

High-temperature food-grade silicone gaskets (used to ensure tight airflow seals between components)


Importantly, there are no plastics like PEEK used in the air or aerosol path.


The heating element is constructed from a proprietary ratio of biocompatible-metal alloy, fully isolated from electronics for consistent, reliable performance and pure aerosol delivery.

Your concerns regarding materials such as aluminum and silicone are completely valid, and we’d like to offer some clarity. Historically, caution around those materials in aerosol devices has stemmed from their proximity to direct heat sources. However, the Bowle Series II was purposefully engineered to differ entirely from traditional systems in that regard. Our design intentionally separates all structural materials—like stainless steel, aluminum or food-grade silicone—from high-heat contact points. By the time the aerosol reaches the mouthpiece, it has already passed through a cooled, indirect flow path that ensures it arrives at a safe thermal state, minimizing the potential for material interaction.

If I'm not mistaken, the part of the stem which receives the hottest vapor (directly under the ceramic pot) is made of stainless steel. So by the time the vapor gets to the aluminum it's already partially cooled down. Not to mention the fact that it's anodized so the vapor never comes in contact with "raw" aluminum.